Mafia 39: Back to Gambits - Game over!

[HezLucky]

Good. Care to offer me some sort of justification that I actually have a chance of defending against?

[rolandofthewhite]

I voted for you because I haven't liked the way you've been acting, but I was more suspicious of dybeck earlier. He's claimed something important, so back to my second suspicion.

[HezLucky]

Ah, I understand completely. Is it that hard for you to write that the first time?

Just out of curiousity, who is your third suspicion?

[BabyJesus]

UNVOTE, VOTE HEZLUCKY

wow, talk about defensive about a couple votes

[HezLucky]

Yes, I get defensive. That's not a good reason to vote me.

[BabyJesus]

Yes, I get defensive. That's not a good reason to vote me.

plus all the cool kids are doing it

[Puzzle]

Yes, I get defensive. That's not a good reason to vote me.

plus all the cool kids are doing it

[Thesp]

While I'm not convinced at all that dybeck is telling the truth, it makes him a poor choice for a lynch today.

Unvote: dybeck, Vote: HezLucky

. I think he's scum, too.

[BabyJesus]

While I'm not convinced at all that dybeck is telling the truth, it makes him a poor choice for a lynch today.

Unvote: dybeck, Vote: HezLucky

. I think he's scum, too.

Well, once we have more then 2 dead people, we can easily force him to confirm himself by attempting a resurrection. Not good odds to do it now then, with a 50% chance he'll die

[Save The Dragons]

Good idea Puzzle. Let's make everybody claim, unvote and vote for the next person who you want to claim.

That is the most sensible thing I've seen you say in this thread. Thank you.

I would also like to hear the above explanation.

Oh. You changed your mind.

Just for the record: I don't.
To me a Fos is a completely meaningless gesture. The only value I attach to it is that I think it's more likely that someone 'fossing' someone who is bandwagoned is more likely to be scum with that person.

I agree completely. I was refering strictly to a semantic basis.

Yes, I get defensive. That's not a good reason to vote me.

plus all the cool kids are doing it

Whatup, G?

[vikingfan]

I'm not at all convinced of dybeck's innocence, but odds are, if he's scum, either mafia or werewolves will go after him tonight, so he'll probably be dead in the morning. Given that, if he's revealed as scum tonight, then we'll know the real Sorcerer is alive and well. If not, we know he was probably telling the truth. So

unvote dybeck

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[BabyJesus]

Can we lynch STD?

[jeep]

I'm not up to date on this topic, I just skimmed the last two pages. I'd be upset this game because of stuff I know.

BJ, I'm happy with lynching STD. Oh, yeah, I mentioned that before.

unvote; vote StD

-JEEP

[jeep]

Heh, sorry, I answered a question way out of context... 2 pages too late for that type of response.

That should read: "To answer your question about why I'd be upset if I got lynched in this game... I'd be upset because of stuff I know. "

Sorry all.

-JEEP

[Fuldu]

I'm not at all convinced of dybeck's innocence, but odds are, if he's scum, either mafia or werewolves will go after him tonight, so he'll probably be dead in the morning. Given that, if he's revealed as scum tonight, then we'll know the real Sorcerer is alive and well. If not, we know he was probably telling the truth. So unvote dybeck.

Why will we know that the real Sorcerer is alive and well? If dybeck is revealed as scum, then we'll know he wasn't the Sorcerer, but how does that preclude the possibility that one of the already dead players was the Sorcerer?

And if no one wants to respond to me regarding why the STD bandwagon disappeared, I'm happy to move my vote there.

vote: Save The Dragons

[BabyJesus]

I can happily join this one.....

unvote, VOTE SAVE THE DRAGONS

[Puzzle]

About Dybeck : you all know that the governor can inspect people for protective roles, right ?

[vikingfan]

I'm not at all convinced of dybeck's innocence, but odds are, if he's scum, either mafia or werewolves will go after him tonight, so he'll probably be dead in the morning. Given that, if he's revealed as scum tonight, then we'll know the real Sorcerer is alive and well. If not, we know he was probably telling the truth. So unvote dybeck.

Why will we know that the real Sorcerer is alive and well? If dybeck is revealed as scum, then we'll know he wasn't the Sorcerer, but how does that preclude the possibility that one of the already dead players was the Sorcerer?

I realized that later after the post, but obviously we won't know that. What we will know in that scenario is that dybeck was lying scum and that there's a chance we still have our Sorcerer with us. If he dies and he's not revealed as scum, then it's a good possibility we lost him (though not for sure, he could still be the Judas, Saulus, or Vampire).

This scenario, BTW, is why I'm not trusting dybeck-we've got 9 roles likely to lie about their roles and only 15 roles left, which means a lot of roles will be claimed. Given that, the odds just seem high that we hit the actual Sorcerer, rather than a scum. But since, as outlined before, scum will probably go after him, I'll let him be for now.

And since I still like the STD vote for reasons mentioned earlier, I'll

vote STD

[Enigma91]

First off

unvote: Dybeck

However I'm rather torn between STD and Lucky. STD was wagoned before and, to me at least, gave a passable defense. Lucky however haas been extremly defensive at every turn and began the whole jeep debacle.
I have some reservations about STD but luckies overly defensive stance makes him scummier to me so

vote: Hez lucky

[vikingfan]

The following players haven't posted since July:

big_k: July 26.
MOS: July 19.

Prods, please?

[vikingfan]

That should say, in this thread, since July.

[big_kahunia]

I just read the thread. I have been busy and w/ limited access (v/la thread).
I don't want to lynch dybeck. He hasn't appeared super scummy to me.
My thoughts are few.

I trust Thesp. He's brought up helpful topics to discuss and has tried to be the voice of reason.
I'll reread the past wk of the game and post later.

[Astronaut]

The Sorcerer is a very useful person for town, which is why it makes a ocnvenient claim for scum. Impossible to counter-claim, especially this early.

I'd probably pull the same trick if I'd been scum in dybeck's situation, but since he's now a likely target for the opposing scum group, I'll

unvote: dybeck

[BabyJesus]

First off

unvote: Dybeck

However I'm rather torn between STD and Lucky. STD was wagoned before and, to me at least, gave a passable defense. Lucky however haas been extremly defensive at every turn and began the whole jeep debacle.
I have some reservations about STD but luckies overly defensive stance makes him scummier to me so

vote: Hez lucky

Hmm. So STD is the one being run up, so you express "suspicion" of him, while attempting to derail it for a Hezlucky train....

So if STD is scum we should immediately lynch Enigma91 next...

[Blackberry]

>_< Can we get a vote count, there is sooo many votes, lmao.