Newbie 892 - The Future of Magic. Game Over! Mafia Win

[Yosarian2]

Since easjo has to be scum, there are only two possibilities here.

If Doctor is telling the truth, then LordChronos must be town, so the scum group then has to be (easjo + Ray). In this case, there must be a scum roleblocker.

If Doctor is lying, then the scum group is (easjo+Doctor). In this case, there must be two mafia goons.

Either way, Chronos is 100% confirmed town right now.

Personally, I'm leaning towards the first; I think a easjo+Ray scum group makes the most sense here, especally with the way Ray has been taking easjo's side against me for no apparent reason here. Still, I'd rather lynch easjo today instead of Ray; like I said before, if easjo flips scum roleblocker, it confirms Doctor as town, which means Doctor is confirmed and town wins.

[Yosarian2]

Woohoo, yos2 is cranking up the appeal to fear!

And when, exactally, did I do that?

All I did was correctly point out that we are in lynch or lose right now, and town has to lynch correctly today or town loses.

[easjo682]

and when i flip town? then scum wins and town is outta chances

[LordChronos]

Okay, Doctor, we know that either easjo or Yos are scum. I think we should lynch easjo, based on my previous feelings and the points Yos has made. At this point in the game, I would rather trust Yosarian than the two scummy people attacking him.

[Doctor]

Im inclined to agree with that sentiment, though I was leaning for ray myself.

Is that a good to go *dont wanna jump the gun*

[LordChronos]

Why not, it isn't like we will learn much, since we don't trust Ray and Yos and easjo have already claimed.

Vote: easjo682

[Doctor]

Welp...lets hope to god we are right

Vote: Easjo682

[Haylen]

Sorry in advance about the lack of colour, I'm having trouble with the every code except underline and area today for some reason.

The End

Easjo682: Yosarian2, LordChronos, Doctor

Not Voting: RayFrost, Easjo682

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch

Apparently, just after you discovered who was night killed, you were all hit by a sleep charm (three guesses who ordered that one) and you wake up to find yourselves tied to a table with your necks directly under a guillotine.

The only way out is to shout the magic words. The name of one of the mafia members in your midst. That will kill that mafia member.

Shout the name of a non-mafia member and the whole town dies except for the mafia.

You argue amongst yourselves trying to work out who was a mafia member. Before concluding that it had to be Easjo682.

You hear a swoosh as the blade of her guillotine is let loose and her head is chopped clean off.

It rolls across the floor.

Easjo682 was lynched, she was the Doctor

'Uh oh' A win condition has been met! A second blade crashed down and sliced off the head of...

LordChronos was killed by the mafia, he was a Vanilla Townie.

'Oh crap! It was them all along' Doctor thought as he struggled to get out of his bonds. Unfortunately, it didn't work, if anything he tightened their hold on him.

'If you keep struggling, you'll give yourself rope burn and it'll hurt more.' Yosarian2 spoke to him in that calm, soothing voice of his.

'You're gonna kill me anyway! I should've investigated you when I had the chance!' Doctor yelled back.

'Calm yourself.' RayFrost told him sharply. 'You'll make it worse for yourself.'

'LET ME GO!'

Yosarian2 spoke again 'Quiet, it'll all be over soon.'

RayFrost yelled from the table he was tied to, 'Hey Yos, pity we cant get off these things til the last innocent has died.'

Yosarian2 chuckled. 'And now...we wait.'

Doctor began singing an old nursery rhyme under his breath.

'"Oranges and lemons" say the Bells of St. Clement's
"You owe me five farthings" say the Bells of St. Martin's
"When will you pay me?" say the Bells of Old Bailey
"When I grow rich" say the Bells of Shoreditch
"When will that be?" say the Bells of Stepney
"I do not know" say the Great Bells of Bow
"Here comes a Candle to light you to Bed
Here comes a Chopper to Chop off your Head
Chip chop chip chop - the Last Man's Dead."

He winced and closed his eyes as the said the last four words.

It was the last thing he ever knew.

Doctor was killed by the mafia, he was the Cop

Congratulations! The Mafia have won!

RayFrost, The Mafia Goon was Endgamed Day Three.

Yosarian2, The Mafia Roleblocked was Endgamed Day Three

Thanks all for playing. ^.^ I'll have some notes up in a bit.

[RayFrost]

Yos2 claiming was what won it.

I have to admit that both Yos and myself thought it was an all vanilla game.

The only PR feelings we had were on doc/LC for the cop.

I also admit that I said to lynch Yos because I knew you guys would not listen to me on that.

I was so obv scum at the end that I had to make it seem like I was going for the doc lynch quite blatantly.

I must say, the town did pretty well overall.

Yos can provide more insight than I can.

And woohoo, first mafia win!

[LordChronos]

Really good job Yosarian and RayFrost. If I had gone with my first reaction after Doctor and easjo claimed and gone for the lynch on RayFrost, we might have won. But then he had to go after Yosarian, who played really well and totally fooled me right up to the end.

Who did you guys roleblock, seeing as how you clearly missed the PRs?

[Haylen]

My Primary Notes.

'Nilly's
LordChronos - 'Nilly
The Tracker - 'Nilly
cdubs - 'Nilly
dimaba - 'Nilly
Jackabomb (SE) - 'Nilly

Town PR's
easjo682 - Doc
Doctor - Cop

Mafia
RayFrost (SE) - Mafia Goon
Yosarian2 (IC) - Mafia RB

Night Actions

Night One

Doctor (Cop) Investigates The Tracker.
Easjo682 (Doc) Protects Yosarian2.
Yosarian Roleblocks Easjo682

Night Two

Doctor Investigates LordChronos
Easjo682 Protects Doctor
Yosarian roleblocks LordChronos

[easjo682]

yeah as soon as this day came to start, I realised my gut instinct with Rayfrost was right all along, unfortunately I targeted dimaba instead.
with Yos other than when he voted for me it became obvious once he kept going with 'when easjo flips roleblocker" like he knew there was a roleblocker in the game...


Well it was tons of fun for my first game, I enjoyed playing with all of you and look forward to seing you in another game sometime.

[RayFrost]

If Doc was telling the truth about him being the cop, then there would be a RB, though whether you would flip it or not would be uncertain, so that would've been a decent point.

The problem with the lylo play (lylo is never easy, btw) was you guys went against your gut feelings.

Often enough, your gut will do you better in lylo than your brain.

[Haylen]

Scum happy for me to post the Quicktopic?

This] is the quicktopic for dead players.

[RayFrost]

Boo yah, connection to easjo attempt worked like a charm

feel free to share the scum QT

[Haylen]

http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/TRi79HEHWAgBP <--- Mafia QT.

[Yosarian2]

with Yos other than when he voted for me it became obvious once he kept going with 'when easjo flips roleblocker" like he knew there was a roleblocker in the game...

There would have to be a roleblocker, if The Doctor was telling the truth, and it was pretty clear that he was.

The funny thing was, that very argument that I was making would have 100% lost the game for us if I had been lynched instead of you, since I was the scum roleblocker, and me being lynched would have proved that both Doctor and Chaos were town based on the very logic I had just used.

Anyway, yeah, Ray is right. We got completely blindsided by the role claims. (If you look at the quicktopic, there's a part of it, quite ironic in retrospect, where I talk about how we wouldn't need to either mess around with fake claims or bus. ) Ray actually guessed right and thought that the cop was "either Doctor or Chaos". Probably the biggest mistake we made as a scum team this game was to not try harder to find the town power roles earlier in the game.

This game was a lot of fun. Everyone played really well. That counterclaim I made of easjo was kind of a desperation maneuver at that point; if I didn't do that, I think we would have lost, town had nearly enough information to figure everything out if easjo hadn't been counterclaimed. We got lucky there that we at least killed one of the cop's innocents; if both investigated innocents had still been alive, that might have been the game.

[Yosarian2]

The problem with the lylo play (lylo is never easy, btw) was you guys went against your gut feelings.

Often enough, your gut will do you better in lylo than your brain.

Honestly, plan B there would have been to have to bus you on that day, and then go head to head with easjo in endgame. (either a 3 man endgame, or I might have roleblocked and not killed in order to make it a 4 man endgame.) I think even if you had been lynched there, we still probably would have won, partly because you were doing such a good job of distancing there.

[Haylen]

Anyone have any problems with my modding?
You probably wont find a more unprofessional looking mod on MS than myself. I like to get involved and edit peoples posts at the start of the game with my own messages and make jokes and stuff.

[easjo682]

from quick topic -
[quote=rayfrost] easjo gives me... bad feelings. [/quote]

I've been told that before...

nah, any was that comment because you thought I was PR at that point? or because I was was suspicious of you? or something else?

[RayFrost]

Instinct said something was going to happen and you would be part of it.

I was right on that even if I didn't know what...

[RayFrost]

Anyone have any problems with my modding?
You probably wont find a more unprofessional looking mod on MS than myself. I like to get involved and edit peoples posts at the start of the game with my own messages and make jokes and stuff.

u r teh sux0r

Nah, seriously, good enough job modding.

I'm on meh first modding venture offsite, and I have to say that it isn't pretty (had to give warnings for talking about the game outside the thread... and threaten power+vote removal as well as modkill)

[Yosarian2]

Anyone have any problems with my modding?

Oh, you did fine.

You probably wont find a more unprofessional looking mod on MS than myself. I like to get involved and edit peoples posts at the start of the game with my own messages and make jokes and stuff.

Well, you were careful to not let anything you did influence the game, it looked like, and that's the important thing.

[Haylen]

Write, so we have quite a few improvements to make. ^.^

Number One: Keep an eye out for who's voting who. This helps reduce the risk of accidental hammering.

Number Two: Give players adequate time to defend themselves properly and claim ect.

Number Three: Discuss fully and properly, all of the options before you lynch. This doesn't mean you have to let the game drag on til deadline, that's just boring. And don't muck around and do nothing til deadline either. That lets scum hide.

Number Four: Be active. Inactivity can get a townie lynched. You don't want inactive players in lylo or mylo.

Doctor, don't L-1 a person unless you are sure they are scum. I know your intention wasn't to hammer. But it's best not to put them at L-1 unless you want them lynched just in case you do get a simulposter.

Yos was as scummy as hell during the first day. I'm surprised it wasn't picked up on actually. But then none of you have played with him before. Meta can be a useful tool when used correctly to get a good indication of another's playstyle. (That's when you try to compare someones behaviour in the current game to their previous games)

Will comment more later.

[Yosarian2]

Yos was as scummy as hell during the first day.

You always think I'm scummy.

But then again, yeah, my playstyle this game was pretty direct and straightforward scum play. I would have played differently if I had opponents who had known my meta.