Mini 915 - Murder in Murder Free Village (Over)

[Herodotus]

The "first post of page 6" Vote Count:

danakillsu (5):

Haschel Cedricson, DeeJayCee, Darkstrike_11, Nobody Special, kyle99

Nobody Special (4):

charter, Nicodemus, danakillsu, jbernier

jbernier (2):

Kmd4390, Lastsurvivor

Kmd4390 (1):

My Milked Eek

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting (0):

With

12

players, it takes

7

to lynch or

6

to choose not to lynch.
Deadline is 6:00 AM UTC, Monday, Feb 15. This is in precisely 12 days.

[charter]

Can't say I understand what dana has done that is scummier than NS. Can someone enlighten me please.

[Nicodemus]

Can't say I understand what dana has done that is scummier than NS. Can someone enlighten me please.

He's been an easy target and an easy wagon. 'sbout all.

[kyle99]

Can't say I understand what dana has done that is scummier than NS. Can someone enlighten me please.

I explained in my first post, he kept trying to get out of the discussion phase and go back into the RVS, and he was obviously rolefishing with DJC. He started a BW on him, asked for a claim, got called on it, than tried to go back to the RVS.

[danakillsu]

Alright, just did a quick read, some thoughts as I read so far:

Darkstrike, DeeJayCee, Haschel Cedricson, and Nicodemus are possibly town.

Dana - Why did you want to stick with the RVS for so long? The purpose of this is to start discussion, and there was certaintly plenty of discussion going on. I can't see any reasons why a pro-town player would want to extend the RVS longer than required. You also asked for a claim on DJC WAAAY to early, and you've been generally flip-floppy throughout the game.

Apparently that's all you did. I have already been asked about the RVS thing. I find it suspicious when people want to leave it too soon.

[jbernier93]

I find it suspicious when people want to leave [the RVS] too soon.

That's an illogical suspicion though... and "too soon" differs from person to person and game to game... in a 12p game, most would agree that by mid or end page two the RVS should be over.

[danakillsu]

That's an illogical suspicion though... and "too soon" differs from person to person and game to game... in a 12p game, most would agree that by mid or end page two the RVS should be over.

This was also essentially already stated. Kyle, just read the thread fully.

[Haschel Cedricson]

I explained in my first post, he kept trying to get out of the discussion phase and go back into the RVS, and he was obviously rolefishing with DJC. He started a BW on him, asked for a claim, got called on it, than tried to go back to the RVS.

Exactly what I was going to say.

That's an illogical suspicion though... and "too soon" differs from person to person and game to game... in a 12p game, most would agree that by mid or end page two the RVS should be over.

Also, it's one thing to want to extend the RVS, and another to try to put the horses back in the barn after it's already ended.

[Lastsurvivor]

Gaah, this week has been a bit busy. I'll post some stuff later tonight.

[Nobody Special]

Glad to see some more votes on NS. I'm eagerly awaiting his explanation to why it took him so long to talk about someone, especially since that was the scummiest thing he's ever seen.

Very simple: I had some suspicions, was waiting for other folk to post to get more data (and potentially more/deeper suspicions), and got pressured into talking about my suspicions. You're making more of this than is there.

[kyle99]

Alright guys, I reread and iso'd both NS and Dana, and I'm starting to lean towards a NS lynch as opposed to a Dana lynch.

This was one of the posts by NS that particularly stuck out.

NobodySpecial, what opinions have you formed then? I don't really get how you can have opinions on people but don't find anyone scummy, please explain.

I have some half-formed opinions on some people; I never said I didn't find

anyone

scummy, only that I don't have a

scummiest

player yet.

Honestly, why are you and Kmd trying to misrepresent me so blatantly?

The part where he talks about not having a scummiest player despite having scummy players screams of scum. If you think certain players are scummy, why don't you post those players? We can't read your mind, you know. It sounds like he's trying to avoid making an opinion about anyone.

This post also stuck out:

Yep.

vote:DJC

for three reasons.
1)His vote for Flareonage for self-preservation
2)His nervousness
3)I want to see him claim

This just sticks out as one of the scummiest things I've seen in a mafia game

ever.

1) Those, with the possible exception of the third reason, are all genuine reasons for building up a pressure bandwagon to force out some info.

2) Honestly, the absolute scummiest thing you've EVER seen in a mafia game. EVER?!?!?!

This is good enough reason for me to

unvote, FOS NS

[jbernier93]

Glad to see some more votes on NS. I'm eagerly awaiting his explanation to why it took him so long to talk about someone, especially since that was the scummiest thing he's ever seen.

Very simple: I had some suspicions, was waiting for other folk to post to get more data (and potentially more/deeper suspicions), and got pressured into talking about my suspicions. You're making more of this than is there.

If you have suspicions, you say them, you don't ask other people to contribute and not contribute anything yourself. That's just bad behavior.

[Kmd4390]

I've been prodded. It's almost 1AM and I have class in the morning. Not making any promises, but I'll try to make a post tomorrow.

[Lastsurvivor]

Sorry I didn't get to posting last night...but here I am.

@Nico's post a while back: I see whatcha saying now, thanks.

I'm thinking that NS is just being anti-town versus scummy. Some of the points brought up against him also seem to be just a case of bad wording versus scumslips (the most scummiest thing in a mafia game ever point, for example, just seems to be a badly phrased exaggeration). Is everyone else only voting him for the anti-town aspect?

[My Milked Eek]

It's late and I'm going to Bruges (lol, why?) tomorrow. Expect something in +-24 hours.

[charter]

Yep.

vote:DJC

for three reasons.
1)His vote for Flareonage for self-preservation
2)His nervousness
3)I want to see him claim

There is no single player that stands out (yet) as scummiest to me; that's why I'm not voting. I hope to ferret out some scummitude soonest.

NobodySpecial, what opinions have you formed then? I don't really get how you can have opinions on people but don't find anyone scummy, please explain.

I have some half-formed opinions on some people; I never said I didn't find

anyone

scummy, only that I don't have a

scummiest

player yet.

Yep.

vote:DJC

for three reasons.
1)His vote for Flareonage for self-preservation
2)His nervousness
3)I want to see him claim

This just sticks out as one of the scummiest things I've seen in a mafia game

ever.

This story changing is pretty much a claim of scum from NS. What is the hold up with his lynch? This is a really clear cut scum lynch guys.

[Haschel Cedricson]

I still think it's danakillsu, but rereading NS, I saw

@Danakillsu, aren't you the least bit apprehensive about being modkilled for talking about an ongoing game? Also, you don't seem to be doing any favors for yourself going on about daytalking scum.

Does anybody else see this as potentially coaching a partner?

I'm fine lynching either of the two, and am formally announcing my intent to vote for whichever of the two has more votes.

[Lastsurvivor]

@Charter: It's eleven days until a lynch is required. Why so eager?

[charter]

@Charter: It's eleven days until a lynch is required. Why so eager?

I loathe dragging days out until deadline, doubly so when deadline comes and you wind up having to scramble to lynch. Much better to just lynch the scum as you catch them and not worry about deadlines.

[kyle99]

vote: Nobody Special

I have no worries with putting NS at L2.

[Nicodemus]

@kyle: Why not, exactly?

[kyle99]

@kyle: Why not, exactly?

Sorry, you're going to have to be a bit more specific. Why not what, exactly?

[Nicodemus]

I have no worries with putting NS at L2.

Why not, exactly?

[kyle99]

I have no worries with putting NS at L2.

Why not, exactly?

Oh, lol, sorry. Midnight fails.

I don't really have any worries with putting him at L2 because I think he's a scummy player, which I already outlined my reasons for.

[Nicodemus]

I have no worries with putting NS at L2.

Why not, exactly?

Oh, lol, sorry. Midnight fails.

I don't really have any worries with putting him at L2 because I think he's a scummy player, which I already outlined my reasons for.

So are you saying that you might have some worries with putting him at L-1, or hammering? I don't really see why you felt the need to say that you had no worries voting for him specifically at L-2.