Newbie 906 - Game Over!

[Skill006]

@ Skill006 - Are you as good as James Bond (007) at taking down bad guys?

Nope. I stink at taking down bad guys, even when I know their alignment.

[RayFrost]

Aha, I have been waiting for this!

vote: RayFrost

You asked me a question, if I was town or not, I suppose in a friendly gesture. However, it seemed like the true purpose of your question was to find out if I had a power role or not.

You knew I was cop last game, so I was likely to compare my present role to my previous role. You even went as far as to cover your role fishing with playful joke stuff, so people wouldn't notice.
And you even put that I shouldn't say "I am not cop", to make your intentions less conspicious.

Hahahah.

Problem with your logic, it requires I could read your mind to know you would make that comparison and reaction!

Obviously, you are scum that is stretching to come up with a good reason to vote me off now that I'm town!

You fear my mighty scumhunting!

unvote, vote: skill006

You already said you aren't cop, and I was saying that was a bad idea, so I was, in fact, teaching you from your own mistake!

[RayFrost]

@ Skill006 - Are you as good as James Bond (007) at taking down bad guys?

Nope. I stink at taking down bad guys, even when I know their alignment.

^--- can't make good cases / doesn't know when NOT to counterclaim.

[Kison]

Day One: Vote Count

Skill006 (

1

) : RayFrost
jmurph3 (

1

) : PranaDevil
RayFrost (

1

) : Skill006

Not Voting (

6

) : redbox, Apathy, kelyn, jmurph3, PaltryExcuse, fuzzylightning

With

9

alive, it will take

5

votes to lynch.

The day's deadline is currently set to:

February 24th, 2010, 11:59:59 PM, EDT

[kelyn]

Just found this quote on Ray's Wiki article

he's proven to me that he is among the elite group of players who are a detriment to their own win condition no matter what role they get

@ Skill - Let's hope you are right and Ray really is in the mafia AND that the quote is true. Maybe it will give us townies an advantage. :-p

[RayFrost]

roflcopter has only one completed game of me-town and another of me-sk.

I was too busy to do anything in the me-sk game.

Me-town game had me getting night killed as town and him-scum getting lynched, so yeh. His words make me lol.

And I'm town this game, so yeh.

[RayFrost]

Recently finished me-mafia game

Recently finished me-town game with me dead N1

Recently finished me-town game with me dead the night before lylo

[PranaDevil]

Yeah, but kelyn I'm not about to jump lynch someone because they "might" pose a problem. However he does seem to be switching votes very fast does our Ray. Almost too fast for my liking.

FoS: RayFrost

[RayFrost]

Hyperactivity is a scumtell?

[Skill006]

@ Skill006 - Are you as good as James Bond (007) at taking down bad guys?

Nope. I stink at taking down bad guys, even when I know their alignment.

^--- can't make good cases / doesn't know when NOT to counterclaim.

This is true. Not encouraging, but true XD

[RayFrost]

Eh, I don't know when to counterclaim either.

I can make good cases, though.


sometimes.

[RayFrost]

Yeah, but kelyn I'm not about to jump lynch someone because they "might" pose a problem. However he does seem to be switching votes very fast does our Ray. Almost too fast for my liking.

FoS: RayFrost

Reasoning I'd be scummy from this is as follows.

"Ray is changing votes around very fast."

"This is a sign of anxiety and nervousness."

"Scum would be nervous."

"Ray is scum."

Only problem with this is... I could be doing what I'm doing to cause what I'm causing. /genius

[kelyn]

LoL, my quote was a joke :-p. He has already been helpful in a few ways, pointing some good stuff to read in the Wiki as well as answering my questions.

I won't take some one's word for it that has only played with you twice, nor was it my intention to do so. If you are role aligned with me I will make my own decision (or if you are mafia for that matter).

[RayFrost]

He's got three games if you include an ongoing.

But talking about ongoing games is a taboo thing to do.

[PranaDevil]

It's flip flopping, RVS or not, I don't like flip flopping, and OMGUS votes are also awful, makes me more wary of trusting in the future as you can't stick to something.

Scummy, very scummy.

unvote; vote: RayFrost

[RayFrost]

Sweet, three votes already.

New record.

Anyway, your case is bad in that I'm blatantly OMGUSing, and I know I'm doing it.

But I wanted your case to happen, y'see. ^.^

[RayFrost]

Awww, damn.

Only two votes.

Miscounted.

[PranaDevil]

If you're town... you're behaving really, really erratically, if you're mafia, you're bringing a hell of a lot of attention to yourself.

Confusing the abba out of me I'll say.

[RayFrost]

To quote Zachrulez on my playstyle, a player I've played with multiple times, "you are eccentric and erratic" or something like that

[PaltryExcuse]

@ PaltryExcuse - Do you have any advice for me going into my first game here?

If town: Independent thought is the most important characteristic of town. When someone builds a case, do not take their word as solid gold. Look back at the context of any quotations they give and determine if you believe that it is possible.
Aggressiveness (not patronizing or insulting) is a good quality I believe in townies. Look for contradictions, but more importantly (as RayFrost said) look for

motive

. If you agree with someone's case, don't be afraid to back them.
And especially early on, when we're not even close to a lynch, don't be afraid to vote. A vote will spark a response much more informative than just an FoS. (Obvious exception, we're mylo / lylo, FoS's carry much more weight). Putting someone at L-1, for me, is the same as saying "I'm ok with lynching this person now."
If you're under attack, defend yourself. Don't give up, don't self-vote. (FYI: in my first game, RayFrost replaced someone under major suspicion but fought until his lynch. So good on 'em.) Don't assume your attacker is scum. Weak cases can be built by scum, but motive is much more telling.

If you're scum: Fake the above. Don't be afraid of bussing, but don't be too eager either.

Overall: Have fun, and make sure your fun doesn't hurt others' (no personal attacks). Posting reliable and thoughtful content makes the game more entertaining for all.

---

@kelyn: Who's response were/are you looking forwards to the most?

[jmurph3]

@Kelyn definitely not Mafia I am in fact Carmen Sandiego. And actually, despite trying to be pretty hard to catch, I'd argue that if you paid attention, a 10 year old could (and has in the past) caught me when necessary.

[PranaDevil]

To quote Zachrulez on my playstyle, a player I've played with multiple times, "you are eccentric and erratic" or something like that

I agree with Zach.

Vote stands though.

[RayFrost]

To quote Panacea and WolfRamnHart "you are an awesome scumhunter" or soemthing like that

[RayFrost]

Anyway, I'm going to start calling out scumteams if there isn't a lot of discussion while I'm sleeping (which is about 8.5 hours from now)

[fuzzylightning]

@Kelyn- The main difference between SE and IC is the amount of experience that is required. So mostly an SE is still kinda new to the site and hasn't played as many games as of yet. Outside of that, there isn't too much of a difference between the two.

RF's vote switching isn't necessarily a scum tell right now, but it is possible that it could lead to some interesting discussion later on, so while I am not too concerned about it right now, I will be paying attention to how he votes.

It seems that to this point everyone has gotten an avatar, which makes paying attention to this game that much easier.

Rolefishing=bad, please don't do it. It doesn't help the town at all and gives the scum a lot more information than they need to have.

That is all for now, expect more later