Big Brother Mafia - Town wins!

[Kast]

Enjoy your weekends all.

If Hewitt is nom'ed, consider my vote on him, I'll place it once I get back. Same for BV if Hewitt is not nom'ed.

[pablito]

hewitt - I don't get why you say you didn't get a PM until shortly before eviction. There is a deadline to use POV. And it surely isn't just before eviction deadline. Granted it was for ani - who was clearly goin. But you didn't say a thing even after the fact. I have to wonder if you would hide it.

But this is important because honestly even I forgot who gave me pov (due to the modkills) and thus I need to look at your posts if you were hinting to me to use the pov when llama and me were up (I think so).

[hewitt]

hewitt - I don't get why you say you didn't get a PM until shortly before eviction. There is a deadline to use POV. And it surely isn't just before eviction deadline. Granted it was for ani - who was clearly goin. But you didn't say a thing even after the fact. I have to wonder if you would hide it.

Actually no and I can have farside back me up on this, I wasn't informed that I had the PoV until after animorpherv had garnered enough votes to be evicted.

I'm going out and then when I come back I'll answer Kast, who's about to look like a fool who still proclaiming he didn't lie when he did.

[pablito]

hewitt, fact remains that you were notified before the eviction was finalized. even if the eviction had occurred, at no point even after you got rid of veto did you even mention it. it's a trivial matter overall, but the way you defend yourself right now is just not very pro-town.

[pablito]

I'm tired and I'm going to bed. When I wake up, I'll post nominations.

[farside22]

nom's do today!

[pablito]

nominate: bv and hewitt

[Kmd4390]

@Kmd - How is hewitt confirmed?

He's non-producer because Llama made him HoH. He's non-chen because he evicted Sly. Only possibility left is town.

Yes. Because I'm clearly a Chenbot.

Can I counterclaim this?

nominate: bv and hewitt

I know I've been quick to vote all game, but this is ugly. I may need a day or two to think it over. I think I might end up voting Hewitt, but I'm really not sure.

[farside22]

The keys are given.
Bv and Hewitt you have been nominated for eviction. You folks have 7 days to cast your vote on which of the 2 you wish to evict.

[pablito]

Kmd - voting Sly was clearly not a non-chenbot move.

Votes went bam bam bam bam bam for Sly, Sir hammers then the last four went to save Sly. I think that it was in best interest for chenbots to both bus sly. Considering that Sir did not even think twice about putting the hammer...I would like to think that the last chenbot had voted before sir had even voted.

[Kmd4390]

Ok.

Vote Hewitt

[farside22]

vote count:

bv310 (0)
hewitt (1) kmd

not voting:
crazy
Kast

[Kmd4390]

Hmm. Vote Count says Crazy is voteless?

fixed

[pablito]

kmd - so that was a quick turnaround on the vote in the end...we have plenty of time, what made the vote?

[Kmd4390]

kmd - so that was a quick turnaround on the vote in the end...we have plenty of time, what made the vote?

I thought about it and didn't feel like anything would make me vote BV.

[Crazy]

He's non-producer because Llama made him HoH.

He's non-chen because he evicted Sly. Only possibility left is town.

The former isn't true. If Llama hadn't made hewitt HoH, then Kast would have nominated hewitt for sure. Probably against you, for an easy eviction. Llama almost

had to

make hewitt HoH if they were scum together.

Now the thing is, you say bv and hewitt are confirmed. I disagree with you about hewitt, so that makes me more wary about how "confirmed" bv is.

Can you put a percentage of how "confirmed" hewitt is compared to how "confirmed" bv is?

[Kmd4390]

Putting a percentage on things like that is a bad idea. You, for example, in the same spot with the same opinion may use a different number than I would. Let me just say this though. If BV isn't town, I will be completely shocked. If Hewitt flips scum, it will be more "ok, I was wrong. whatever". A BV scumflip would be a huge WTF moment for me.

[bv310]

It's just like Day 1 again. :

[Crazy]

Putting a percentage on things like that is a bad idea. You, for example, in the same spot with the same opinion may use a different number than I would. Let me just say this though. If BV isn't town, I will be completely shocked. If Hewitt flips scum, it will be more "ok, I was wrong. whatever". A BV scumflip would be a huge WTF moment for me.

Okay, cool.

Vote: hewitt

[pablito]

On my choice by the way. I personally think there's fewer choices for producers left. Well maybe not to you guys, but to me there is. And I put up my two top suspects for being producer. If I could cut a producer:

a) I can help out until the end as I'm not seen as a chenbot if hewitt flips producer.
b) I can narrow down the possibilities for producers once I get up and out if hewitt doesn't flip producer.

I really think hewitt's producer though. looking at everything now.

Crazy, your vote was more symbolic since we already clearly know who kast is voting. What do you think of that in terms of timing and all?

[Crazy]

Crazy, your vote was more symbolic since we already clearly know who kast is voting. What do you think of that in terms of timing and all?

I don't think I exactly know what you mean.

I figured I would probably vote hewitt over anyone except for Kast; I just wanted to make sure how certain Kmd was about bv.

[pablito]

Well just saying that Kmd had already voted hewitt, and we know kast would vote hewitt. So your vote isn't really necessary on hewitt or bv as we know hewitt will be lynched - but yet you still seemed to do your own investigation. Not saying bad or good on it, just interesting of note.

Also just in terms of cutting timelines, your vote could've been extended and delayed so that we had more time to think things through. But as it is now, next hoh will be crowned within days now. Just wondering what your thoughts are on that process.

I think a lot of people forget that timing of votes is an important part of the process as well - not just who they vote. with unretractable votes, timing is of the utmost difference - like in sironigous' vote for sly.

[Crazy]

Well just saying that Kmd had already voted hewitt, and we know kast would vote hewitt. So your vote isn't really necessary on hewitt or bv as we know hewitt will be lynched - but yet you still seemed to do your own investigation. Not saying bad or good on it, just interesting of note.

I feel like arguing this, but there's no point. You could have easily said I was an obvious vote for hewitt and Kast's vote really didn't matter. Or really, that all 3 of us were obvious votes for hewitt so none of our votes really mattered!

The only reason I asked Kmd that question about the relation between hewitt and bv before I voted is because I wanted him to answer before hewitt flipped. I probably would have voted hewitt regardless of what Kmd said, since I still am unaware of the outside game with saber.

Also just in terms of cutting timelines, your vote could've been extended and delayed so that we had more time to think things through. But as it is now, next hoh will be crowned within days now. Just wondering what your thoughts are on that process.

That didn't cross my mind, because it's really up to Kast how long he wants the vote to last, but I don't really like to drag things out too much, anyway. Especially now, when there's really not a whole lot I feel like doing before I see hewitt's flip.

I think a lot of people forget that timing of votes is an important part of the process as well - not just who they vote. with unretractable votes, timing is of the utmost difference - like in sironigous' vote for sly.

Is your point that Sir's "quickhammer" made it look too much like a bus? Do you think I'm bussing hewitt?

You already said that my vote didn't matter at all. Why should it matter how I

time

my vote that doesn't matter at all?

[pablito]

Honestly, I'm asking these questions just to see how you'd respond, not necessarily because I believe any of it has significance.

I'm glad you see it as frivolous as it really is.

[hewitt]

Haha okay well I'm screwed so evict Kast and then Kmd in that order (if necessary) and the floaters have won. Congrats kiddos.