Mini 915 - Murder in Murder Free Village (Over)

[jbernier93]

Well, my understanding is that one shouldn't claim unless asked. (I'll have to look into where I got that notion.)

I'm a Town Neighbor. I have a neighbor with whom I can talk at any time (yeah, day or night....cool!).

Is your neighbor's alignment guaranteed?

I've always been under the impression that masons = guaranteed, neighbors != guaranteed... although maybe my impressions are unsatisfactorily incorrect.

Kmd4390 - town. but i miss the gay men kissing

Who are you?

Old old old player... under a new account because I did some really stupid crap (nothing like purposefully destroying a game, just generally stupidity) in my last couple games... my only memorable game I was in with you, I was a tracker I believe... but that a was a long time ago, and there's a reason I made a new account...

[Kmd4390]

Did I bus the hell out of you in a game once?

Oh, and masons USUALLY are confirmed alignment. Neighbors aren't. If it says mason or neighbor and doesn't specify "you do/don't know each other's alignment", it's a good idea to ask the Mod.

[jbernier93]

Did I bus the hell out of you in a game once?

Oh, and masons USUALLY are confirmed alignment. Neighbors aren't. If it says mason or neighbor and doesn't specify "you do/don't know each other's alignment", it's a good idea to ask the Mod.

I don't recall being in a game where we were both mafia.

[Kmd4390]

Ok. You aren't who I thought you were then. *Shrug*

[charter]

Buried under snow, post later if we keep power and dig out..

[Herodotus]

vikingfan replaces DeeJayCee.

[vikingfan]

unvote

to start with.

After looking at the game, dana's call for me (or vf version 1.0) to claim on page TWO seems off, as does the backtracking afterward. Long days usually benefit town so it seems to me like it's trying to speed the day along unnecessarily. We still have a number of days left (and even more when that post was made. No need to speed things up unnecessarily.

However, the single most scummy thing I've seen so far is this:

Well, my understanding is that one shouldn't claim unless asked. (I'll have to look into where I got that notion.)

I'm a Town Neighbor. I have a neighbor with whom I can talk at any time (yeah, day or night....cool!).

Alright, that's an odd claim. Nobody should hammer yet.

Who is your Neighbor?

This just smells to me like a scum trying to draw out as much town information as possible. On Day 1, especially, we want to keep as much town information in the dark as possible. Getting his neighbor's identity will not help us much. For this, I'm going to

vote kyle

[Lastsurvivor]

@viking: He realized that it wouldn't be a good idea around three minutes later. It's weird, I suppose, but it's pretty null to me.

[Nicodemus]

kmd seems to be playing to his town meta from what I can tell.

You...know my town meta?

I've read a couple of your games before (specifically /in-vitational 4) and you pushed like hell on a player early over a "slip" that you found, and you were town.

[vikingfan]

Yes, I know, LS, but it just seemed like someone backtracking after the fact. Sort of like, 'hey, let's get as much info as possible' then realizing a few minutes later, 'wait, I'm painting a big bullseye on myself, so I'm going to backtrack and hope I can pass it off.'

[charter]

@Charter: Where did I say I don't like dragging days out? What I meant in post 158 was "I don't want to put us really close to the deadline, but I think you shouldn't be so eager to lynch."

It sounded like you don't like dragging days out when you said "Well of course I don't want to drag it out until the day before the deadline.".

@Charter: I never bothered to unvote.

So do you think he's scum still or what? Who's your top suspect?

Neighbor claim, don't care who his neighbor is, and not unvoting.

@kmd, fair enough, it seems like you did fairly similar in that game and he was scum, so I'll retract my FOS and consider your case. However, nervousness or not, no one is within a mile of how scummy NS is.

I don't think kyle's asking who the neighbor is is scummy. I do think it's pointless since the neighbors could both be town, one scum/one town, or both scum, and we have no way of knowing.

[Lastsurvivor]

@Viking: So you think it's because of the backtracking? Why didn't you say that earlier?

@Charter: I'm going to be doing a reread tomorrow, but I don't exactly like dana on the top of my head, for reasons that people have stated before.

[My Milked Eek]

Sweet, a neighbor claim. Usually, when there are neighbors, one is scum.

I'm tempted to hammer, but will let everyone weigh in first.

I'd rather not have you hammer him on the idea that "usually one neighbor is scum", but more on the grounds of his scumminess. I'm not sure about the context of this post/quote, but I'll think about it later and decide what it is after I've (re)read the thread.

Also a semi-v/la until Tuesday: I forgot I had a school seminar to attend to right now.

[Kmd4390]

I've read a couple of your games before (specifically /in-vitational 4) and you pushed like hell on a player early over a "slip" that you found, and you were town.

Wait, I went after someone on a slip? Damn, I usually don't do that. *Shrug*

I'm tempted to hammer, but will let everyone weigh in first.

I'd rather not have you hammer him on the idea that "usually one neighbor is scum", but more on the grounds of his scumminess. I'm not sure about the context of this post/quote, but I'll think about it later and decide what it is after I've (re)read the thread.
[/quote]

Oh, no, I agree that he's scummy. And that would be why I lynch him. I'm saying that the claim is far from being a reason to stop this lynch because there's a pretty good chance he's a scum neighbor.

[danakillsu]

No need to speed things up unnecessarily.

I don't think that my asking for a claim could be seen as an attempt to hurry things along. Why? Because even when NS claimed, it didn't speed things up at all. A whole page later and we haven't really gotten any closer to the end of the day. I think NS is lying. It's half-gut, half the idea that maybe he did it because of what I said:

Also agreed, although I don't think we'll glean much from a claim.

[Nicodemus]

No need to speed things up unnecessarily.

I don't think that my asking for a claim could be seen as an attempt to hurry things along. Why? Because even when NS claimed, it didn't speed things up at all.

Do you always employ such shoddy reasoning? Just because someone has claimed now after a solid case has been put forward on him does not mean that you are cleared for asking for a claim on page 2. Trying to force a claim when we are just coming out of the RVS (and half of the votes on the player in question are random votes) =/= a claim when a player is at L-1 due to scummy actions, and it's silly of you to suggest such a thing.

[danakillsu]

Do you always employ such shoddy reasoning? Just because someone has claimed now after a solid case has been put forward on him does not mean that you are cleared for asking for a claim on page 2. Trying to force a claim when we are just coming out of the RVS (and half of the votes on the player in question are random votes) =/= a claim when a player is at L-1 due to scummy actions, and it's silly of you to suggest such a thing.
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No, do you? This has nothing to do with what I said. Absolutely nothing. I'm saying that my asking for a claim was not an attempt to hurry things along, not that it wasn't a dumb thing to do. And my using of the recent claim is just an example, not a justification. Do you understand what I'm saying now?

[Herodotus]

Vote Count:

Nobody Special (6):

charter, Nicodemus, danakillsu, jbernier, kyle99, Haschel Cedricson

jbernier (2):

Kmd4390, Lastsurvivor

danakillsu (2):

Darkstrike_11, Nobody Special

Kmd4390 (1):

My Milked Eek

kyle99 (1):

vikingfan

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting (0):

With

12

players, it takes

7

to lynch or

6

to choose not to lynch.
Deadline is 6:00 AM UTC, Monday, Feb 15. Darkstrike_11 is being prodded.

[Darkstrike_11]

I'm picking up the prod

I will get a bigger post off soon, still need to read the thread, am crazy busy. All will be sorted by tonight, if it isnt then replace me

[charter]

~5 days until deadline. It's looking like LS is NS's buddy with how he's been harping about using the time we have until deadline, but not doing any such thing. It looks like a big distraction away from NS.

I think someone needs to hammer before NS manages to slip away.

[danakillsu]

I think someone needs to hammer before NS manages to slip away.

Yeah, and that's looking like it's going to happen. Come on people. He's lurking the heck outta this game.

[jbernier93]

I second the above two posts. Unfortunately, I can't hammer myself. D:

[Kmd4390]

Unvote, Vote NS

[Herodotus]

Final Vote Count for Day 1:

Nobody Special (7):

charter, Nicodemus, danakillsu, jbernier, kyle99, Haschel Cedricson, Kmd4390

danakillsu (2):

Darkstrike_11, Nobody Special

jbernier (1):

Lastsurvivor

Kmd4390 (1):

My Milked Eek

kyle99 (1):

vikingfan

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting (0):

danakillsu

: "You know, I'm not sure whether anyone is scum."

vikingfan

: "In that case, whom should we lynch?"

kyle99

: "Meh. Nobody special."
charter, Nicodemus, danakillsu, jbernier, kyle99, and Haschel Cedricson: "Hey! Good idea!" "Let's do it!" "Grab him." "I'll tie him up!"
Nobody Special: "But, I'm very neighborly, and I love this town!"
Kmd4390: "You might be neighborly, but you sure are scummy."

Nobody Special passes away at the hands of the town. After burying his body, you go to his home to investigate further. On his floor is an enormous phone bill -- it's seems he's been making frequent calls during the past few weeks. You also find old copies of

The Daily Townie

.

Nobody Special,

Townie Neighbor

, was lynched on Day 1.

It is now Night 1. Please send any choices to me within 72 hours of this post. Deadline is Saturday at 4:45 AM UTC.

[Herodotus]

horrordude0215 replaces Darkstrike_11.