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Yeah, if he doesn't post or isn't replaced by tomorrow, I'll have my vote on him...
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Shrine, you're breaking up. You must be going through a tunnel.Shrinehme wrote:
What is your definition of "long enough"?The Tracker, 151 wrote:I think the day lasted long enough
Flareonage's last post before this one was post 138 (Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:36 pm). 20 posts before his!The Tracker, 158 (Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:08 pm) wrote:Flareon has been lurking
Just 20 posts [and a little less than 2 days] before yours, and you consider itlurking?
Would like to hear opinions on The Tracker.
When the day starts to stagnate, then it's lasted long enough. No point drawing it out.
Maybe I should have been more precise, he wasactivelurking. Okay, that takes care of the peanut gallery. I gotta read through this again. Working all weekend sucks...In the grand scheme of things, wins and losses are pointless. But I'm not the grand scheme, so die scum!
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The only reason I can guess is as followed:yawetag wrote:This would be my case on SK being scummy.
SaintKerrigan wrote:For that matter, why is Flareonage at L-1? (The latter question is directed at the people who are currently voting Flareonage.)SaintKerrigan wrote:I know you think he's scum. My question is meant to make you think why he is scum. Tracker's answer is the correct kind of answer I'm looking for. I want to know why it is you're voting Flareonage. By the way, Dana, what isyourcase against Flareonage?
I'm not yet sold on the idea that Flareonage is scum.
In each quote above, SK is questioning cases against flare, even when his questions were easily answered in previous posts. Instead of trying to seem like he's getting information, he should have been reading previous posts. His constant line of questions tells me he's trying to defend the person, but it's hard to do that when you're simply asking everyone to re-hash previous information.SaintKerrigan wrote:
How is he pretending he was confused?danakillsu wrote:Flareonage is scum because he fail-flailed, pretended he was confused, and is now lurking. What more do you need?
I am suspicious of the flailing and the lurking, though.
1. I think he thought that you were taking too big of a risk voting Flareonage so quickly (only 7 pages I believe: They usually go 20-30 pages) without much of a confirmed scumtell (if you relook at it, it could just be noobish play, which I can confirm is his meta). I for one would have voted for him after reading through the thread...he was either REALLY bad and noobish town or scum...With posts like this...
Flareonage saysim confusedI thought you thought I was scummy cuz you thought I was trying to defend Dana?
On the 2nd and 3rd posts, he was pushing for more info for a Flareonage lynch...he obviously wasn't convinced...but I can confirm to you that I am not Flareonage's scumbuddy, but it is rather difficult for me to defend my replacement...hope I've satisfied youxRECKONERx wrote:
Guys, seriously, why the fook is everyone ignoring Flareonage
they are all scum?ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Read the ruleset, guys. No one will be replaced because they're inactive, and if the Day ends before mavsfan gets a post in [and I don't think he has yet; correct me if I'm wrong], then he's modkilled and out of our hair anyway. We don't have to worry about him unless hedoespost, in which case I'm all for a lurker-lynch wagon.-
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Thanks for the heads upShrinehme wrote:Read the ruleset, guys. No one will be replaced because they're inactive, and if the Day ends before mavsfan gets a post in [and I don't think he has yet; correct me if I'm wrong], then he's modkilled and out of our hair anyway. We don't have to worry about him unless hedoespost, in which case I'm all for a lurker-lynch wagon.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Replaced Saint KerriganShrinehme wrote:
... That makes sense.The Tracker wrote:When the day starts to stagnate, then it's lasted long enough. No point drawing it out.
Maybe I should have been more precise, he wasactivelurking.
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Err. Wait, who is Cry Me A River? And whom is s/he replacing?ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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And this is the reason we only have two choices today:Shrinehme wrote:Read the ruleset, guys. No one will be replaced because they're inactive, and if the Day ends before mavsfan gets a post in [and I don't think he has yet; correct me if I'm wrong], then he's modkilled and out of our hair anyway. We don't have to worry about him unless hedoespost, in which case I'm all for a lurker-lynch wagon.
1. Lynch mavsfan
2. No lynch
If we don't lynch mavs and we mislynch, that puts us at four. If maf and werewolves hit townies, we lose.
Posts like this crawl at me. First off, it's in the first post and it's in each votecount the mod is posting. Secondly, there has been enough discussion about CMaR having to defend SK's actions that it should have been obvious.Shrinehme wrote:Err. Wait, who is Cry Me A River? And whom is s/he replacing?
On a sidenote: I've found it VERY helpful to turn on "Always show First Post on every Topic Page:" in my Profile. When it's on, the first post is at the top of every page, no matter how many pages deep you've gone. In Mafia, it allows you to see the votecount and status of the game without having to go back to the first page."In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies." --Winston Churchill
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Thanks...didn't even know that setting was there!yawetag wrote:
And this is the reason we only have two choices today:Shrinehme wrote:Read the ruleset, guys. No one will be replaced because they're inactive, and if the Day ends before mavsfan gets a post in [and I don't think he has yet; correct me if I'm wrong], then he's modkilled and out of our hair anyway. We don't have to worry about him unless hedoespost, in which case I'm all for a lurker-lynch wagon.
1. Lynch mavsfan
2. No lynch
If we don't lynch mavs and we mislynch, that puts us at four. If maf and werewolves hit townies, we lose.
Posts like this crawl at me. First off, it's in the first post and it's in each votecount the mod is posting. Secondly, there has been enough discussion about CMaR having to defend SK's actions that it should have been obvious.Shrinehme wrote:Err. Wait, who is Cry Me A River? And whom is s/he replacing?
On a sidenote: I've found it VERY helpful to turn on "Always show First Post on every Topic Page:" in my Profile. When it's on, the first post is at the top of every page, no matter how many pages deep you've gone. In Mafia, it allows you to see the votecount and status of the game without having to go back to the first page.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
"postgame i'm going to pee on you gandalf
pee on you" - Chesskid
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... I swear it wasn't in the OP yesterday, when I'd checked [and forgotten to mention in my post then, so I did today...].yawetag wrote:
Posts like this crawl at me. First off, it's in the first post and it's in each votecount the mod is posting. Secondly, there has been enough discussion about CMaR having to defend SK's actions that it should have been obvious.Shrinehme wrote:Err. Wait, who is Cry Me A River? And whom is s/he replacing?
It was more of a rhetorical/double-checking question, since I didn't see [missed?] any mention of his replacement, didn't see him mentioned in the OP, and didn't think there were any replacements in this game...
It was a silly question though.
I'm not sure about your analysis of the setup and possible early win for scum, though. Don't the factions have to completely eradicate each other in order to win, as well?-
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You can only bus one person in this setup.xRECKONERx wrote:Lynch mavsfan please."In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies." --Winston Churchill
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xRECKONERx GD is my Best Man
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Why would he get modkilled?
unvote; vote: CryMeARiver
WHAT NOW SON
In all seriousness, though, with only two masons left, everyone should post the name of the person they trust the most. That way if one of the masons gets NK'd, we can clear the last mason without any pesty counterclaim problems.green shirt thursdays-
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Read the thread.Why would he get modkilled?
I trust Cat the most. But I'm not sure everyone else should say who they really trust the most. If the two masons each say each other, the mafia will know who to lynch, right?Read the ruleset, guys. No one will be replaced because they're inactive, and if the Day ends before mavsfan gets a post in [and I don't think he has yet; correct me if I'm wrong], then he's modkilled and out of our hair anyway. We don't have to worry about him unless he does post, in which case I'm all for a lurker-lynch wagon.-
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Fatewasmy number one person to trust after reading through the thread
Among the living, I trust Rex, though its a weird trust because he's definitely not off my scum list, and evilsnail seems trustworthy as he is always pointing out flaws in what people say and actively scum hunting (but wouldn't scum do that too?) I also surprisingly trust dana know that he pointed out the flaw in my argument...
Anything else I need to explain about SK's behavior?ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Don't act so fast on this trust issue. As I think about it, it's not a good idea. Nothing good can come out of it. As I see it, listing two people removes the chance of the town knowing the third Mason if the second is killed.
It's really easy to explain. Simply put:
Masons will list their partner, as well as a random third person. A Mason kill at night, or even a Mason lynch, will cause a counter-claim between the two "trusted" players -- especially if one of them is non-town. So, this puts us in the same situation we're already in. Our position would be no better than it is now. Neither of the "trusted" players can be fully trusted, and the town will be forced to lynch one of them.
Who wants to be in that type of situation? I think it's better for the Masons to leave breadcrumbs and keep from fighting with their partner so it's easier for the town to clear the third. This way, the scum can't use any information that's given so blatantly, such as a list. Hopefully, the town can find the clues without tipping the scum.
My list will be kept personal unless the group thinks it's a better idea. Everyone should then participate, though, and ones that don't give a list should be looked at very closely."In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies." --Winston Churchill
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