Gah. Zoraster is still alive in this scenario. Zoraster needs to be thrown into the big scary glowing fire column thingy.Nikanor wrote:*Sigh* Okay. Jazz+SC purge. Now everyone will be happy (except Jazz and SC, who will be dead(?)).Zito wrote:This kinda sucks. Zoraster + (Porkens/Jazzmyn) FTW.
Jazz has played differently from the posts you mentioned. Her reasons seem to be partially real life issues and partially meta, which is something you could comment on and say is valid or not.Nikanor wrote:Should I?
Do you think SC is scum? Your Rhinox case is ok.Nikanor wrote:Okay, Rhinox and SC then. ^5 compromise!
Are you still pondering this? Do you think it's a good idea? When?SerialClergyman wrote:I don't know what to do about Sotty's claim. It has me pondering a massclaim.
You looked at the SC case I take it? What did you think?MO wrote:Zoraster + SC?
Actually, no. (I don't check the V/LA thread, ftr.)Jahudo 376 wrote:@Mod: Did you know zoraster went on V/LA?
Pretty close to the right idea, flavorwise.VP Baltar 378 wrote:It's not dangling Spy, he'll explode into a million molecules of light.
I laughed.VP Baltar 378 wrote:which is a bithohum
I claimed because I was sitting on this tool that could save me and I wasn't sure what to do with it. If I just used the double vote then it would have caused a little ruckus and probably made me look worse. So I decided to claim my extra vote and let everyone chime in on what I should do with it. If the majority of the thread still wanted me lynched then I guess I would have to eat it.SerialClergyman Post 379 wrote:Sotty - what was the reason you claimed to have a double vote?
Ironically, part of the reason I voted her was for meta. In the two games I've played with her where she was town, never did she post this much fluff in her posts. Although maybe I should read the entire thread to make sure it's a trend all the way through.Jahudo wrote:Jazz has played differently from the posts you mentioned. Her reasons seem to be partially real life issues and partially meta, which is something you could comment on and say is valid or not.
I don't particularly think SC is scum, but enough people think (or 'think') SC is scum to get decent reads from a SC lynch.Jahudo wrote:Do you think SC is scum? Your Rhinox case is ok.
Jahudo wrote:I don't want to purge zoraster for lurking/being inactive. But I do want to purge zoraster.
Explain. If your reasons for wanting to purge him were not based on his inactivity, then why does his having an excuse for his inactivity make you lose interest in purging him?Jahudo wrote:@Mod: Did you know zoraster went on V/LA?
This has me losing interest in a day 1 zoraster purge.
He never showed up to try and defend the reason I found him scummy. I asked questions in post 275 that would help me affirm my incantation.Herodotus wrote:Jahudo wrote:I don't want to purge zoraster for lurking/being inactive. But I do want to purge zoraster.Explain. If your reasons for wanting to purge him were not based on his inactivity, then why does his having an excuse for his inactivity make you lose interest in purging him?Jahudo wrote:@Mod: Did you know zoraster went on V/LA?
This has me losing interest in a day 1 zoraster purge.
Also, is VP scum?
???Jahudo wrote:Are you still pondering this? Do you think it's a good idea? When?SerialClergyman wrote:I don't know what to do about Sotty's claim. It has me pondering a massclaim.
(I 100% disagree with this idea unless we feel we're in lylo/mylo)
He seemed to really trust a single scum read by page 4 of this game.SC wrote:I'm very vocal about town reads and trust them more strongly than my scum reads. I even spent a period of games where all I did on D1 was look for townies and was prepared to lynch anyone who I couldn't directly state was town.
And he hasn't acted like he's prepared to purge anyone he hasn't directed stated was town.SC wrote:Honestly guys, this case is making itself. The only reason I'm still typing is because I'm trying to break this keyboard before the warranty is due. There should be no need for any further action except incanting Sotty.
Hasn't said zoraster is town, just that he doesn't like the lurker case on him. Seems like he's neutral on Nikanor. Hasn't commented anything about Hero, MO or Rhinox.SC wrote:If I had to guess right now, I'd say Jahudo was scum due to dodgy votes, Jazzmyn was scum due to suspicious posting patterns and fluff and I'm not sure about the third. Could be you or porkens.
How important is finding scum pairings in your reads today? Isn't it possible for two people to be scummy and in different factions?Rhinox wrote:@porkens: why so apathetic? do you really think all 3 of sotty, SC, and zor are scum together? because I just can't see sotty and SC being scum together.
Rhinox wrote:As if on cue. Now it really does look like you're intentionally lurking. You don't post for a week, but miraculously show up as soon as you're suspected for lurking? suspicious...
How can you find him suspicious but seem he's town? Do you think he's went back to intentionally lurking? What do you think of his posts 177, 217, 218, 220, and 223? Do those seem townish?Rhinox wrote:I don't support any plan that includes lynching Zor today. He's seeming town.
How can this displease you if you think it's important to withhold your town reads? It took you 5 posts to suspect someone other than porkens.Rhinox wrote:@Nacho: I'm displeased with your entrance to the game. No thoughts on other players besides Zor? Is MO your scum partner?
Meh, I'm not really looking for pairings today, and I don't think about multiple factions until there is evidence that supports it. I don't think SC and sotty can BOTH be on the same faction though. If we're talking multiple factions, I suppose they could be on different mafia teams, but I doubt one would be an sk - I think if there is an sk, it would be porkens.How important is finding scum pairings in your reads today? Isn't it possible for two people to be scummy and in different factions?
The first quote of mine was when I didn't realize he was prodded. His posts led me to the conclusion in the second quote of mine because he was being active, and I only suspected him before for possibly lurking. Looking back now I see that the only scum hunting zor has done was his 6 points in his iso3. Everything else has pretty much been game theory. I'm suspicious of his V/LA, if he is indeed V/LA, only because he's modding a large parallel universe game at the moment, and he's active in his modding duties over there. So I guess I wouldn't feel bad about seeing him purged today, but I feel porkens or nacho are scummier.And what is your actually take on zoraster?
I didn't like that Nacho's first post in the game was basically a "me too" hop on to one of the popular bandwagons. It would have been different if he contibuted something new. When I questioned him about it, instead of responding to the point I made, he ignored it and instead attacked my activity. Thats about the scummiest individual comment I've seen so far in the game.How can this displease you if you think it's important to withhold your town reads? It took you 5 posts to suspect someone other than porkens.
My vote is on porkens, so that is your answer. Overall, I don't like porkens' apathy and willingness to lynch anybody without really giving reasons. nikanor is an improvement over nacho in terms of activity, and at least seems to be scum hunting. What I don't like is his appeal to his scum hunting history in order to support his cases, i.e. "I've only ever called people scum like this 4 other times and they were scum then so they're scum now". If his cases were strong, he wouldn't need his scum hunting history to support them. Its not enough for me to want to see him purged though - I'd rather let nacho return so I can actually get some answers to the questions I asked.Rhinox, at this moment which purge you do prefer: porkens or nikanor?
He seemed to really trust a single scum read by page 4 of this game.SC wrote:I'm very vocal about town reads and trust them more strongly than my scum reads.I even spent a period of gameswhere all I did on D1 was look for townies and was prepared to lynch anyone who I couldn't directly state was town.
I don't get this. If I haven't mentioned someone it's because I don't have a read on them. When I've thought people are town or scum I've provided reasons - if you're missing some just ask.Hasn't said zoraster is town, just that he doesn't like the lurker case on him. Seems like he's neutral on Nikanor. Hasn't commented anything about Hero, MO or Rhinox.
So what are you hiding, SC? Your reasons for thinking some people are town, or your meta?
I felt the way he suggested massclaim this early could be a reporter play. But he didn't push the idea, even after Hero started thinking massclaim too.Jahudo wrote:I've got bad vibes on SC, but not for his take on me. He's now made tells that make sense as 2 different third-party factions. I'm waiting to see if the second one develops.
But reporter talk is just theory. It's more practical to think of the potential power roles that would be outed by massclaim. I think scum could have town-sounding power roles like cop or doc in this game, given the SK and other anti-town faction possibilities, so mass claim does not sound like a good idea.Herodotus wrote:There are several people who I'm pretty confident are not scum, and I feel that setting ourselves up to purge all but a handful of townies would force the scum to scramble to avoid having all their members purged.
Jahudo wrote:Herodotus wrote:Also, is VP scum?
This. Really read this. Then, lynch Rhinox.Rhinox wrote:My vote is on porkens, so that is your answer. Overall, I don't like porkens' apathy and willingness to lynch anybody without really giving reasons. nikanor is an improvement over nacho in terms of activity, and at least seems to be scum hunting. What I don't like is his appeal to his scum hunting history in order to support his cases, i.e. "I've only ever called people scum like this 4 other times and they were scum then so they're scum now". If his cases were strong, he wouldn't need his scum hunting history to support them. Its not enough for me to want to see him purged though - I'd rather let nacho return so I can actually get some answers to the questions I asked.