Last Will Mafia (Over)

Netopalis · Post Post #225 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:34 pm

Nevermind. This is obviously going nowhere.

RayFrost · Post Post #226 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:19 pm

My day kill wasn't serious, guys.

I was just annoyed by tate's ageism ~.~

srsly, though...

I don't want to be elected.

STOP ELECTING ME. CEASE AND DESIST.

I'm serious about this. I am not joking. I

do not

want to be elected.

The blow out between neto and gayle is ridiculous and annoying.

You both disagree with each other about Yos2, that's well and grand. But do you need to have a multi-page argument about it?

The1fifi · Post Post #227 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:19 pm

V/LA

for 2 days

Netopalis · Post Post #228 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:19 pm

How do you recommend we settle this, then, Ray? It seems that we are at an impasse.

LlamaFluff · Post Post #229 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:42 pm

Election Count

Yosarian2 (8) - dramonic, Netopalis, pwnman, Netlava, The1fifi, Dr Pepper, animorpherv1, TheLonging
RayFrost (6) - DocPotter, Gayle, Elscouta, ortolan, Yosarian2, tatetothetot
tatetothetot (2) - ZEEnon, hp [leaves]
hp [leaves] (2) - raider8169, Archon Kamigawa
Gayle (1) - RayFrost

Not Voting (4) - vikingfan, Socrates, Bogre, danakillsu, CryMeARiver

tatetothetot · Post Post #230 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:44 pm

Nothing needs to be settled. It appears that Yos will be elected, much to my disappointment.

Netopalis · Post Post #231 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:45 pm

Yes, something needs to be settled! Clearly you and others have an intense and serious misgiving about one of our most trusted players, yet you're not giving anything more than vague notions of him seeming creepy or disingenuous. This is relevant.

tatetothetot · Post Post #232 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:53 pm

We are not voting for a lynch, we are voting to elect a mayor. I want someone who has no dirt on him which would be Rayfrost for the moment. My reasons had nothing to do with with him being creepy. So for now, nothing needs to be settled expect to vote for our double voter. Can people who are voting me switch their vote to Rayfrost?

RayFrost · Post Post #233 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:55 pm

After tate's voters switch to me, would you be kind enough to then switch to gayle?

I

really

don't want this double voting power.

1. cuz I'll probably do very poorly with it

2. cuz I'll probably do very poorly with it

3. I'll PROBABLY SCREW UP WITH IT.

That clear enough reasons to vote not-me?

seriously.

Netopalis · Post Post #234 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:56 pm

Tate: What dirt, specifically, do you feel is on Yosarian?

RayFrost · Post Post #235 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:56 pm

Hell, I'd prefer even crymeariver to get the double vote, and I have very little confidence in his ability as town.

tatetothetot · Post Post #236 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:03 pm

Dirt meaning some people have a bad feeling about voting for him where as no one has a bad feeling about voting Rayfrost (except Rayfrost).

Listen to me Ray, I want you to think about this for a second. Being a double voter does not mean that we entrust you with a huge responsibility, only that we consider you town and town is who we want to have an extra vote. You can not fail any more with this then with your own vote.

RayFrost · Post Post #237 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:05 pm

tatetothetot wrote:Dirt meaning some people have a bad feeling about voting for him where as no one has a bad feeling about voting Rayfrost (except Rayfrost).

Listen to me Ray, I want you to think about this for a second. Being a double voter does not mean that we entrust you with a huge responsibility, only that we consider you town and town is who we want to have an extra vote. You can not fail any more with this then with your own vote.

Yeah, and it means that I decide who the triple voter is, since I'm most likely to die.

~.~

Thanks for helping my confidence in this.

Netopalis · Post Post #238 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:06 pm

*shrugs* Ray's "DON'T VOTE FOR ME" could also be the classic Perot maneuver - most people feel that people who want to be elected shouldn't, and will therefore vote for someone who asks to not be voted for.

And the "dirt" you mention is only a barely cognizable and ephemeral distrust from you and Gayle, hardly enough for us to base a decision on.

DocPotter · Post Post #239 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:07 pm

Impeach RayFrost

Oh wait, that's a bit premature.

Unvote RF, Vote Orto

RayFrost · Post Post #240 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:08 pm

Netopalis wrote:*shrugs* Ray's "DON'T VOTE FOR ME" could also be the classic Perot maneuver - most people feel that people who want to be elected shouldn't, and will therefore vote for someone who asks to not be voted for.

And the "dirt" you mention is only a barely cognizable and ephemeral distrust from you and Gayle, hardly enough for us to base a decision on.

Perot?

wut?

Also, I seriously don't want to be voted for. I'm not trying to convince you to vote elsewhere. I

really

don't like the idea of being elected as any kind of thing whatsoever.

I'm against being elected. At all. At any point in time.

RayFrost · Post Post #241 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:08 pm

DocPotter wrote:
Impeach RayFrost

Oh wait, that's a bit premature.

Unvote RF, Vote Orto

thank you, annachie. have a cookie. ~.~

Netopalis · Post Post #242 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:09 pm

Sorry, just googled. It was actually William T. Sherman that said it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shermanesque_statement - Essentially, they often have the opposite of the intended effect.

RayFrost · Post Post #243 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:11 pm

Then I should be imploring that you guys elect me for you guys to not do so?

Netopalis · Post Post #244 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:11 pm

Probably, based on everybody's reaction to Yosarian.

DocPotter · Post Post #245 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:12 pm

Vote early, vote often

RayFrost · Post Post #246 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:12 pm

Okay.

I command all of you to elect me, for I am obviously the person that you all consider to be obv town.

You should obviously give somebody you think is town the vote, therefore, giving me the double vote is absolutely optimal play here.

Elect me, and I shall lead you all to victory!

Netopalis · Post Post #247 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:14 pm

Only problem is, you're now doing it because you don't want people to elect you. To win the game, you need to be 1 step ahead of what everybody's thinking, which is reverting back to telling them not to vote for you. But since I said that, you need to tell them to vote for you to deal with the effects of this statement. Of course, I just said that too. Welcome to WIFOM.

RayFrost · Post Post #248 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:15 pm

Netopalis wrote:Only problem is, you're now doing it because you don't want people to elect you. To win the game, you need to be 1 step ahead of what everybody's thinking, which is reverting back to telling them not to vote for you. But since I said that, you need to tell them to vote for you to deal with the effects of this statement. Of course, I just said that too. Welcome to WIFOM.

srsly, though...

Can we just like... not elect me?

If you guys trust me as town so much, then elect gayle.

I have a town-read on gayle, you guys have a town-read on me.

So you should elect who I think is most likely town because I'll just self-destruct if I get the double voter position.

tatetothetot · Post Post #249 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:16 pm

Netopalis wrote: And the "dirt" you mention is only a barely cognizable and ephemeral distrust from you and Gayle, hardly enough for us to base a decision on.

Netopalis wrote:Probably, based on everybody's reaction to Yosarian.

So are you saying only Gayle and I are against Yos getting the double vote? Or are there others?

I will admit Yos is a good player... it has been the topic of discussion for part of the game so far. This is why I do not want him to be elected the double voter. Why can't we just pick a solid town person who everyone likes as town instead of the person who seems to be the most logical?