Mini 914 ~ Mafia Reverberation (Game Over!)

[Mighty Orbots]

@SpyreX, I was wondering if anyone would ask about my other ability. I couldn't tell you why it's taken that long for anyone to even acknowledge it.

Of the two it would be more useful to use today while the double vote if anything gains in power if it's saved. If I weren't a prime lynch candidate I wouldn't have brought up either one but as I said, it was important to let people know what the situation was.

If people would like I could fully claim. I'd rather not unless we're pretty sure that I'm the purge but if we are then I don't have any huge reason to hold back anymore.

I'll also note that the trouble with potentially purging Sotty7 is the same as the trouble with potentially purging me if anything fancy needs to be arranged. I do like your vote on her more than your vote on yourself though.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[SpyreX]

Well, since its just you and I and everyone else has slacked off lets talk about that fullclaim.

(At this point between the two of you if I could arrange it I'd rather see Sotty go butttt).

[SpyreX]

My self-vote was just a placeholder FYI. I may be warming up to you but my vote there let you hammer with both votes.

[Gammagooey]

Sotty is pretty bleh at the beginning of this and I was pretty suprised when her claim got so many of her votes off, especially with an unproven ability. I got SpyreX's reason for unvoting her down but everyone else's reasonings for hopping off that wagon would be appreciated.

SpyreX is town.

(At this point between the two of you if I could arrange it I'd rather see Sotty go butttt).

SUDDENLY,

Incant:Sotty

[SpyreX]

Thats all awesome and all BUT want to weigh in on anything else goin on?

[Mighty Orbots]

@SpyreX, fair enough. I've got a one shot telepathy ability. The plan was to use it during twilight today. If I'm alive and haven't used my double vote I still will. Actually if I want to look for a silver lining in some ways it's nice that I'm a pretty poor target for night kills from the scum just now as that means that outing my half of the potential neighbor pair doesn't damage it too much.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[SerialClergyman]

Shit.

Spyrex, I've just woken up after a night shift of captioning the Olympics and apparantly the deadline is now. Tell me where to put my vote and i will.

[SerialClergyman]

incant porkens

for now

[Mighty Orbots]

@SpyreX, and about the self vote, I clearly do understand the implications of double voters having had to think about them both from my own point of view as well as from others. My whole point was that a better placeholder spot for your vote was on no purge. It can't do any unintentional damage there. From here on out that should be the default placeholder for everyone.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[SpyreX]

Hmm...

Maybe its just me but I'm not all that stoked about it.

Personally, I'd rather you use the DV on Sotty and make it a tri-lynch.

Of course, if Sotty is telling the truth about the DV AND is scum I think we're in a boat of boned at the moment.

[Mighty Orbots]

Well, as I've said, a triple purge just isn't safe. If it's going to hit scum then they just purge someone who isn't scum instead. It's worse with a double voter. For what it matters I would rather have Sotty7 lynched than myself but not to to degree that I'd prefer Rhinox.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Gammagooey]

Thats all awesome and all BUT want to weigh in on anything else goin on?

I suppose.

Rhino should still die, lynching on scumminess>lynching on a claim, and how many times have mafia claimed a survivor like role because durr WIFOM why would maf claim a survivor like role? (answer:quite a few times)

The thing with MO being willing to single hammer Rhino is a bit scummy, but I like Sotty lyanch better than him mostly on gut from Sotty's early posts.


Telepathy doesn't seem that useful but claiming two provable abilities strengthens the chances of him being town in my mind.

[SpyreX]

SC you may be my bro but as is apparent in the last few pages giving me your vote is like giving a blind man the wheel - it may be hilarious, but its going to end badly and we all know it.

@Zor:

The issue with No Purge is that with this GLUT of doublevoters in a situation as silly as you AND sotty being scum my vote would be enough to let you jerks nolynch the day away.

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I have a feeling deep in my belly we've got at least one person actively not talking. If we had search up I think there's a scum there.

And, AND, just to be awesomer right before deadline I still have an itch about Hero that I'd like scratched.

[Mighty Orbots]

And to be clear, you're not stoked about the telepathy ability or something else?

My point with it isn't that it's something super powerful, it's not. Rather it's more powerful if it's used early in the game than late in the game. It's something that gets used day one to set up a neighbor pair starting day two whereas the double vote is something that's used when a lynch is important (and the important lynches are more likely to happen towards the end of the game.)

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Mighty Orbots]

@SpyreX, the no purge can only happen with the threshhold has dropped to zero. If no purge has enough incants to get to the proper intensity then the threshold just starts dropping at a rate of one per day rather than one per three days (I'd need to go back and confirm I've got all the details there right but that's about it.) There's not really any danger at all of a no purge so it makes a safer placeholder.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[SpyreX]

I was hoping it'd be something far more awesome than the telepathy (especially since it is so easily neutered since you have to be part of it).

You're right about the DV versus the telepathy as a function of time though.

[SpyreX]

And Zor you are right about the No Purge.

Stupid "rules" and "reading them".

I'm really good at that in case you hadn't noticed FYI.

[SpyreX]

Yea, lets make Sotty / Rhinox happen.

[SerialClergyman]

Well, as I've said, a triple purge just isn't safe. If it's going to hit scum then they just purge someone who isn't scum instead. It's worse with a double voter.

Wait, what? How doesn't this apply to a double voter? And if they do purge someone who isn't scum, then we'll only have one lynched person and we have 1 guraunteed scum...

[Mighty Orbots]

@SpyreX, it'd be surprising if I had something strong in addition to double voting. Well, that or the game would be even more high-powered than it seems to be from my perspective. It's already the strongest set of powers that I've seen anyone claim so far.

But of course I didn't distribute these things so what do I know.

As for making Sotty7 and Rhinox happen how exactly do you plan to do that? I don't oppose those two purges but I don't think you can force it to happen if they don't agree.

Well, unless my double vote can be cast at the same time as my normal one for a double hammer but I'd rather not do that.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[SerialClergyman]

I like 'Scent Of A Woman' and all, but what makes this particular blind driver vote sotty?

[SpyreX]

I cast both of mine in the same post, MO.

SC, if you can give another rationale versus "something truly fishy" about:

1.) The three doublevoters
2.) Agreeing with me about "power levels" and then saying "that didn't mean not one-shot"
3.) The large and copious amounts of activity.

I'll take it from any comers.

[VP Baltar]

Orbots is causing me to have misgivings on this page. I may be willing to go back to a SC/Rhinox purge. I don't think Sotty is viable or even a good decision at this point.

Spy, Orbots, what say you?

[Mighty Orbots]

@SerialClergyman, if Sotty7 is scum and I'm wrong and Rhinox is town then there's no reason for her not to use her vote and her double vote to lynch the two of us today. It is true that you get her tomorrow but it should be strictly better from her point of view than her getting purged at the same time.

Or if you don't like the Mighty Orbots-centric version you can exchange my position with Sotty7's for the same danger from the point of view of others.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[SpyreX]

SC/Gamma/SpyreX/SpyreX - Sotty
Nacho/Hero/MO/MO - Rhinox

Is the only way with all the activity we have in this window we could do it I think