You are!Amished wrote:VP, your logic fails as there's been two games that we've both been town. You know which ones they are.
I said we're either both town or you're scum (LOST). More Amished votes NAO!
not true.semioldguy wrote: If we are waiting until later to reveal things like this it would be much easier for the scum to get around in their own claims.
Noise, action and insanity claims in the first game led to an overwhelming town victory. What better alternative do you suggest? A hardline stance against claims providing a tracking system for the town seems a little anti-town to me.Adel wrote:I'm not claiming day 2.
Can you explain your strategy and why we should do it? I think most people are still open to looking at other startegies, so you don't need to assume that we're sheep and don't care what anyone has to say.Adel wrote:fuck it, I'll play it your way, the cult is already down with it so the rest of us sheeple should go along with it.
i heard a noise, and I think it is retarded to be claiming, and people shouldn't be saying if they warded or not, but I didn't ward.
Without any attempt to explain why or what specifically is bad about claiming noises, I don't know how you would expect me to agree or ever be swayed to your side.Adel wrote:not true.semioldguy wrote: If we are waiting until later to reveal things like this it would be much easier for the scum to get around in their own claims.
with 2 or 3 nights worth of interaction, especially if town players focus more on investigation than ward and resurrect, the scum wont be able to figure out what they can get away with claiming as easily.
I think the point is that dram either rolled cult -or- he rolled investigator who will choose to become a murderer. Why are you not thinking about the scenario where dramonic rolled cultist?slysly wrote:I think the dramonic wagon, though understandable, is a bit premature. No one is a murderer yet, but there are scum already. We should be trying to lynch scum, not a later potential 3rd party.
The only reasons I have seen associated with a vote on dramonic, and I may have missed one, are ones of the basis that he is a big fan of being a 3rd party, was one in the last game, and would most likely try to be one in this game. I would gladly support his lynch if it was based on evidence of him being scum. I have not seen any of that offered up yet, feel free.elvis_knits wrote: I think the point is that dram either rolled cult -or- he rolled investigator who will choose to become a murderer. Why are you not thinking about the scenario where dramonic rolled cultist?
wait, so if a cultist chooses "ritual" or "murder" and then chooses "launder" on the next night, shesemioldguy wrote:Additionally, as this mistake was made last game, players should probably not use the investigate action tonight. As the action order is the same as it was in the previous game, players do not get bloody on any night from murders or the ritual until after investigation are resolved for that same night.
Actions dealing with blood take place in the following order:
Launder (removes blood)
Resuscitate or be resuscitated successfully (become bloody)
Investigate (find blood)
Murder (become bloody)
Ritual Resolves (become bloody)
You cannot find any murderers or players who participated in the ritual as bloody on either night zero or night one.
Investigation is like the war on drugs, a majority of the time it doesn't really do much of anything (since whoever gets bloody from doing something bad can always launder before they can next be investigated) but it's still necessary to do as to keep the killing people in check forcing them to launder.
I actually agree with slysly. The meta on Dramonic does make it likely that he would choose a third party route. So the wagon is justifiable- but it's still speculation... he could not have gone third party. I don't see where slysly said he wasn't cultist- there's just no evidence to substantiate that.elvis_knits wrote:I think the point is that dram either rolled cult -or- he rolled investigator who will choose to become a murderer. Why are you not thinking about the scenario where dramonic rolled cultist?slysly wrote:I think the dramonic wagon, though understandable, is a bit premature. No one is a murderer yet, but there are scum already. We should be trying to lynch scum, not a later potential 3rd party.
vote slysly
Please enlighten me as to what your intentions are with this vote.Amished wrote:Vote: Dramonic
Seems like the best reason to vote for somebody so far.
Is this vote based on the above logic?Faraday wrote:Maybe he assumes we'll think he'd not be that foolish and thus do it again!
Vote DramonicI think claiming each day may be of benefit. I think the part about players not being around if we claim it later is somewhat valid, definitely.
lolWickedestjr wrote:Vote: AdelIt seems odd to me that you are making such a big deal about us claiming, yet didn't start trying to change people's minds until many players had already claimed.