Stars Aligned II - Game Over!

[vikingfan]

Something I just noted from the OP that may change our warding decisions.

Those who Ward AUTOMATICALLY hear noise, no matter what else happens.

[SlySly]

If he is covering up a future insanity, that could be validated if someone has Occult Books and used them on Ani.

On Night 0?

No, N1. If the OB user has 0 insanity, as should be the case right now, and Ani is lying, the results would be negative as Ani would have 0 insanity as well.

Effect: You learn whether your target has (strictly) more

Insanities

than you.

[semioldguy]

If he is covering up a future insanity, that could be validated if someone has Occult Books and used them on Ani.

On Night 0?

They would use their books tonight, since insanity gained from the ritual happens after Research (or whatever the name for using occult books has changed to this game).

LOL@ Chaco

[animorpherv1]

I give up. I stalked Adel.

Reasoning:

Adel is a good player -> What if he's cult -> If he is we're all screwed.

[Chaco]

Yeah, Sly and Semi have the right idea on using the occult books.

[semioldguy]

Something I just noted from the OP that may change our warding decisions.

Those who Ward AUTOMATICALLY hear noise, no matter what else happens.

This is the same as the previous game.

[Chaco]

I give up. I stalked Adel.

Reasoning:

Adel is a good player -> What if he's cult -> If he is we're all screwed.

Liars Get Lynched?

Semi, thoughts? Since I know we're about to butt head on this.

[Seacore]

Can somebody who has time edit our ward/noise list to show those who heard noise but did not ward?

[iLord]

I find three unlikely, as potential murderers would not want to draw this sort of attention to themselves. Four is unlikely because I can't imagine that cult wouldn't discuss each of their night actions prior to doing them.

Would 1 not be just as unlikely as 4, considering the excuse that Ani used?

I've seen Day 1 scum do stupid claims before.

Cults of Darkness and Shadow anybody? One scum came out and invented a role even though it was a semi-open set up with all roles detailed.

Did the scum have nighttalk before Day 1?

[Chaco]

Can somebody who has time edit our ward/noise list to show those who heard noise but did not ward?

Yeah, I'll do it in a few moments. Give me time to get settled, I just got home. I got to fill in my spread anyways.

[Seacore]

I find three unlikely, as potential murderers would not want to draw this sort of attention to themselves. Four is unlikely because I can't imagine that cult wouldn't discuss each of their night actions prior to doing them.

Would 1 not be just as unlikely as 4, considering the excuse that Ani used?

I've seen Day 1 scum do stupid claims before.

Cults of Darkness and Shadow anybody? One scum came out and invented a role even though it was a semi-open set up with all roles detailed.

Did the scum have nighttalk before Day 1?

Yes, the scum did have nighttalk

You can't underestimate poor action choice, and other scum overlooking their decision making capabilities.

[Ellibereth]

6 pages already? Ugh.
Reading.

[Iecerint]

Stalk is not the same as Track AFAIK. The only reason to Stalk someone is if you want to kill them the following night.

[iLord]

No, N1. If the OB user has 0 insanity, as should be the case right now, and Ani is lying, the results would be negative as Ani would have 0 insanity as well

Ah okay, I thought Commune happened after Insanity gained from Ritual.

I give up. I stalked Adel.

Reasoning:

Adel is a good player -> What if he's cult -> If he is we're all screwed.

Such poor reasoning, although scumAni would've had to have similarly poor reasoning to attempt to pull this in the first place.

Needless to say, this is just as difficult to believe. What happened to helping the town through passivity? Why would you hide the fact that you stalked?

[Adel]

I give up. I stalked Adel.

Reasoning:

Adel is a good player -> What if he's cult -> If he is we're all screwed.

vote:animorpherv1

[SlySly]

I give up. I stalked Adel.

Reasoning:

Adel is a good player -> What if he's cult -> If he is we're all screwed.

As I stated before, I would rather lynch scum than a later potential murderer. Ani is not a murderer yet and may not become one. Ani voters, start scum hunting.

[iLord]

Damn, you guys type too fast.

Yes, the scum did have nighttalk

You can't underestimate poor action choice, and other scum overlooking their decision making capabilities.

Obviously I'm not well acquainted with that level of scum ineptitude. Regardless, what are your thoughts on having Ani be the Grave Robber and garner insanities versus another sane townie?

[Ellibereth]

Why are people claiming noises and wards on the first page?

[Adel]

Adel, why do claims benefit cult?

1. they have daytalk
2. they have players from the last Sars game
3. they are prepared, and thay can collaberate and adjust to our tactics

our best case of disrupting them is if we make a bunch of claims (like 3 nights worth) at one time, and it is too complex for them to figure out in time during a massclaim.

[semioldguy]

@Chaco (and animorpherz1 too I guess)
That explanation makes a lot more sense than laundering (but only because any explanation would make more sense than laundering). If he did stalk, then he MUST be town currently. I am still not certain of his honesty now though.

[startransmission]

I give up. I stalked Adel.

Reasoning:

Adel is a good player -> What if he's cult -> If he is we're all screwed.

Wow. I can't argue with that logic.

[iLord]

As I stated before, I would rather lynch scum than a later potential murderer. Ani is not a murderer yet and may not become one. Ani voters, start scum hunting.

You believe him?

[animorpherv1]

I was expecting that from Adel, I guess I sort of deserve it as well.

@iLord:

I thought it was helping,although it wasn't as passive as I wanted, by getting rid of what I thought would be a big threat if he's cult. I hid it because of that I was afraid what was going to happen (what happened to me when I hid it up).

[Iecerint]

NB: The probability that Ani is cult is quite low. The probability that she intends to be a murderer, however, is a relatively large number.

[Chaco]

@Chaco (and animorpherz1 too I guess)
That explanation makes a lot more sense than laundering (but only because any explanation would make more sense than laundering). If he did stalk, then he MUST be town currently. I am still not certain of his honesty now though.

Obviously, yeah. Laundering would be stupid. So, if Adel gets killed, kill Ani? But for today leave him alone?