Stars Aligned II - Game Over!

VP Baltar · Post Post #500 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:54 pm

Unvote, Vote: Iecerint

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #501 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:54 pm

Could Chaco be lying? Warding Dram seems weird, ESPECIALLY with the reasons he gives.

Chaco · Post Post #502 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:55 pm

elvis_knits wrote:
Chaco wrote:
elvis_knits wrote:If people read the other game and noticed dram failed and that all the murderers had a hard time, why would they even try to become murderers?
I doubt people read it really, so I expected some to target Dram. Simple as that.
I don't get why you thought he would be a likely target though. For murderers? For cult?

Murder-Vig.

It's Dramonic, everyone suspects Dramonic in a game like this as third party. I can see him getting wrongfully vigged in the beginning, so I warded him.

elvis_knits · Post Post #503 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:57 pm

ATTENTION EVERYONE:

murder =/= vig

Iecerint · Post Post #504 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:57 pm

Ell's idea seems fine. I think Adel wanted to randomize it because the background probability of the plan being net pro-town was high, whereas making a list like that could potentially allowed skilled scum to subvert group membership.

Chaco · Post Post #505 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:01 pm

elvis_knits wrote:ATTENTION EVERYONE:

murder =/= vig

I'm said murder-vig, because there is no real vig in this game. It is treated as a murder, so yes...murder=vig.

Iecerint · Post Post #506 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:04 pm

"Murder" =/= vig
"murder" = vig

Investigators can murder. Murderers can, too.

Chaco · Post Post #507 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:15 pm

Mhm, you can murder without becoming a murderer. All lies in insanity.

SlySly · Post Post #508 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:17 pm

elvis_knits wrote: I also want to say that I really dislike Sly's discussion of "vigs" throughout the thread. Nobody should be taking insanities and taking the path of MURDERERS in an effort to "vig" for the town. If you want someone dead that bad, let's lynch them.

You know no one ever agrees with my lynch targets!!! EVER!!!

Rest easy, I did not Stalk on N0 and have no intention of doing so on N1.

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iLord wrote: Eh, let me revise my question. Do you believe that Ani is logical enough to listen to what the town says?

Logic aside, I think ani knows that any renegade activity from him going forward will result in his lynch. The recent ani/saber bet debacle has given me a certain opinion of him. I don't see why he wasn't banned along with saber, but I am in no way pushing that issue and have no personal problem with ani.

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Iecerint wrote: Investigators can murder. Murderers can, too.

True that, but no murderers exist, yet.

Phate · Post Post #509 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:19 pm

DGB, I would like to know whether you still feel that SlySly is scum in light of the fact that he calling for modkills on two townies.

Iecerint · Post Post #510 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:22 pm

Ya, I was explaining why Chaco's identification of "murder" (lowercase "m") with "vig" is not inappropriate.

Chaco · Post Post #511 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:23 pm

DrippingGoofball wrote:Could Chaco be lying? Warding Dram seems weird, ESPECIALLY with the reasons he gives.

Why? And what reason would I have to lie? It's easy to check, someone can use Occult Books on me. I welcome it.

elvis_knits · Post Post #512 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:25 pm

Seriously though, if anyone commits a murder, I will lynch you.

SlySly · Post Post #513 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:25 pm

Phate wrote:DGB, I would like to know whether you still feel that SlySly is
scum
town in light of the fact that he calling for modkills on two
townies
confirmed, arrogant rule ignorers.

Fixed.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #514 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:27 pm

Phate wrote:DGB, I would like to know whether you still feel that SlySly is scum in light of the fact that he calling for modkills on two townies.

Read his sig. He's town.

Ellibereth · Post Post #515 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:29 pm

Can anybody who feels like it mention their 12 picks for town?
I still think my idea would work.

Drench · Post Post #516 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:32 pm

VP Baltar wrote:
Unvote, Vote: Iecerint

explainez vous?

Ellibereth wrote:CRAZY IDEA THAT NOONE SHOULD TAKE SERIOUSLY BUT I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT.
This is also probably flawed as hell, but whatever:
We somehow come together with a list of 12 peoples not counting Ani that are "town", and we run Adel's killing plan with the town reads killing off everyone else.
If I'm being an idiot, ignore this post.

i don't see what's changed enough for the opposers (myself included) to support this

on slysly - sit on uncle drenchy's lap, everyone, and listen to my story

this. is. not. a. scumtell.

we are basing the fact that sly is scum because he requested it on information that is /not even known/. how can you say someone's scum just because he requested modkills on players who 'might be town'? not to mention that they were actually breaking the rules. and probability says that there's a good chance they're both town anyway.

so yeah

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #517 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:33 pm

Chaco wrote:It's Dramonic, everyone suspects Dramonic in a game like this as third party. I can see him getting wrongfully vigged in the beginning, so I warded him.

Question is, how would you know he'd be WRONGLY vig'ed? How would you know that he won't play the third party card again? Personally, I'd be more than happy to let him hang, unless, of course, he was my buddy.

It's absurd, therefore, it's not true, or at the very least, anti-town.

Chaco · Post Post #518 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:34 pm

elvis_knits wrote:Seriously though, if anyone commits a murder, I will lynch you.

If anyone commits a murder? How flawed is your logic? I could ONLY kill Dramonic. Have someone use occult books, and stop being impulsive.

HoS

Impulsion will get you no where in this game.

Chaco · Post Post #519 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:34 pm

DrippingGoofball wrote:
Chaco wrote:It's Dramonic, everyone suspects Dramonic in a game like this as third party. I can see him getting wrongfully vigged in the beginning, so I warded him.
Question is, how would you know he'd be WRONGLY vig'ed? How would you know that he won't play the third party card again? Personally, I'd be more than happy to let him hang, unless, of course, he was my buddy.

It's absurd, therefore, it's not true, or at the very least, anti-town.

A matter of opinion, you argue as if our opinions are the same. You can prove I'm not lying. How is it anti-town?

Logic here is severely flawed.

Ellibereth · Post Post #520 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:35 pm

Drench wrote:
Ellibereth wrote:CRAZY IDEA THAT NOONE SHOULD TAKE SERIOUSLY BUT I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT.
This is also probably flawed as hell, but whatever:
We somehow come together with a list of 12 peoples not counting Ani that are "town", and we run Adel's killing plan with the town reads killing off everyone else.
If I'm being an idiot, ignore this post.

i don't see what's changed enough for the opposers (myself included) to support this
/quote]

No random generator thing, it probably increases odds of town winning even more than Adel's assuming town is able to pick out who other town are.
All it's doing is regulating night actions, there's no force breaking of insanities or stuff like that.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #521 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:35 pm

Chaco wrote:Logic here is severely flawed.

Splain how dis so.

Chaco · Post Post #522 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:38 pm

Your assuming, with only meta behind. And Elvis wants to lynch

me

is

anyone

gets murdered. That add up in the slightest? If it does, by all means, please let me know. I wanna be the first.

Phate · Post Post #523 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:39 pm

Drench wrote:
VP Baltar wrote:
Unvote, Vote: Iecerint
explainez vous?

Ellibereth wrote:CRAZY IDEA THAT NOONE SHOULD TAKE SERIOUSLY BUT I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT.
This is also probably flawed as hell, but whatever:
We somehow come together with a list of 12 peoples not counting Ani that are "town", and we run Adel's killing plan with the town reads killing off everyone else.
If I'm being an idiot, ignore this post.
i don't see what's changed enough for the opposers (myself included) to support this

on slysly - sit on uncle drenchy's lap, everyone, and listen to my story

this. is. not. a. scumtell.

we are basing the fact that sly is scum because he requested it on information that is /not even known/. how can you say someone's scum just because he requested modkills on players who 'might be town'? not to mention that they were actually breaking the rules. and probability says that there's a good chance they're both town anyway.

so yeah

Actually, no. I put up with this from SlySly because he appears to be retarded and he's probably scum, but you don't get to repeat what he says as though it's truth. I challenge you to find where I broke a rule. Take it to PM if you like - point out one single instance of where I discussed this game outside of this game. Until that, you don't get to call me a rulebreaker.

SlySly · Post Post #524 (ISO) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:39 pm

Wickedestjr wrote:
SlySly wrote:Just calling it like I see it. Only other people besides Adel who have registered on my scumdar are the possible Dramonic slip, Elliberth, and DGB. DGB only because of inactivity. I'm sure she will resurface soon and alleviate my concern of the lurk in classic DGB fashion.
You call not posting for a few hours lurking?

It's DGB, come on!! She's usually the most active player in the game right off the get go!!! I was basing it on pages more than hours. Anyway, DGB has returned and my lurk concerns about her no longer exist.