Mini 904 - Narnia: LWW Mafia (Game Over)

[kikuchiyo]

Tell me how creating a "lynch pool" based on claims, and wanting to lynch Edmund based on the role, is any different from the people who want to lynch Wolf based on his role.

Not sure what you mean here. The lynch pool isn't based solely on the claims. All players in the pool have been under suspicion at some time. If anything, I find HH's claim the most suspect, but his play has been less scummy than the others. Narninian claimed Edmund. He has been under suspicion as well. We can use the claims to help us figure things out, but lynching based solely on the claims would be poor form. I'd rather not rush to lynch today as a mislynch puts us into a lylo most likely.

Also, I don't see how RBT revealing anything else is helpful to the town.

I do. Very much so.

[HackerHuck]

There's really no harm in RBT dying with his knowledge. He apparently knows enough that he believes Papa Zito to be town, so putting that information out there really won't benefit us unless you really think that he's not interpreting his information correctly.

If RBT is scum, we could possibly catch him if his information doesn't match up with Papa Zito, but that's the only benefit I see from pressing for that info.

I will ask one question of Riceball-
Without stating specifically what the role is, do you think that it's possible his role could be on that scum would have?

The more I think about this, the more I believe Riceball's claim. Unless he and Papa Zito orchestrated today's claim manoeuvering, his defence of Papa Zito earlier today seems genuine.

Unvote: RiceBallTail

[Papa Zito]

[Not sure what you mean here. The lynch pool isn't based solely on the claims. All players in the pool have been under suspicion at some time.

I don't follow. You and I have been under suspicion. Manho was nearly lynched. Why aren't we in the lynch pool?

We can use the claims to help us figure things out, but lynching based solely on the claims would be poor form. I'd rather not rush to lynch today as a mislynch puts us into a lylo most likely.

Is "incredibly scummy" just your meta or something?

I do. Very much so.

Explain then.

[Narninian]

Revealing the 'full' info would prove (to papa zito at least) that riceballtail has the role he says he does, or at least guessed correctly.

the elephant of in the room is that Lucy recieved 2 gifts from father christmas - a dagger and a magic vial that restores health. This, I'm sure, is known to everyone.
If she has a power role (which Im sure of) that means she most likely she is the doctor or vigilante based on those gifts. I don't think its really to our advantage to have that be known to us (and therefore scum) today.

[kikuchiyo]

I don't follow. You and I have been under suspicion. Manho was nearly lynched. Why aren't we in the lynch pool?

Do you want to be lynched? I don't. Therefore I am not going to put myself into the lynch pool. I don't think you are scum. therefore I am not going to put you into the lynch pool. Would you like me to put you into the lynch pool?

Is "incredibly scummy" just your meta or something?

I have been told that. Why do you think I am scummy? I am just trying to figure out who the scum is. I need more information to do that.

I do. Very much so.

Explain then.

I would rather not have to. i.e. I do not want to full claim at this time. I would rather that RBT give us his information. He was at L-1. A full claim with results could help town. It may help scum, but I think it is worth the risk. By him putting his info into the thread, you should be able to then determine if he is telling the truth. All he has done so far is say your name after you said your name. He does not need to be a rolecop to get that right. He also said you are town. He also does not have to be a rolecop to get that right. But whatever, if you think we should just lynch Wolf and move on, then so be it. I am not going to fight you on this.

[manho]

we didn't hear from RBT for some time. i think we should wait for RBT first, before lynching anyone.

[Riceballtail]

I think Wolf should be the lynch today. His claim seems to be the weakest. Tonight's investigation should help some too.

[Kdub]

Vote Count

Riceballtail (2)

- kikuchiyo, wolframnhart

pwnman (0)

-

kikuchiyo (0)

-

HackerHuck (0)

-

Papa Zito (0)

-

wolframnhart (4)

- Riceballtail, Papa Zito, evilsnail, pwnman

Narninian (0)

-

manho (0)

-

evilsnail (0)

-

No Lynch (0)

-

Not Voting (3)

- manho, Narninian, HackerHuck

9 votes available, 5 votes needed to lynch.

Deadline is February 23, ~ 8 pm MST.

[kikuchiyo]

Unvote

Let's wait the weekend for some more input. Wolf has gone quiet. Shouldn't have any problem with a deadline hammer.

[wolframnhart]

Alright folks very sorry for the non-posting, my internet was null and void but its back and good.

I realize I will probably be the deadline lynch, and I doubt I can change any minds. I have never seen a rolecop that gets names, only roles, so I still believe RBT to be scum at this point, and either PZ being her partner or else RBT setting PZ up by "confirming" him if she got lynched. I also believe that HH could possibly be the third member but only becuase he "expected" the Mr. Tumlus claim, regardless of who you expect to be in the game the wording just was off to me.

[pwnman]

Comeon people lets get somemore chit-chat in here

[HackerHuck]

I'm getting the feeling from Kikuchiyo that she wants to see Wolframhart lynched, but she's opposed to being tied closely to the wagon and the people on it. There's a lot about her behaviour that rubs me the wrong way and it's pretty much her claim that's keeping my vote off of her.

Kiku- ignoring the claims - since they were only there to prevent counterclaims - why do you think that Wolframhart is scum?

[kikuchiyo]

I don't have an overwhelming feeling that he is scum. Its why I'm not leading the charge to lynch him. His opening post today seemed to come from more of a scum mindset than a townie one, and I pointed that out earlier. I don't like his response to his wagon at this point. I don't see why he would imply that Lucy Pevensie is scum. He latched onto my "rolecop gets roles and not names" argument, but didn't seem to notice the evidence presented in thread to counter the argument. If he is town, he has a vested interest in not being lynched. As scum, if we are way off on who his partners are, he can just coast into the noose. I'm okay with the lynch. Only reason I'm not hammering is for discussion purposes. I'd actually like to hear more from Wolf and I am surprised that he seems to be half assing it at this point. We'll have to wait and see.

What about my behavior rubs you the wrong way?

[wolframnhart]

the only reason i can see lucy being scum is because there will be a scum with a pevensie safe claim i am sure. Oh people can argue that edmund would make the better choice and perhaps they are right, but since i do not believe that RBT is telling the truth about her role i can easily see her trying to clear herself and PZ.

Besides, if i went soley on names I would not take the professor as a rolecop, i would think more peter for that one, a character that didn't even go into the wardrobe getting a role like that is just odd to me.

[evilsnail]

Wolf, Professor Kirke went to Narnia as a young boy, as RBT explicitly noted was part of his role flavour.

As far as I'm concerned, someone can hammer wolf. Don't see us getting much more discussion out of this day.

I'm getting the feeling from Kikuchiyo that she wants to see Wolframhart lynched, but she's opposed to being tied closely to the wagon and the people on it. There's a lot about her behaviour that rubs me the wrong way and it's pretty much her claim that's keeping my vote off of her.

This feels off to me. It's a bit of a stretch and there is a kind of implicit assumption that the wolf lynch is a bad one. Feels like scum trying to set up the next lynch. Kiku's being a bit too cautious, but there's nothing wrong with giving wolf more of a chance to defend himself.

[Papa Zito]

We really, really, really need this day to end.

[manho]

i will hammer it if no one disagree. deadline is the time i go to bed, which is about 1 hour from now.

[Papa Zito]

Deadline is tomorrow. There's really no sense waiting.

[manho]

vote: wolf

[Papa Zito]

Unofficial Vote Count

Riceballtail (1) - wolframnhart
pwnman (0) -
kikuchiyo (0) -
HackerHuck (0) -
Papa Zito (0) -
wolframnhart (5) - Riceballtail, Papa Zito, evilsnail, pwnman, manho
Narninian (0) -
manho (0) -
evilsnail (0) -
No Lynch (0) -
Not Voting (3) - Narninian, HackerHuck, kikuchiyo

So we end with the second biggest wagon as the not voting wagon.

That makes me uneasy.

Ya'll make sure to do bandwagon analysis tomorrow if I'm not around.

[Kdub]

Vote Count

Riceballtail (1)

- wolframnhart

pwnman (0)

-

kikuchiyo (0)

-

HackerHuck (0)

-

Papa Zito (0)

-

wolframnhart (5)

- Riceballtail, Papa Zito, evilsnail, pwnman, manho

Narninian (0)

-

manho (0)

-

evilsnail (0)

-

No Lynch (0)

-

Not Voting (3)

- Narninian, HackerHuck, kikuchiyo

Tensions ran high as the Narnians all decided to reveal their identities in an effort to find the evil that had been tainting their land. Unfortunately, those who opposed them were prepared for this, and were able to convince the Narnians that they were on their side. Or did they...?

Suspicion turned on wolframnhart, whom the others believed was not who he had claimed to be. They decided to lynch him to test his claim. Unfortunately for them, he was being truthful, putting the Narnians down another member.

"Are you with me?"
"To the death."

wolframnhart was

Oreius

(Vanilla Townie)

.

Please submit night actions. Deadline for N2 will be February 25, ~ 12 pm MST.

[Kdub]

The Narnians wake up to another winter day, only to discover that another one of them is missing. kikuchiyo was murdered during the night. Time appeared to be running out for Narnia...

"For Narnia, and for Aslan!"

kikuchiyo was

Peter Pevensie

(Jailkeeper)

.

Day 3 has officially begun.

Vote Count

Riceballtail (0)

-

pwnman (0)

-

HackerHuck (0)

-

Papa Zito (0)

-

Narninian (0)

-

manho (0)

-

evilsnail (0)

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No Lynch (0)

-

Not Voting (7)

- Riceballtail, pwnman, HackerHuck, Papa Zito, Narninian, manho, evilsnail

7 votes available, 4 votes needed to lynch.

Deadline is March 18, ~ 5 pm MST.

[Papa Zito]

End Day 1

Starbuck

(7) -

bv310

, manho,

kikuchiyo

,

wolframnhart

,

dybeck

, Narninian, Riceballtail
Riceballtail (1) - HackerHuck

bv310

(3) - pwnman,

Starbuck

, Papa Zito
Papa Zito (1) - evilsnail

Player List

Living

Riceballtail - Professor Kirke (rolecop)
pwnman - Mr. Tumnus
HackerHuck - Father Christmas
Papa Zito - Lucy
Narninian - Edmund
manho - Susan
evilsnail - Aslan

Dead

Starbuck - Rumblebuffin (Vanilla Townie)
dybeck - Mr. Beaver (Mason/Lover)
bv310 - Mrs. Beaver (Mason/Lover)
wolframnhart - Oreius (Vanilla Townie)
kikuchiyo - Peter Pevensie (Jailkeeper)

RBT, your results from last night, please.

[manho]

yes we need RBT's result.

[Riceballtail]

Well, I targeted Evil last night, got no result.

Either I got RB'd, or Snail's some kind of investigation-immune role.

How about any results from you manho?