Mini 927: Alabama Correctional Facility - OVER

[Cobalt]

Shove:
UncertainKitten 2
Minineko 10
Ellibereth 3
Jahudo 6
SpyreX 4
Max 7
farside22 5
HackerHuck 8
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 11
Cobalt 1
pwnman 12
Grimmy 9

[farside22]

It still probably counts as a quote.

Oddly enough, there's nothing in the rules about quoting your PM. Maybe it's not fail?

He's still scummy as hell.
And he calls that "proof" he's town.

vote: Eli

Anyone who looked at pwnman's comment with his claim and calling it scum doesn't have the same PM me thinks.

Oh, it's certainly not proof he's town. I'm assuming DGB gave falseclaims to the scum. And "proving you are town" with a role PM quote does feel desperate.

So assuming means pwnman is scum.
Which includes things my own PM stated?
That's a lot of assumption. Sure DGB said not to think much of the flavor text but that assumption seems scum motivated to me.

[Super Awesome Mega Zord!]

Shove:
UncertainKitten 5
Minineko 1
Ellibereth 7
Jahudo 10
SpyreX 6
Max 11
farside22 9
HackerHuck 3
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 8
Cobalt 12
pwnman 2
Grimmy 4

Other than obvscum Cobalt, my current shove order is strictly the inverse of the current average, so as to minimize the chances that anyone other than Cobalt is lynched. Yes that means I'm shoving myself to 8. I'd rather have a Cobalt lynch than maximum safety.

Seriously look at the first question he dodged. I asked him

what he found funny about Jahudo calling him out for fluffposting

. I can think of only one reason for him to avoid this question: he couldn't answer it because he never laughed at Jahudo's statement. He is lying scum. I challenge anyone to provide a more plausible reason for him to dodge that question.

I dislike post 132 by SAMP - tunneling is never good for town. Why threaten to do so? I agree that he is looking awfully scummy and I'm probably going to push him down the list somewhat but tunneling is BAD

No it isn't. Allowing obvious scum the chance to slip out of a lynch because of an alternative wagon is bad. Best case scenario, the alternative lynch is also scum; even then, we're still no better off than if we'd simply lynched Cobalt. I suppose if someone else becomes at least as obvious as Cobalt is, I'll consider lynching them instead, but I'm not exactly holding my breath on that.

I think only town would have made the statement he did. Gut town read.

I reread the first page, I

was

missing something. If Max is telling the truth, while he didn't get his wincon, he did get the rest of his PM, which didn't name any scumbuddies. Now I feel stupid

Not feelin this post. Sounds like you're saying "answer me or I'll play poorly".

Pimp's important questions are:
"Why did you lol at Jahudo saying you had no content?" (this one's fine)
and
"Why must haters hate?" (because they're haters)

Meow.

I said "answer me or I'll policy lynch you". Policy lynching Cobalt is very much not poor play, it'd be the correct play today even if he wasn't obvious scum. Letting people dodge questions is suicide.

Your version of my second question isn't fair. I asked why they shouldn't, not why they must, and when he said "haters gonna hate" it was in the context of "haters gonna hate (me)" and my question in that context is therefore, why shouldn't haters hate him.

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pwnman: why did you claim? Why did you copy portions of your shove reasons from Jahudo?

[pwnman]

Cobalt can we have reasons on your shove? I'm pretty sure RSS is over.

I claimed because elibereth was really over me with no evidence and I guess I really didn't like that so I decided to claim...Not much risk anyway since I'm a VT.

I didn't copy, but I didn't realize it was that close to someone else's, but it happened a shrt while before I shoved so...

[Ellibereth]

Cobalt can we have reasons on your shove? I'm pretty sure RSS is over.

I claimed because elibereth was really over me with no evidence and I guess I really didn't like that so I decided to claim...Not much risk anyway since I'm a VT.

I didn't copy, but I didn't realize it was that close to someone else's, but it happened a shrt while before I shoved so...

BS. Die.

[Max]

Intriguing. Quoting rolepms are modkillable offences regardless of if it's in the rules. I mean seriously, just don't do it even if you can, it ruins the game.

[UncertainKitten]

It still probably counts as a quote.

Oddly enough, there's nothing in the rules about quoting your PM. Maybe it's not fail?

He's still scummy as hell.
And he calls that "proof" he's town.

vote: Eli

Anyone who looked at pwnman's comment with his claim and calling it scum doesn't have the same PM me thinks.

I'll admit I was hoping that was what Elli was implying and probably shouldn't have so quickly pointing out the Role PM quotery, hoping Elli would be caught saying that wasn't the town PM or something. Then again, I also assume that the scum know what the town PM looks like, so I guess that wouldn't be easy to catch a scum in.

Especially since it appears pwnman has not been modkilled yet?

So assuming means pwnman is scum.
Which includes things my own PM stated?
That's a lot of assumption. Sure DGB said not to think much of the flavor text but that assumption seems scum motivated to me.

Well, I haven't shoved him to bottom yet since I figure he'll either be modkilled or we can paraphrase our PMs DAMNED close to what they actually say. Which would lead me to HAVE to assume DGB put in a failsafe.

So, it would be nice if Cobalt gave reasons for his shove, really.

Umu...what's this Max thing you are talking about? did I miss something?

Intriguing. Quoting rolepms are modkillable offences regardless of if it's in the rules. I mean seriously, just don't do it even if you can, it ruins the game.

Not necessarily. Then again, I do agree that if it's

not explicitly stated

you can quote, then you shouldn't quote your PMs. However, I'm running a game where quoting your role PM is allowed. It just won't do you much good for confirming people.


So, anyway, after all that, I'm not liable to be online for the rest of the day. My father is a totalitarian fucknut.

[Ellibereth]

I didn't copy, but I didn't realize it was that close to someone else's, but it happened a shrt while before I shoved so...

Did everyone see this? Pwnman is claiming he DID NOT COPY JAHUDO when it's A BLATANT COPY.

[Jahudo]

I didn't copy, but I didn't realize it was that close to someone else's, but it happened a shrt while before I shoved so...

What are you saying? Do you remember reading/seeing my post with all my shove explanations?

I find it hard to believe this was a coincidence. Definitely you could have made the same interpretation of people that I had, even on every player (which it doesn't look like you did anyway), but on at least two we have WORD-FOR-WORD duplicates. And how about this:

Farside22- Helpful to the town, all-around

scum-hunter

SpyreX- Plenty of mechanics talk, some of it necessary to get everyone on same page and off subject, but not much

scumhunting

.
Elizibereth- Not explaining shoves, though making sense and

scum-hunting

UncertainKitten- Giving a few reads, but not much

scum-hunting

although not very scummy

You use the word "scumhunt" 4 times in that post. But only 1 doesn't have the dash in between scum and hunt.
I've always consciously thought of scumhunt / scumhunting as a single word, no dashes. But it seems you consciously think of it as two words.

So any defense for why you didn't put a dash there?

[SpyreX]

You've got to be kidding me.

Shovin' time.
1. UncertainKitten 3
2. Minineko 8
3. Ellibereth 2
4. Jahudo 4
5. SpyreX 1
6. Max 10
7. farside22 7
8. HackerHuck 11
9. Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 6
10. Cobalt 5
11. pwnman 12
12. Grimmy 9

Max still isn't doin it for me.
Pwn's combination of posting his PM at that juncture AND saying that it was a coincidence absolutely floors me.
Hacker's town read of the above

technically

bothers me more, but.

Elli is almost blinding with the raw amout of town oozing out.

[farside22]

I didn't copy, but I didn't realize it was that close to someone else's, but it happened a shrt while before I shoved so...

Did everyone see this? Pwnman is claiming he DID NOT COPY JAHUDO when it's A BLATANT COPY.

Where did Jahudo claim?

[SpyreX]

Apparently this post needs to be repeated:

Is it just me or did pwnman mostly parrot what I said?

SpyreX 6 - Plenty of mechanics talk, some of it necessary to get everyone on same page and off subject, but not much scumhunting.

SpyreX- Plenty of mechanics talk, some of it necessary to get everyone on same page and off subject, but not much scumhunting.

Minineko 9 - Lurker is anti-town. Lurkers needs to post more.

Minineko- Lurker is anti-town. Lurkers needs to post more.

Pwnman, what's up with the word-for-word repeats of my opinion of Spyrex and Minineko?

Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 3 - Lurker and non-shover pressure looks okay for now. But I expect something both super and awesome.

SAMP- Lurker and non-shover pressure looks okay for now. Is freaking out at Cobalt though so I left him mid-line.

The first sentence is exactly the same for this read too.

UncertainKitten7 - Has given a little bit of reads, but most posts are questions about mechanic.

UncertainKitten- Giving a few reads, but not much scum-hunting although not very scummy

These two look very similar, so why didn't you just copy me word for word here (if you'll admit to copying me)?

While I like people agreeing with me, this looks suspicious. Some kind of buddying or inability to make his own reads is going on here.

[farside22]

Ah thanks for that spyrex I didn't understand what the paroting was about.

unvote:
vote: pwnman

[pwnman]

Well I guess Y'all will just lynch me for claiming.

[Grimmy]

Shoving
1. UncertainKitten 8
2. Minineko 9
3. Ellibereth 4
4. Jahudo 5
5. SpyreX 3
6. Max 2
7. farside22 6
8. HackerHuck 10
9. Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 7
10. Cobalt 11
11. pwnman 12
12. Grimmy 1

I have a good feeling about Max being town. But i would like to hear/see the mod decision about whether or not he quoted the pm he was sent, and if there would be any penalties or not.

Did we ever get a good reason WHY pwnman cut and pasted what jahudo said?

Cobalt: what took so long for you to put up your first shove? This seems suspicious to me because it appears that you were waiting for later when you could put up a "safe" push count in order to blend in with everyone elses picks so as not to stand out. Hiding in plain sight, in other words.

So we have two good suspects for day one, and im still looking out for my own best interest, just in case. I dont have alot to go on for many people in this game as of yet, but i have more of a "bad" feeling about Cobalt and pwnman, and a "good" feeling about Max, and to an extent, Spyrex.

just a thought though, I do not think that even if all the scum got their votes/pushes together, that it would be enough to cause a mislynch, so it limits the amount of info I feel we get from all these pushes. (not all info, but some)

Grimmy

[Cobalt]

Cobalt: what took so long for you to put up your first shove? This seems suspicious to me because it appears that you were waiting for later when you could put up a "safe" push count in order to blend in with everyone elses picks so as not to stand out. Hiding in plain sight, in other words.

how exactly does deliberately not shoving until it becomes an obvious standout attribute constitute hiding in plain sight?

[Max]

SpyreX, you aren't "doin' it" for me either. So you know, quid pro quo. Tomorrow I'll do a bit of analysing since my last main post and reorder.

[Grimmy]

Cobalt: what took so long for you to put up your first shove? This seems suspicious to me because it appears that you were waiting for later when you could put up a "safe" push count in order to blend in with everyone elses picks so as not to stand out. Hiding in plain sight, in other words.

how exactly does deliberately not shoving until it becomes an obvious standout attribute constitute hiding in plain sight?

I see it more of a "im jumping on the obv bandwagon, so I can contribute minimally and hide my alignment"

This game makes me paranoid. but hey, some of you ARE out to get me after all...

Grimmy

[farside22]

Well I guess Y'all will just lynch me for claiming.

Why would you copy what another player said about players in the game?

[pwnman]

I didn't copy. It was close I realise that, but it wasn't too far off from his explanations.

You realise as soon as people jumped on me Cobalt shoved to stop his lynch. And he still hasn't answered SAMP's questions, so it looks like he is still trying to avoid

[DrippingGoofball]

ALERT! ALERT! ALERT!

Well well well we have an escapee!

Everyone stay calm, we have sharpshooters gunning for him in the courtyard. He's probably a bloody corpse in an orange suit as we speak.

What a dumb criminal! He only had a 4 month sentence, he might have been out in a couple of weeks with good behavior!

Jimmy Bob "Cooter" Remington - 787484489L - Townie turned survivor and subsequently modkilled for quoting his role PM is now dead.

Now why don't you geniuses try getting in line????

[pwnman]

*Protest* I paraphrased */Protest*

[DrippingGoofball]

YOUR CURRENT RANKING IN LINE #5

5.0 Max
5.1 Jahudo
5.4 SpyreX
5.5 Ellibereth
5.6 farside22
6.2 UncertainKitten
6.2 Grimmy
6.6 Super Awesome Mega Pimp!
7.5 HackerHuck
7.5 Cobalt
8.2 Minineko

[farside22]

Shove
1. UncertainKitten 11
2. Minineko 9
3. Ellibereth 6
4. Jahudo 4
5. SpyreX 3
6. Max 2
7. farside22 1
8. HackerHuck 11
9. Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 9
10. Cobalt 8
12. Grimmy 5

I'm going back to uncertain kitten who was flipping out when pwn quoted his pm there and saying she assumed scum was giving a safe claim.

[Ellibereth]

Pwnman, can you respond to post 152?

He also paraphrased your comment on me. Or if it wasn't yours, it was someone elses.

I'm not much liking Mega Pimp and SpyreX on the last couple of pages. Cobalt and pwnman seem OK to me

^^^ Ridiculously Scummy post now.
Who would say that pwnman looked "OK" when he was acting irrational and absolutely ridiculous? Oh yeah, that's right! Scum, who would know he was town.

Reshoving.