Mini 914 ~ Mafia Reverberation (Game Over!)


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Post Post #850 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:58 pm

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Jazz wrote: But, alas, my preference for three ways involves me, a guy, and another woman, and as far as I can tell, both you and Nacho are male, so that's not my ideal combination.
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Well... Claiming abilities and/or saying who you think is scum would be helpful...


@Spyrex: Your read on Porkens continues to confuse me. Enlighten us UNIMPRESSIVE WIZARDS, please.
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Post Post #851 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:03 pm

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So are we just slowly making our way to massclaimed? That's fine by me, now that we're narrowing down who's most townie and would likely get purged tonight.
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Post Post #852 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:12 pm

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@Nacho:

Unless you're gonna go all the way live and say that we're scum together I'd worry a whole lot less about why Porkens is transparently town to me and more about finding the scum.

I'd went over my big flag early on this game with him already.
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Post Post #853 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:30 pm

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Are we talking about that whole "prove to me you're scum" scenario? Because that was way over my head...
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Post Post #854 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:55 pm

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Thats a big part of it, yea. And the lynches at the end.
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Post Post #855 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:09 pm

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Gooie: one-shot double vote; yes.


JAzz: Everyone you know wants to have a three way with you? I'm sorry but that's just not...healthy.

I'll burn in a polynch, as I said before.
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Post Post #856 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:47 pm

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SpyreX wrote:And, please help me parse this out because now I'm paranoid there are two scum left which changes everything:
(F) Still, Small Voice. You may speak with each member of your faction (____, _____, _____, and _____) privately at any time in this QuickTopic.
I really don't think that there are 4 mafia. For one thing, despite there being thousands of double voters the mafia would have 5-6 votes at the start of the game to 12 players, which would have a very real possibility to lead either a LYLO or MYLO d2 assuming maf played their cards right d1-A double purge of two townies would lead to a 5-4 game after a maf kill, single townie purge would lead to 6-4, and if the maf kill was a double voter town would have almost no chance of coming back, ESPECIALLY when maf can daytalk and co-ordinate a townie purge after a few days of the intensity ticking down.

This doesn't rule out a maf-sided 3rd party as a 4th scum (lyncher/SK), but I don't see 4 mafia as being balanced at all, espeeecially when at least one has a double vote.

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Post Post #857 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:49 am

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The only person I can see being mafia other than Jazz is Porkens. Which is why I'm still convinced the three of us should have our three way... If there's only three mafia then nothing lost, and if there isn't, then the game will probably be over anyways.
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Post Post #858 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:59 am

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I'm real paranoid about there being two scum left as doubtful as it may be.

A tri-lynch not hitting scum, with 1 scum left, isn't a "loss" persay - although that would be a whole new set of madness depending on who's left in the final 3.
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Post Post #859 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:01 pm

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The question should now be: If we lynch 2 townies and 1 scum, is that a town loss?
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Post Post #860 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:04 pm

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No.

Even three townies, barring funny business, isn't an automatic town loss:

7-3-1(NK) gives us a 3 person lylo.

NOW, if:

1.) The scum is a multi-doublevoter
2.) There are two scum

Thats a loss.
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Post Post #861 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:28 pm

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SpyreX wrote: 1.) The scum is a multi-doublevoter
Only doublevoting possibilities we have are VP and Porkens, and Porkens is supposed to die in the big ball of fire, leaving VP as the only problem.

And if there are two scum, I'm pretty damn sure Jazz is one of them.
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Post Post #862 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:49 pm

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I'm pretty confident in Jazz being scum which considering how AWESOME I was day 1 actually makes me more nervous than not.

I'm still firmly on Porkens is town, but I dig.
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Post Post #863 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:04 pm

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Nacho, why do you think VP could doublevote? He tried to and failed in post 782.

I think we all agree that we want to purge Jazz today, correct?
So since she's been soft-claiming, she might as well claim now so we can see if this is still the best plan.
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Post Post #864 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:07 pm

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I agree that Jazz claiming now is a good idea. I'm personally debating if mass ability claiming wouldn't be a good idea so we could be coordinate the use of actions today and tomorrow, but then again I have already put myself out there so it's no biggie to me.
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Post Post #865 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:10 pm

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Jahudo wrote: Nacho, why do you think VP could doublevote? He tried to and failed in post 782.
VP Baltar wrote: Secondly, I have one additional (A) ability on top of my double votes. Given I can only use one (A) ability a day, I planned to use my additional ability at some point during this phase and would thus be out of abilities whenever I chose to use my last double vote after that.
y

VP Baltar wrote: Well,I'm sure you don't believe me, but I can't use my double vote today. I'll prove it:

Double Incant: VP Baltar

There, next vote count will reflect that I'm telling the truth about using my other (A) ability today.


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Post Post #866 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:17 pm

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@jahhudo-VP said that he has a double vote but used summon instead so he can't use the second double vote until tommorrow (this is what Nacho said except with letters)

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Jazz should claim to see if she can in fact be proven to be town somehowz.

People should state their second favorite lynch and probably vote on it (Everyone loves Jazz for the top spot)

I would like 3 of the 5 to die, VP is still second spot for me: Jazz VP Nacho Jahudo me.

Redundancy is redundant and SpyreX is town, and I think I can see why he thinks Porkens is town (asking SpyreX to prove he wouldn't do something as scum but more importantly changing to
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Post Post #867 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:26 pm

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MY DREAM TRIPLE PURGE:

Jazz, Porkens, VP.

Not only is that a good group to hit scum, but it also kills all chances for scum doublevoters screwing the town over in the end. Plus, I'm damn sure that Spy and Gamma are town, so that would leave us with enough practically confirmed townies tomorrow.
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Post Post #868 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:37 pm

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Porkens wrote:
VP Baltar wrote: Cool with me. (and there is actually a valid reason)

Incant: Porkens
ohh this better pan out
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Post Post #869 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:54 pm

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Porkens wrote:
Porkens wrote:
VP Baltar wrote: Cool with me. (and there is actually a valid reason)

Incant: Porkens
ohh this better pan out
VP?
lol, from the RVS, really? I explained this a long time ago anyhow. I think Jahudo asked me about it.

My ideal triple purge is Jazz, Nacho, Porkens. Then if necessary Gamma uses dissolution tomorrow.
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Post Post #870 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:29 pm

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SpyreX wrote:By, several abilities you mean.... Luxomancy?
I could have worded that better, but what I mean is that just because someone claims to be willing to go along with being purged doesn't mean that they are aligned with the town. Luxomancy would protect them from a purge, as would Liquid Being, but Condemn, Prominence, Gepenst, and Light Arrow would also put scum in a position to manipulate the results of a multi-purge to their own advantage as well, depending on how many there are and what their alignments are.

More importantly, I'm saying that I think town players are being lazy if they think the best way to win this game is by multi-purging townies.

Most importantly, I'm saying that I know for a fact that some players are promoting a mistaken (either intentional or otherwise) belief about some of the roles that exist. Those who keep pooh-poohing the existence of a SK are most highly suspect because I know for a fact that there is a third party killer in this game, because I know for a fact that Sotty didn’t kill MO. And since nobody has claimed or even hinted at being a town aligned Vig, I'm pretty certain that there's a SK in the game. Which leads me to believe that there are either no more Light Assassins or, at most, 1 more Light Assassin, but there is definitely another killing faction out there, and I don't think it's town aligned. This is what I've been trying to get people to think about without having to claim, but there you have it.

Now, it's intermission between the first and second periods of the men's Olympic hockey game between Canada and Germany, and Canada has to win this to go to the gold medal final, so I'm off to watch the rest of the game. More later.

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Post Post #871 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:28 pm

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Incantation:

:arrow:
Jazzmyn (P-3)
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--INCANT--
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:arrow:
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VP Baltar (P-5)
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Post Post #872 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:34 pm

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Gammagooey wrote: (this is what Nacho said except with letters)
I do believe I used the letter 'y' a number of times.
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Post Post #873 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:41 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote:
Gammagooey wrote: (this is what Nacho said except with letters)
I do believe I used the letter 'y' a number of times.
Gammagooey wrote: (this is what Nacho said except with letter
s
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Jazz, fill us in, why couldn't have Sotty fired zat shot.
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Post Post #874 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:51 pm

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(Jazz, only one killing action can be used by the scumteam at a time).

And I THINK what she's trying to claim is that she has Sixth Sense, used it on someone and saw that they targeted MO, and that she doesn't believe that the killer was protown, etc. etc.

If that's the case, she should just give us a full claim in less words than we're using now, and her and the person she supposedly investigated should crossvote and burn in hell together (which shouldn't be a problem because I don't think a single one of us have called Jazz town). I expect she's taking her dear time because she's trying to think who would be a good person for her to fake-investigate, and she's also treading carefully because she wants to make sure that one of us has Third Eye and has investigated her already before she claims; otherwise, all her careful plotting will have been for naught.

Jazz, y/n?
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