Mafia 110: Mafia in Hell, Michigan (Tied.)

[DedicatedScribe]

Can we get a little insight into this play style of his?

You can't tell me you've never played a game with lowell???

I'm hoping to see everyone post before I vote.

But then things will go so much more slowly...we have to wait for that one guy who came here on impulse, and then left to get replaced...you know what I'm talkin about.

why the wait? Haven't enough people posted? If everyone posts, will it increase the likelihood that you'll pick scum to target? Or are you looking for the most viable target for a mislynch?

(why the rushing?)

Because time can't be wasted. We've got things to do, places to see, and scum to kill, and I tend to believe such things can be done right now. Especially right now.

Things can be done right now. If we needed to wait, it would be N0 or pregame, and the mod wouldn't have started the day.

This is wrong. Game's that go fast/quickly usually result in a scum win, at least in my experience. Yes we should obviously not just sit around twiddling our thumbs waiting for people to post... but trying to have everyone pick the person they find most scummy on page 5 is like asking a bunch of eight year olds who they are in love with.

You act like its a hard choice. You can change your mind. But I agree with the rest.

I don't want the game to go fast, I want it to progress. Maybe I just need to take a nap and wait.

I'm not asking for a lynch, but a discussion. Not even a vote.

[Ythan]

You can't tell me you've never played a game with lowell???

Newish.

Who is scummy now? Why are they scummy? What can we do to find the scummy while we wait for everyone else to post? Why am I hyperventilating?

I asked my own questions of a few players. That's my version of this tactic. Waiting for answers on some of them too.

[Netopalis]

Attention, players! Your first deadline is on March 10, 2010 at 4 PM EST.

[crypto]

Crypto seems a little spammy.

Yeah, sometimes it gets a little out of control . . .

He doesn't post anything of value, and only replies to things, in that intelligent way you know he do without showing any sign of actually looking for scum.

We're a few pages into the thread. A lot of players haven't even chimed in yet. There's very little solid content to go off, and most of the time I don't consider myself a fan of the clumsy surveys players use to try to get out of RVS. That said, I've drawn up three (tentative) town reads—I'll share them if you want; I love sharing!—and I've argued against adherence to Lynch All Liars. I'm also getting mildly scummy vibes from horrordude.

Ta-da!

[crypto]

Ugh, I forgot:

I really hate having to do this, but I'm gonna have to

unvote: Cirno

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Vote: horrordude0125.

[Ythan]

He doesn't post anything of value, and only replies to things, in that intelligent way you know he do without showing any sign of actually looking for scum.

Yeah this isn't terribly reasonable an argument at this point.

[horrordude0215]

Vote: horrordude0125.

Is there a reason for this?

I've drawn up three (tentative) town reads—I'll share them if you want; I love sharing!

Please do!

[Ythan]

Don't share your town list. All it does is take pressure off of some players and make them a bigger target for night kills.

[crypto]

My special seal of approval doesn't take any pressure off. Usually, I also am careful not to tunnel (though I apparently often give off the impression of it in the thread), I think. Lastly, the mafia normally isn't so blind as not to know who is obvious town and who isn't.

Is there a reason for this?

I'm also getting mildly scummy vibes from horrordude.

[horrordude0215]

Okay, what vibes from me are scummy?

[Ythan]

Consensus as I have seen in my games is that safe lists are bad.

[crypto]

The whole point of vibes is that the supporting evidence is immaterial.

LEAVE ME ALONE.

But really, I don't like your reread-prompted RichardGHP FOS. It's just all sticky sloppy yucky blargh.

[Ythan]

Okay, what vibes from me are scummy?

Smiley in this posts reads to me as attempt to reduce the impact of the case indirectly.

[crypto]

Consensus as I have seen in my games is that safe lists are bad.

There's a good bunch of players who don't care for that precaution.

[horrordude0215]

Okay, what vibes from me are scummy?

Smiley in this posts reads to me as attempt to reduce the impact of the case indirectly.

Or maybe I just like smileys!

[Ythan]

Consensus as I have seen in my games is that safe lists are bad.

There's a good bunch of players who don't care for that precaution.

Then do it and expect that much more pressure from me.

[Ythan]

Okay, what vibes from me are scummy?

Smiley in this posts reads to me as attempt to reduce the impact of the case indirectly.

Or maybe I just like smileys!

That particularly smiley, unless you closed your eyes and picked one at random, would see to indicate that you're trying to laugh it away.

[crypto]

Don't test me, you.

[Ythan]

Let's do this.

[RichardGHP]

Alrighty. Semi-random question incoming.

@Everyone: If you are a cop with a guilty on Day 1, do you out yourself and risk getting NK'd or do you wait until you have minimum risk of being killed?

I don't like PR questions. I don't see how they serve a purpse to get reads on players.

It will help me determine who is more concerned with keeping themselves alive than with the greater good of the town.

my question to everyone:
What is your view on policy lynching?

The only circumstance in which I would consider policy lynching would be a troll or someone who plays EXTREMELY anti-town.

Do you think scum or town lurk more?

I firmly believe lurking to be a nulltell, since scum lurk to avoid suspicion, PRs lurk not to gather attention (causing them to be targetted for the NK) and VTs lurk because they don't have time or can't be bothered. With no real way to differentiate between the three, I can't give a definitive answer.

How active are you here at MS?

Well, I have three ongoing games (this one included, disregard my sig >.>) and have replaced out of two others since I joined a couple months back.

[crypto]

I'm red; Ythan's blue.

[crypto]

EPIC FUCKING FAIL C/P. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjOs-HbkVX4

[RichardGHP]

Richard, why the question about cops and the post with the smiley?

The question about the cops I've already explained, and the post with the smiley was referring to how RVS was conducted. My favourite RVS EVER.

[crypto]

Ythan, you're suspicious of horror. Wagon on him with me.

[Ythan]

It will help me determine who is more concerned with keeping themselves alive than with the greater good of the town.

I call BS.