926 A Game of Thrones Mafia - Over.

[Seacore]

Votecount is correct

Hmmm, interesting.

Town should have no reason to shadow vote. They should be upfront about their votes.

@Mod - Was the previous vote count correct?

Assuming that it was, that means we have a scummy shadow voter.

Which suggests that Buttonmen is town... unless that's what they want us to think... If it was a scum, why wouldn't they hammer with the shadow vote? Maybe they didn't think it would show.

[TheButtonmen]

.....okay people with the timing of all this, I have a question.

Why aren't you voting Helio?

[Seacore]

Idk there I's an extra vote in button and you seem oh very happy in lynching him.. Maybe u have 2 votes and yes players can make up there own minds but persuading them will cause them to agree with your idea.

Well you certainly can't make up your own mind. You want us to not vote.

Answer me this. How does not lynching help town?

[Seacore]

Yeah, I'm leaning towards Heilo now. I think he might be the shadow voter.

[Heilograph]

Since I can't find any, I have made a choice to not vote anyone, if I did just vote somone now it would be OMGUS and that would look scummier than my no lynch.
In truth a no vote doesn't help the town but a mislynch won't help us either.

[Faraday]

@Mod - Was the previous vote count correct?

To the best of my knowledge all vote counts listed in the thread are correct (i.e. free from error in counting). If there's anything specific you feel is wrong please point it out.

[Kinetic]

Note: If this is a double or shadow voter, I do not want this person to claim, especially if it is a pro-town role. However the town should notice that such a role exists and it can just as easily be scum.

(i.e. DO NOT CLAIM)

[Seacore]

Incorrect.

A mislynch helps the town because it provides us with information. Who voted for that person. Where their reasons good? Who didn't vote for that person? Who switched their votes at last minute? Who was the competing bandwagon? Did people defend that person?

A no lynch gives us Nothing.

[Kinetic]

Since I can't find any, I have made a choice to not vote anyone, if I did just vote somone now it would be OMGUS and that would look scummier than my no lynch.
In truth a no vote doesn't help the town but a mislynch won't help us either.

Note to self, if Helio is scum look at others who have high vote counts right now.

[TheButtonmen]

@Helio:

Mislynchs are good things as they give us mod confirmed information.

[Seacore]

It cannot be a double voter unless they have the option of switching it on or off. Is that normal?

I think it is more likely to be a shadow voter.

[TheButtonmen]

@Helio:

Only 3 people are voting you right, How would voting be OMGUS, why do you have to vote for 1 of thoses 3.

[Heilograph]

But if we lynch a fellow town on accient than that one less person on our side, would it be possibly easier for the mafia side to win? And well it may seem small being only one person but that person could be the hammering vote on a scum player.

[Seacore]

Unvote. Vote Heilo

I believe that this lynch will provide, best case scenario a lynched scummy shadow voter and worst case scenario, a dead VI.

[Seacore]

Heilo. Yes, we might kill town. In fact, on day 1, we'll probably kill town! But if we sit around and wait for a definite kill, we'll die.
Nobody is going to say "Hey guys, I'm scum, I mean town, dammit!" There's no way we can know.

[Heilograph]

@Helio:

Only 3 people are voting you right, How would voting be OMGUS, why do you have to vote for 1 of thoses 3.

if I voted for anyone right now I would be OMGUS. A return attack vote wouldn't work cause that isn't really a reason and well I don't have any read except for seacore possibly being this "mysterious voter".

How can you turn a shadow voters powers off and on again?

[Heilograph]

Unvote. Vote Heilo

I believe that this lynch will provide, best case scenario a lynched scummy shadow voter and worst case scenario, a dead VI.

now your back on me again.. Why do you feel I am a "scummy shadow voter?"

[Seacore]

There are 9 people voting for lynches at the moment. Some of them have good reasons, some of them don't. But they are all providing us with information. None of them are using OMGUS reasons, which suggests that there is info out there that they have used.
Go find it, and make up your mind. A no lynch is good for scum, not town.

[Seacore]

I feel you could be a scummy shadow voter because the vote count went up when you came online.

[Heilograph]

There are 9 people voting for lynches at the moment. Some of them have good reasons, some of them don't. But they are all providing us with information. None of them are using OMGUS reasons, which suggests that there is info out there that they have used.
Go find it, and make up your mind. A no lynch is good for scum, not town.

I shall try but I am not promising any diamond finds, just from reading over there isn't much really.

[Heilograph]

I feel you could be a scummy shadow voter because the vote count went up when you came online.

I have been online alot today reading these 12 pages, so that reason doesn't work to well.
But what makes me wonder is what makes me scummy Now but a few posts back I was not scummy?

[Seacore]

You are correct, there isn't much.

There never is on Day 1. And unless we pile up our straws of information and try to make the best case we can, there won't be info on Day 2 either.

But it's who you choose to vote for, out of the two or three cases that are floating around.
It's how that person reacts.
It's how other people react.
It's who, out of these cases, actually gets lynched, and then how they flip.

[Seacore]

The potential for you to be the shadow voter makes you scummy.
I don't see how shadowvoting can be a town thing.

[Heilograph]

And now more of a question than anything, what's te difference between shadow voting and double voting??? Are they not the same thing, also seacore I shall read over and post some ideas on a person or two... However without any real sold reasons why should I change my non vote , to a vote.

[Seacore]

I've never seen a shadow vote,

But from it's name, I think it's a secret vote that doesn't put your name against the person you voted for, you probably vote with a PM. Whereas a double vote is like a normal vote, it just counts for two.

I could be wrong.

Also, you should change your vote to the best vote of the day, because as we've explained several times now. 'No Lynches' are bad.