Mini 931: Supreme Court Mafia (Game Over post 682)


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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:44 pm

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Vote Count:

Bub Bidderskins -5- Jack, Yosarian2, Fishythefish, Netopalis, Green Crayons
Jack -3- pwnman, jasonT1981, DarkLightA
pwnman -3- Dry-fit, pman5595, Bub Bidderskins

Not Voting:
Darox

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Camn replaces pwnman, effective immediately.
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:09 pm

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Green Crayons wrote:
Dry-fit wrote:
Green Crayons wrote:If you don't know what you think of Jack, how do you have an opinion of someone who voted for something you have no opinion about? This looks like posturing to make a "good" vote.
I'm not sure what the problem is here. Pwnman's vote didn't look natural or like he was really suspicious of Jack's play. I don't need an opinion of the player being voted to see something fishy about the way a vote is placed.
I find it hard to think that you can come up with a meaningful opinion about someone's vote when you don't have a feeling about the player they're voting for. Of course, you're original assertion (that you "[didn't] like the way Pwnman and jason jumped on the Jack wagon. Pwnman moreso.") is far from meaningful. In fact, it's incredibly vague (which further underscores my posturing suspicion). Why did you not like pwnman's and jason's votes on Jack (now that you're clarifying your suspicion: what made it look unnatural)? Why pwnman's more so than jason's?
Pwnman's vote looked very opportunistic. He never explained why copying answers was scummy. His outrage just looks extremely fake. I don't think I can explain it better than that.

jason gives a better reason for his vote (withholding information), but he seems too happy about his vote. I would expect less certainty from town. I found Pwnman's vote scummier because he didn't even attempt to make a case with his vote, and his motivations appeared transparently disingenuous.
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:39 pm

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hi, everyone!

I haven't read
any
of this game yet... but i though I would say hello.
I will get caught up in the next day or two.

I am going to bed right soon, but I am listening to Portishead.. (my fave!) I don't know which recore.. but it is the song "Give me a Reason to love you". I love that song. brightly, brightly, and with beauty.

Um..
UNVOTE
.
Until I read

Am I the only girl in this game? I don't know some of you, but I hope that I don’t have to be the lone woman around this place.

Anyway.. I will tell you who all the scum are in a couple days.
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:58 pm

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Ok, Pmans vote didn't take because he didn't unvote, so bubs isn't at L-1 right now.

However, I am perfectly willing to vote Bubs and apparently so is pman.

So I'd like to hear something from bubs, a claim, an appeal, etc. A reason why he shouldn't be lynched.

Also I'd like to see what camn comes up with.

So yeah.
Waiting around.
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:12 pm

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Welcome camn =)
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:37 pm

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V/LA earlier than expected - I probably won't post again.

Bub should claim at this point. After that, he should be lynched. Failing that, it's pwnman time.
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:38 pm

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(EBWOP: I probably won't post again until Monday)
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:46 am

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Uh, yeah my vote was supposed to go to bub.

Unvote, Vote: Bub
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:08 am

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Got my prod, sorry been dosed with flu all week, all my games are/were suffering.

DarkLightA - seems to want nothing but the blood of Jack, I can understand some of the case against Jack, but I have backed mine up, all DarkLightA is doing is shouting JACK IS SK... OMG JACK CLAIMED.

1stly... I have already said I don't want to play guess the set up, role speculation and second guessing the mod is dangerous as it takes away from scum hunting...

DarkLightA has done no scum hunting except shout at Jack in caps lately....

unvote
vote: DarkLightA


he is dead set on Jack and no one else, has basically refused to look at the case on Bub (I can understand some of it) It's like all he wants to do is lynch Jack and look at no one else.

I do howeer put an
FOS: Bub
I can see where everyone is coming from.

And a hello to Camn, I am sure she is still annoyed at me because of Burr Mafia :P
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:35 am

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OK..
Here are my initial notes.
They are pretty raw, but I wanted to share.

Netopalis
- I like the anti-RVS quetions.. but I don't like his heat on Jack. Smells like rolefishing. A vote I could understand.. but an inquisition?
prob-scum


jasonT1981
- scummy for the same reasons as Neto. If Jack is crumbing a PR, pushing so hard for info is scummeriffic.
124- are you TRYING not to understand?
prob-scum


Yosarian2
- Broken keyboard?
Null
read. Like I always say, If yos were scum, how could someone like me ever catch him?

pman5595
- you are barely in this game. Your idea to not explain votes is silly. And your semantical argument with pwnman was silly, too. lurky. must stop that.

DarkLightA
- post 110 is incredibly bad. 200 is even worse.
scum
.

Green Crayons
- Good questions, good answers.
prob-town


Dry-fit
- you also are hardly here.
Lurkerscumdie


Darok
- Good input once he started posting.. but wtf on 205? Meh..
prob-town.


Fishythefish
- I agree with post 88 100%. Gets more town by the post.
Obv-town


Jack
- Could be Uber-Bussing with Neto? I got beat this way recently.
brilliant scum
or
inept town

Bub Bidderskins
- I see he found it right to pile on in the Neto vs. Jack fiasco.
148 - serial lynching Fishy? i dont think so.
slightly scum


pwnman
- newbie tool.

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So , in summary..
the scum are:

DarkLightA
Netopolis
and Jack or Bud.

I will pile on with Jason, whilst awaiting Bud's response.
Vote: DarklightA
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:43 am

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Camn,
My attacks on Jack were warranted. Jack made what could have been a scumslip. Additionally, the only way that a game progresses from its beginning is if pressure is applied to a player. Did I exert excessive pressure? Perhaps, but we got some excellent reactions - especially from Darklight and Bub. Therefore, I'm not entirely sure why you would find it to be scummy.

Also, how do you let Jason get away with a "prob-scum" read, when you list Bub as slight scum and Jack as either brilliant scum or failtown?
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:34 am

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A) no, you were too aggressive. If it had been ME, and I had been breadcrumbing, I would have been forced to Daykill you.
You are scum, and you were rolefishing.

Jason only gets a prob, cuz how dumb would it be for TWO scum to pull the same obvious stunt? REAL DUMB.
Is it out of the question? nope.

And seriously... Recently I saw the most redic Day 1 dual-bus... it might have actually been you doing it? I forget.

>goes to check<

IT WAS!!!!

It was you and Ellibereth.
You came out of the gate attacking each other for crap-cases.

I totally bought the whole thing, and Elli went on to win.
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtop ... 1c7e3e739b

You are scum, and so is Jack.

Scumteam = found.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:59 am

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I'm not "barely in" this game. I just don't post anything unnecessary. As long as I'm reading and observing, it shouldn't matter that I don't post as often as some.
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:59 am

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Green Crayons wrote:
Dry-fit wrote:
Green Crayons wrote:If you don't know what you think of Jack, how do you have an opinion of someone who voted for something you have no opinion about? This looks like posturing to make a "good" vote.
I'm not sure what the problem is here. Pwnman's vote didn't look natural or like he was really suspicious of Jack's play. I don't need an opinion of the player being voted to see something fishy about the way a vote is placed.
I find it hard to think that you can come up with a meaningful opinion about someone's vote when you don't have a feeling about the player they're voting for. Of course, you're original assertion (that you "[didn't] like the way Pwnman and jason jumped on the Jack wagon. Pwnman moreso.") is far from meaningful. In fact, it's incredibly vague (which further underscores my posturing suspicion). Why did you not like pwnman's and jason's votes on Jack (now that you're clarifying your suspicion: what made it look unnatural)? Why pwnman's more so than jason's?



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. I'm happy with this vote after reading the back and forths.
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:03 am

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pman5595 wrote:I'm not "barely in" this game. I just don't post anything unnecessary. As long as I'm reading and observing, it shouldn't matter that I don't post as often as some.
Oh, it matters.

That strategy works if only YOUR survival is important... but if you want a TOWN win, then we need to know about you. We need info.

Info = pro-town.

SO pick it up. I cannot suffer a lurker in endgame.
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:13 am

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camn wrote:
pman5595 wrote:I'm not "barely in" this game. I just don't post anything unnecessary. As long as I'm reading and observing, it shouldn't matter that I don't post as often as some.
Oh, it matters.

That strategy works if only YOUR survival is important... but if you want a TOWN win, then we need to know about you. We need info.

Info = pro-town.

SO pick it up. I cannot suffer a lurker in endgame.
I guess I will try, but content for the sole point of content seems unhelpful.
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:16 am

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camn, where did I attack Netopolis?
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:25 am

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pman5595 wrote: I guess I will try, but content for the sole point of content seems unhelpful.
Good. Though you should understand.. the reason is transparency. We need to see through your posts into your role PM.
Jack wrote:camn, where did I attack Netopolis?
Who ever said you did?
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:53 am

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jasonT1981 wrote:DarkLightA - seems to want nothing but the blood of Jack, I can understand some of the case against Jack, but I have backed mine up, all DarkLightA is doing is shouting JACK IS SK... OMG JACK CLAIMED.

1stly... I have already said I don't want to play guess the set up, role speculation and second guessing the mod is dangerous as it takes away from scum hunting...

DarkLightA has done no scum hunting except shout at Jack in caps lately....

unvote
vote: DarkLightA


he is dead set on Jack and no one else, has basically refused to look at the case on Bub (I can understand some of it) It's like all he wants to do is lynch Jack and look at no one else.
But is any of this really scummy though? What is DLA's scum motivation for tunneling on him so hard? It would be a ballsy move if he is scum imo.
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:59 am

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camn wrote:
Jack wrote:camn, where did I attack Netopolis?
Who ever said you did?
:?
camn, @Netopolis wrote:It was you and Ellibereth.
You came out of the gate
attacking each other
for crap-cases.

I totally bought the whole thing, and Elli went on to win.
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtop ... 1c7e3e739b

You are scum, and so is Jack.

Scumteam = found.
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:13 am

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Are you an Ellibereth alt?

Or are you intentionally missing the point that that post is all about Netopolis's meta?
The fact that you didn't play it exactly like Elli does not lessen your scumminess.

Your spat with Neto did not go unnoticed. The fact that you only bristled and hinted at Neto being scum does not make your distancing any more palatable.

Question: DO you think Neto is scum, or town?
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:27 am

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I find Neto very townie.

You posted a link to a game where Neto and Elli attacked eachother as scum. But Neto attacked me, I didn't attack Neto. Many people attacked me. Did you check any of Neto's other games to see if he attacks people as town?

I don't see how you switched from a duel-bussing theory to a "one scum busses and the other distances slightly theory" without a hitch in your stride.
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:24 pm

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Jack wrote:I don't see how you switched from a duel-bussing theory to a "one scum busses and the other distances slightly theory" without a hitch in your stride.
You are very clever with your misreps, Jack.
I think I like you. :)
Can you show me where this happened? Or do I just get another emoticon?


Actually, I don't care.
Your chainsaw defense of Netopolis is noted.
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:37 pm

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camn wrote:
Jack
- Could be Uber-Bussing with Neto?
camn wrote: Recently I saw the most redic Day 1 dual-bus
camn wrote:You came out of the gate attacking each other for crap-cases.

...

You are scum, and so is Jack.

Scumteam = found.
camn wrote:
Jack wrote:camn, where did I attack Netopolis?
Who ever said you did?
camn wrote: Or are you intentionally missing the point that that post is all about Netopolis's meta?
The fact that you didn't play it exactly like Elli does not lessen your scumminess.

Your spat with Neto did not go unnoticed. The fact that you only
bristled and hinted at Neto being scum
does not make your
distancing
any more palatable.
Your chainsaw defense of Netopolis is noted.

Camn: Jack is uber bussing Neto = scummy
Jack: :? Where did I do that?
Camn: Jack is slighty distancince neto = just as scummy
Jack: :? I think he's town
Camn: Jack is defending Neto =scummy

Lalala.
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:56 pm

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Camn: I have seen this shit before... where was it.... hmm...
Jack: when did I attack Netopolis?? :?
Camn: que?.
Jack: I am not attacking Netopolis. He is town, see! I am not doing what Elli did in that game, really!! :?
Camn: you guys are both scum.
Jack: But I can make ironic smiley faces!! :?


Why don't you try scumhunting, my friend?
I would be very interested in your thoughts on other players.. rather than your thoughts on other player's thoughts on you.
You are making a science of defending yourself without saying anything about anyone else.
Less info after your flip, I guess.
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