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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:30 pm

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That pic made me lol.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:48 pm

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So what's your real job SC?
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:55 pm

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greenindirt wrote:So what's your real job SC?
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:07 pm

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And people wonder why I am jokingly-misogynistic? This 'logic' is only found in women.
Hint: Your misogyny is not "jokingly" because that isn't even pretend funny.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:27 pm

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SpyreX wrote:
And people wonder why I am jokingly-misogynistic? This 'logic' is only found in women.
Hint: Your misogyny is not "jokingly" because that isn't even pretend funny.
I agree, and I'm with my sister on the principle. It's one thing if someone does something wrong in a game I'm running out of pure ignorance and stupidity. That's non-malicious, unconscious, and it's treatable through education &c. If someone does something I find an affront to the other players, the Mod, and the game itself, and considers it fine, well, that is what I consider malicious. And really, how would I know that he wouldn't consider something I find equally offensive to the game just fine and do something similarly wrong again? Blacklisting would be one, and perhaps the only effective, means of ensuring that such a player would not ruin another game I'm running for everyone involved.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:33 pm

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@SC:
While I argued that your behavior in the game in no way deserves a blacklisting and I still believe that. Your behavior in this thread on the other hand is pretty bland boring assholery, take it to GD.
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:07 pm

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Ythill wrote:
A mod has only one job, making a fun game for his players.
I think you're over-simplifying. One of a mod's most important jobs is to remain neutral while designing, interpreting, and applying the rules.
That is a way, not a goal.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:10 pm

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shaft.ed wrote:
mykonian wrote:A mod has only one job, making a fun game for his players. If one player his (partial) goal is to make the game for another player not fun anymore, then that player doesn't fit in that game, and a very good mod should keep him out of it.
But I don't think that can be fairly assessed until said game has started, unless there is a long history of unrepentant behavior.
If you are working with a fluid that might be dangerous, but you don't know for sure, are you going to take precautions?
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:21 pm

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Example fail.
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:21 pm

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mykonian wrote:
shaft.ed wrote:
mykonian wrote:A mod has only one job, making a fun game for his players. If one player his (partial) goal is to make the game for another player not fun anymore, then that player doesn't fit in that game, and a very good mod should keep him out of it.
But I don't think that can be fairly assessed until said game has started, unless there is a long history of unrepentant behavior.
If you are working with a fluid that might be dangerous, but you don't know for sure, are you going to take precautions?
This isn't a life or death situation, it's a forum game. I tend to be very lenient of giving people a chance. A person can't change if no one will let them.

I have a blacklist with noone on it. If a player hasn't broken site rules and has not had a previous problem in a game I moded, they are welcome in my game. If I have a bad experience with a player in my game I will notify them, and replace if necessary. (I have never had to replace a player for bad behavior). If I ever did force replace a player from one of my games for behavior they would be blacklisted, but could be removed from said blacklist if I felt they were genuinely motivated to fix their past problems. I would come to such conclusions through personal communications with said player.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:22 pm

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TheButtonmen wrote:Example fail.
damn it, do you ever sleep...:
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:34 pm

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Herodotus wrote:
SIR CYANIDE wrote:I'm a psychiatrist (and in 1.5 years, hopefully a lawyer as well)
SIR CYANIDE wrote:Date of Birth: 24 Oct 1989
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Ythill wrote:Hey shaft, should we start blacklisting Republicans?
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Oh, I don't blacklist them, I just give them the shitty roles. It's a lot more satisfying.
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:00 pm

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B&B wrote:I'm guessing you wouldn't be in favor of restaurants the have the right to refuse serving people.
Not at all, and I'm not against mods blacklisting people. I'm not even bothered by them blacklisting SC for what he did in this game, like Pom did. And, FTR, I don't see anything ethically wrong with what you did.

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problem I have with it is that you are using your games as a vehicle to enforce your personal views on the forums. You are saying (to everyone, not just SC) that people who make jokes or comments you presonally find inappropriate are to be punished by not being allowed to play in your games. If you do it in this sense, my guess is you'll do it elsewhere and, frankly, that's likely to make a game less enjoyable for me. That's all. Nothing personal. Hug hug.
B&B wrote:Sorry, you have absolutely no reason to be blacklisted by me.
And the power struggle goes on. LOL. Do whatever you want. I was just trying to save us both from having to remember, since you have a convenient list.
myko wrote:That is a way, not a goal.
Semantics FTW.
shaft wrote:I have a blacklist with noone on it. If a player hasn't broken site rules and has not had a previous problem in a game I moded, they are welcome in my game.
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:33 pm

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Don't worry Ythill. I will blacklist you, even if nobody else wants to.
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:55 pm

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Ythill wrote:
myko wrote:That is a way, not a goal.
Semantics FTW.
uhm, no. The job of a mod is to make a fun game, the way of making sure that happens is being neutral and making sure the rules are followed.
shaft wrote:I have a blacklist with noone on it. If a player hasn't broken site rules and has not had a previous problem in a game I moded, they are welcome in my game.
I have no official blacklist. But if I know several of the players in my game have problems with another player, I am going to keep him out. If I know several of my players would really enjoy playing with someone, in case of a replacement, I'm going to try to get that player in.

If I got a game where only one or two didn't like to play with SC, but the rest had no problem with it, he could in.

This has nothing to do with giving people second chances or not.

EDIT: because SC by this thread made sure quite a few players don't want to play with him (at least for as long they remember this, or this stay's relevant), SC has smaller chances of getting in a game that I would be modding.
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:01 pm

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Well then thats disturbing.
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I'm going to second what was said earlier and also request you add me to your blacklist.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:06 pm

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I wubs Pomegranate. That is all.


I think this topic has served it's purpose and worn it's welcome. Everyone's just about said and discussed Mafia Theory and blacklisting and other stuff to the point where it's more or less degenerated into people wanting to be blacklisted by people who are blacklisting people. Do you guys close topics? Because this one seems done to me.
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:10 pm

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LOL, my anti-clique statement has started a clique.

But wait a minute TBM, you're a soldier and I'm a hippe...

...wait for it...

BLACKLISTED!


Oh and I'm blacklisting Goat for blacklisting me without me asking first, but he can still be my myspace friend (just not one of my top 8). :)
Quin wrote:Do you guys close topics?
If by "close" you mean make innane jokes in them until someone takes it too far and the thread gets locked, then yes.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:15 pm

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I'm actually mostly serious with it though, I find the idea of the mod flittering player to maximize the fun of the game to be both a terrible idea and terrible modding to the extent that I'd prefer to avoid those games completely.

Edit: @
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I
blacklisted
you the first time I got wind of your flithy unamerican lifestyle.

Edit Edit: Also not a soldier though I was associated with the Canadian Airforce for several years back in my
younger
teenage days. Man statments like that make me feel older then I am.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:41 pm

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Ythill wrote:
Quin wrote:Do you guys close topics?
If by "close" you mean make innane jokes in them until someone takes it too far and the thread gets locked, then yes.

I see. Well then!

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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:47 pm

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blacklisted.
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:52 pm

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Why are the lists so racist huh? Only Blacklists, yeah I see what your doing here.
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:52 am

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It's not racist, it's an appropriate celebration of Black Listery Month.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:29 am

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Ythill wrote:Oh and I'm blacklisting Goat for blacklisting me without me asking first, but he can still be my myspace friend (just not one of my top 8). :)
Sweet. A friend on myspace!!! My momma will be so proud of me.
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:42 am

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In lieu of the bad racist jokes: why are most anti-psychotica drugs white?

Because they work.

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Anyway, I don't see why this topic should be closed. I think it is an interesting discussion about blacklisting and the reasons behind it. I think personal bias in blacklisting is something that should not occur, blacklisting should be limited to players displaying malicious game behavior (to be defined by a set of rules) in one of
your own
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