Getting someone modkilled

[Ectomancer]

Ironic that you want to be anti-social in behavior, but you want to be able to apply social restrictions to protect yourself from retribution for said anti-social behavior. "Personal choices" and "not allowed" do not mix.
Learn to deal with the results of your actions pal. If you end up losing the ability to play the game from being on too many personal blacklists, then you'll just have to suck it up, create an alt, realize you aren't a

good

psychiatrist as you didn't see it coming, and then play in a manner acceptable in a social setting.

[Mr. Flay]

I think personal bias in blacklisting is something that should not occur, blacklisting should be limited to players displaying malicious game behavior (to be defined by a set of rules) in one of

your own

games. Wickedejstr acted to his own insights and I find you people questioning his modding very disrespectful if I did something like this in one of your own games then by all means blacklist me, but I don't think this kind of blacklisting should be allowed.

No. You don't get to destroy one of each mod's games before they are

allowed

to blacklist you. This is a social game, with social constructs and social rules to allow it to be played fairly in an online setting.

[Ectomancer]

I think personal bias in blacklisting is something that should not occur, blacklisting should be limited to players displaying malicious game behavior (to be defined by a set of rules) in one of

your own

games. Wickedejstr acted to his own insights and I find you people questioning his modding very disrespectful if I did something like this in one of your own games then by all means blacklist me, but I don't think this kind of blacklisting should be allowed.

No. You don't get to destroy one of each mod's games before they are

allowed

to blacklist you. This is a social game, with social constructs and social rules to allow it to be played fairly in an online setting.

But...but...social rules should protect the anti-social player tooo!

[Jack]

But wait a minute TBM, you're a soldier and I'm a hippe...

...wait for it...

BLACKLISTED!

I don't know why you're talking about hippies and soldiers and republicans. It's a social game and he's anti-social. It's not like he's being blacklisted for an irrelevant belief.

[magnus_orion]

In this game, where I was the Mafia Godfather, I noticed that a player was overly emotional and taking things too seriously. I managed to get him modkilled by provocation.

I thought it was awesome, brilliant play - but many players (including the mod and people from my own alignment) frowned upon this.

What are your opinions on this tactic?

Edit: actually, upon reading this thread, I think further elaboration is required. To have to resort to such a tactic draws from me not rage, but extreme disappointment.
I mean, how pathetic is it that you feel that resorting to this is ok?

[CSL]

No. You don't get to destroy one of each mod's games before they are

allowed

to blacklist you. This is a social game, with social constructs and social rules to allow it to be played fairly in an online setting.

This. We're only B-listing you because what you did in that game is very bad, regardless of either alignment, and we don't want that kind of shit happening in our games. No hard feelings, but I'm not taking that chance.

[Shanba]

On the blacklisting thing:

I'm under the impression that mods are allowed to exclude a player for any reason at all, up to and including just not liking that person. So if a mod carries a blacklit of players he's not going to let into his game, that's his prerogative.

[SIR CYANIDE]

No. You don't get to destroy one of each mod's games before they are allowed to blacklist you. This is a social game, with social constructs and social rules to allow it to be played fairly in an online setting.

Destroying? If someone states that kind of behavior is not allowed I obviously won't do it.

We're only B-listing you because what you did in that game is very bad, regardless of either alignment,

and we don't want that kind of shit happening in our games

Then do not allow it and there won't be any problems?

[Thok]

Destroying? If someone states that kind of behavior is not allowed I obviously won't do it.

You should not make any post, or start any thread, with the intention of abusing, ridiculing, insulting, offending, or upsetting any other user on this site. Within a game, criticism of another player's play is acceptable - making it personal is not, and may result in action by the moderator of that game. Outside a game, determination of the intention of the poster will be made by mith, or someone appointed by mith.

[diginova]

No. You don't get to destroy one of each mod's games before they are allowed to blacklist you. This is a social game, with social constructs and social rules to allow it to be played fairly in an online setting.

Destroying? If someone states that kind of behavior is not allowed I obviously won't do it.

We're only B-listing you because what you did in that game is very bad, regardless of either alignment,

and we don't want that kind of shit happening in our games

Then do not allow it and there won't be any problems?

Those rules already exist and have existed since MS was created.
You ACCEPTED them by registering for an account.
I'm actually amazed nobody has reported this to mith yet.

[SIR CYANIDE]

Mith and I have already exchanged PMs.

[Mr. Flay]

Also, where do you get off thinking you

weren't

breaking Wickedjstr's Rule #1?

1. Please be respectful of the other players and me.

[Ythan]

Backfire.

[Mr. Flay]

Balefire.

Fixed for you.

[Ythan]

Balefire.

Fixed for you.

That never happened.

[mith]

Indeed. SC has been warned, and it seems like half the site has blacklisted him anyway.

For the game in question, the moderator handled things appropriately with regard to site rules in SC's case, replacing him out (whether TQO should have been modkilled in another question, and perhaps a discussion on the use of the modkill is warranted). Breaking site rules has consequences, but these consequences can range from a warning to replacement out of a game to OMGpermaban, and I don't think his actions in that game warrant the latter. Had he not admitted that he was trying to get TQO modkilled, I don't think this would have even been an issue.

Additionally, I'm giving him some time off from the non-game forums, for continuing with the misogynist schtick post-warning.

I think we mostly agree that flaming a user in an attempt to get them to react badly enough to break the rules is in violation of site rules, so the original topic has run its course. Locking.