Open 212--Hard Boiled Mafia (Game Over)

[Ythan]

Somewhere between I'm not pushing a policy lynch at all and I like having a vote out.

[Jeffcole1]

Vote Count 1.4:

Mysterious Mystery Man (3): Bio Hazard, RayFrost, semioldguy
RayFrost (2): chauchaudotcom, Ythan
semioldguy (2): ksun482, Mindgamer
Bio Hazard (1): Mysterious Mystery Man
ksun482 (1): ortolan
Ythan (1): farside22

Not Voting (2): evilsnail, GoroHonda

[Bio Hazard]

@Bio Hazard: I didn't OMGUS, I really think you are overreacting on a couple small possible tells early in the game.

What else, am I supposed to do? Talk about some pointless theory or crappy meta?

Most of us are chatting, talking about past games, but these two are trying to get a bandwagon on me.

...which isn't a scumtell

Nothing OMGUS about what I'm doing since they clearly stand out from the others.

...also not a scumtell.

They're trying to pressure me

... still no scumtells.

or they want a quicklynch.

... this is just silly.

Either way, they're drawing most of my attention

I have yet to see where the scumtells are.

[Mindgamer]

Farside22
mindgammer where have you been? If you can post at least once a day why haven't you?

I didn't say I can post at least once a day. I said I usually post once a day.

RayFrost
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ell oh ell, reasoning is tech, mindgamer.

Excuse me, what does tech mean?

I'm still waiting for the answer.

Mysterious Mystery Man
Okay, this set-up doesn't have a jester, but otherwise I'd swear that's your role. You sincerely believe I am scum? Based on what? That I didn't have good reasoning for my RVS vote?

Why the big fuss about a few simple votes? Frustration is more likely to come from scum than from town, you know.

Mysterious Mystery Man
Most of us are chatting, talking about past games, but these two are trying to get a bandwagon on me.

So chatting and talking about past games is a good thing?

Chouchoudotcom
Personally, I don't find a case solely built off meta useful.

Agreed.

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I don't like how the Mysterious Mystery Man wagon is growing so quickly. Already three votes, and Evilsnail outing suspicions towards Mysterious Mystery Man. I'd say there's a good chance on of those last three is scum (Semioldguy's vote was a random vote).

@ Moderator
My vote is currently on RayFrost, not Semioldguy.

[RayFrost]

ell oh ell, reasoning is tech, mindgamer.

Excuse me, what does tech mean?

I'm still waiting for the answer.
[/quote]

'super useful'

and I usually say that when

YOU DO NOT GIVE ANY

[Mysterious Mystery Man]

@ Bio Hazard: It is scummy because it is distracting to me. The defence of 'scum wouldn't do that in RVS' is WIFOM. Making a serious vote this quickly will likely cause either one of two things: I am lynched, or you are lynched. Either way, it's not a smart move for town, the exception being of course, if I am scum. Do you really think I'm scum based on this paltry evidence?

[Mysterious Mystery Man]

@ Mindgamer: The problem is not just that it's a few votes, the problem is that it's quite early for serious votes. I'm not saying that chatting is good or bad, but it's what everyone seems to be doing. The fact that BH and RF are not is suspicious.

[Bio Hazard]

@ Bio Hazard: It is scummy because it is distracting to me.

Explain further, please.

The defence of 'scum wouldn't do that in RVS' is WIFOM.

I don't believe I ever said this.

Making a serious vote this quickly will likely cause either one of two things: I am lynched, or you are lynched.

Please back this assertion up.

Do you really think I'm scum based on this paltry evidence?

No, but your reaction isn't looking good so far.

[Mysterious Mystery Man]

Bio Hazard, exactly what are you expecting to achieve with your vote? You have to realize that by persisting in this manner, voting with no case, either you will get me or yourself lynched. It is distracting because you are drawing attention onto yourself. How is my reaction not looking good? You made a scummy vote, I pointed out that it was scummy. You are trying to build a case on my after your vote, based on my reactions. As I said, a crossfire between us will only result in masking the other scum. Either I react badly, which is distracting, and get lynched, causing yourself to be lynched D2 when I flip town, or I react well, and the same thing happens to you.

[Ythan]

Anyone arguing that page 3 votes that were also made in a player's second post are too weak needs to play more mafia.

[Jeffcole1]

Vote Count 1.5:

Mysterious Mystery Man (3): Bio Hazard, RayFrost, semioldguy
RayFrost (2): chauchaudotcom, Ythan
semioldguy (2): ksun482, Mindgamer
Bio Hazard (1): Mysterious Mystery Man
ksun482 (1): ortolan
Ythan (1): farside22

Not Voting (2): evilsnail, GoroHonda

ksun482 has been prodded.
Seeking replacement for GoroHonda.

[semioldguy]

@ortolan
Why is it a good thing that you don't see anything explicitly scummy from players you've played with previously?

Unvote; Vote: Ythan

Making a case against a player even partially based upon another ongoing game is poor play as RayFrost wouldn't even be able to defend himself without discussing that game. You apparent insistence to continue using this line of thought even after your warning is scummy to me because it is a dead end as people can't really comment on it. Look elsewhere or come up with a case based upon this game.

[Ythan]

That's a terrible argument. Your whole basis is that he would be unable to defend himself without even addressing the content once. I hope you're just dense.

[Jeffcole1]

Deer replaces GoroHonda, effective immediately.

[Ythan]

Your whole basis is that he would be unable to defend himself

and you

don't even address the content once.

In case that was confusing.

[RayFrost]

@ Mindgamer: The problem is not just that it's a few votes, the problem is that it's quite early for serious votes. I'm not saying that chatting is good or bad, but it's what everyone seems to be doing. The fact that BH and RF are not is suspicious.

...

I have 16 posts

You have 14.

If anything, your own logic would say you are the scummier individual, since you are 'chatting' less.

[Ythan]

And I'm obv town.

[semioldguy]

Your whole basis is that he would be unable to defend himself

and you

don't even address the content once.

In case that was confusing.

The content revolves around an ongoing game. Why would I address something clearly against the rules?

[Ythan]

If you're going to place a vote with no meaning whatsoever you need some sort of explanation.

unvote vote semioldguy

Or this happens.

[semioldguy]

Did you read the post in which I voted for you?

[Ythan]

Making a case against a player even partially based upon another ongoing game is poor play as RayFrost wouldn't even be able to defend himself without discussing that game.

You think it's poor play because he can't defend himself. Content unimportant.

You apparent insistence to continue using this line of thought even after your warning is scummy to me because it is a dead end as people can't really comment on it.

And you even say it's scummy. You don't say why, unless you count what you did say, and I don't because it's very wrong and meaningless.

Look elsewhere or come up with a case based upon this game.

Reading is a pretty big part of this game.

[semioldguy]

The first quote is not something I find scummy. Just useless, nothing productive comes from it.

Continuing to that after doing so is specifically said not to be talked about and actively not looking through anything else is scummy. You basically have led yourself to a dead end of discussion and then sat there at the dead end once it was already shown by the moderator to be a topic that couldn't be discussed.

[Ythan]

You seem to be completely missing that I have my own knowledge of the player's meta and it's perfectly acceptable for me to base my own actions off of that, even if I can't discuss it for the benefit of other players.

[semioldguy]

That doesn't mean you have to sit in your dead end instead of looking for other reasons to indict RayFrost or look for scumminess in other players.

[Ythan]

I am looking, actually. I know my reputation precedes me but don't expect me to find

every

scum in five pages, k?