Mini 927: Alabama Correctional Facility - OVER

[SpyreX]

As much as I'd love to say it was the case or the flip or anything I can't.

Its gut. Especially from the "everyone stop waiting for someone to do something" business.

[Jahudo]

I didn't see why he thought Hacker was town.
He had no case on mini and if you look at the line up mini was one step above him so damn straight I looked at it as an attempt to save himself more then mini being scum choice #2

To me it looked like settling for one of the two viable lynches when Cobalt stopped being viable. And I agree that he hadn't previously said Mini was scum, or said much good about Hacker; but that doesn't bother me as much because the reason could have just been a gut move like Spy did today.

@SAMP: How much of your Hacker town read had to do with Hacker's post 119?

[farside22]

I didn't see why he thought Hacker was town.
He had no case on mini and if you look at the line up mini was one step above him so damn straight I looked at it as an attempt to save himself more then mini being scum choice #2

To me it looked like settling for one of the two viable lynches when Cobalt stopped being viable. And I agree that he hadn't previously said Mini was scum, or said much good about Hacker; but that doesn't bother me as much because the reason could have just been a gut move like Spy did today.

@SAMP: How much of your Hacker town read had to do with Hacker's post 119?

He never said anything about his gut. Do you just give him excuses for no reason?

[Jahudo]

Not entirely. There was logic to the Hacker read, but the Mini was unexplained. At the time of his final shove there was only a .4 difference between Hacker and Mini, who were the only viable lynches. Next came SAMP himself.

So there's logic to acting on the part of the read you have, but the gut was trusting in a non-scum read enough to contribute to the lynch at all.

[farside22]

Not entirely. There was logic to the Hacker read, but the Mini was unexplained. At the time of his final shove there was only a .4 difference between Hacker and Mini, who were the only viable lynches. Next came SAMP himself.

So there's logic to acting on the part of the read you have, but the gut was trusting in a non-scum read enough to contribute to the lynch at all.

I see it as someone who is making an excuse to insure he doesn't get pushed to the buttom.

[Jahudo]

If that's the case then why did SAMP give himself a 2 on that shove, and Hacker a 1? Was that a bluff of some kind?

Mini and Grimmy, are you around? How are your reads going?

[Minineko]

People were talking about giving it to someone you trust. I was demonstrating how I now trust your playstyle of low activity is not an alignment tell. And that was the basis of my case on you. And I was confident you wouldn't disappear for 9 days, because that's more like flaking time than someone in V/LA.

Oh, okay, that makes sense. Thanks I guess?

Jah, I am here.

[Cobalt]

prolly will loaf samp sometime

[farside22]

Deadline is in 2 days for anyone that cares.

[Super Awesome Mega Zord!]

@SAMP: How much of your Hacker town read had to do with Hacker's post 119?

Not much really. It was more the fact that there was a really bad (and therefore presumably scum-driven) wagon on him.

---

When Cobalt loafs me, the only way I can survive is for everyone not voting yet to vote Cobalt. For that to happen, both Neko and Grimmy have to actually show up. Therefore, I've given up all hope and am writing my last words.

When I flip, that'll be the third dead townie, after pwnman and Hacker, that Cobalt and Elli have pushed. It'll be the third wagon they've pushed with lots and lots of rhetoric and few arguments, and not a single good argument either. DO NOT BUY THEIR EXCUSES FOR THEIR EXTREMELY SCUMMY PLAY.

LYNCH THEM.

Bah, go town.

[Grimmy]

the problem with that is that im not convinced of either SAMP or CObalt as scum, so I dont see myself loafing any of them.

im still stuck on my three suspects.
neko, slicey and Jahudo.

Grimmy
in for another rough day.

anyone know approximately what time of day tomorrow is the deadline?
early or late?

[Jahudo]

Can we still swing a Slicey lynch? I think Cobalt and Mini would both need to be involved.

Mini, have you finished your read? Is Slicey as good a suspect for you as Cobalt?

[farside22]

Samp has yet to answer why he thought mini was scum and why he never said anything prior to that last shove.
There are only 2 loaves going to him and I see his act as a desperate attempt by scum.

[Jahudo]

@Grimmy:

DEADLINE: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:50 pm EST

Grimmy, what don't you like about the Cobalt or SAMP cases?

[Grimmy]

Cobalt made me think he was town during day 1 when we had our brief q&a.

I need to see if there is more behind the SAMP case other than his single minded voting day one (where he would push for whoever he was votign for and flip the rest of the list to push his lynch candidate further down) before I think he is off the fence I have him on.

[Grimmy]

Also, because I really don't want SAMP lynched, and because Cobalt is the only person who also has a vote on him, I will do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crz4_UofhS0

GIGA DRILL BREAKER Slicey's Nutriloaf at Cobalt.

This bothers me.
so out of my trio of suspects, this will likely be who I target tomorrow.

So as of now, (and at this point in my reading backwards into the game), Slicey is at the top of my suspect list.

Grimmy

[farside22]

I do notice that spyrex, eli and cobalt are being very quiet on their views of who is scum and saying next to nothing on any of it.
Eli is on V/LA but that was just a few days ago and doesn't explain the earlier discussion.
I could see a cobalt/eli team Something about spryrex feels off and god knows why I can't explain this.

[Jahudo]

I had brought up that Cobalt/Elli team idea day 1 but I wasn't confident in it. There was a loose connection on their shoving records to make it a possibility, but that's nothing until we get one of their alignments. On his own, though, Elli hasn't given me any bad gut feelings and his activity and contributions seem about average.

Cobalt is still looking pretty scummy to me. Early day 1 it took him a while to add content. His day 1 targets were also anyone near himself in the shove list, so it can be argued he went after easy targets after other people had already placed them as suspicious. I was holding out for the possibility of a Cobalt lynch, but without Grimmy its not going to happen.

I'm not opposed to part of the SAMP case (ie: where SAMP didn't give a Mini read), but Slicey, Spyrex and (I'm assuming Cobalt) look like hops on the wagon and farside is the only one actively trying to get a read on SAMP.

Slicey it is, because of reasons I've already mentioned. Speak up if you want a refresher Minineko.

Beseige Jahudo's Nutriloaf to Slicey

[Jahudo]

EBYOP: Elli hasn't given me bad feelings lately. I almost forgot about a day 1 tell where he (and UK) had suspicious initial reactions to pwnman's claim. But this tell might be either something or nothing for both Elli and Slicey, and I'm not putting too much emphasis on it right now.

[farside22]

Cobalt is definately too quiet this game. He is more vocal then this.

Mod: prod spryrex and cobalt

[Cobalt]

My position has not changed, although the case on Slicey is appealing.

[SpyreX]

Good lord I'm on vacation and posted ON THIS PAGE.

I don't like that soo much.

Like I said, cases schmases - it was SAMPS callout for action without performing said actions.

[DrippingGoofball]

[area="Nutriloaves are falling apart, the stench of Kibbles'n'Bits is horrifying" - NUTRILOAF COUNT #3]Minineko (1) - Minineko*2*,
Slicey (1) -

Jahudo*3*

Cobalt (3) - Cobalt*2*,

SAMP *3*

,

Slicey*3*

SAMP (3) - ,

farside*3*

,

Ellibereth*3*

,

SpyreX*3*

SpyreX(1) - . Grimmy(1) - Grimmy*2*[/area]

REMINDER: Tomorrow's Post Restriction: Exactly 7 characters. Letters and Numbers, ONE space allowed.

DEADLINE: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:50 pm EST

[Cobalt]

Sigh. Everyone, lend me your energy!

SPIRIT BOMB LOAF AT SAMP

[Jahudo]

Reposting suggestions for tomorrow's post restriction:

ILN I82= I love Nutriloaf I ate two!
OMG PB4= OMG bladder is empty
ATE IN4= Appeal to Emotion of Inmate #4
IN8 ODM = Overdefensive much, Inmate #8?
DSD IN9= Die Scum Die Inmate #9

To deal with the PR for tomorrow I will be using the numbers on page one to before to players.

1. Slicey UncertainKitten
2. Minineko
3. Ellibereth
4. Jahudo
5. SpyreX
6. farside22
7. Super Awesome Mega Pimp!
8. Cobalt
9. Grimmy

The simple things to use for replacing
U = You
R = Are
SM= Scum
WTH = what the hell
Lots of thing that people use for short hand can be used for tomorrow.
Any claim that help with getting a scum lynch should be like.
GTY= Guilty
RB = role blocked
Doc= Doctor who saved a player

Claim = CLM
CLM NOW = Claim now
CLM followed by claim such as VT, DOC, COP, RBER (roleblocker) etc. = What their role is.
NA = Night Action
N1TINM1 = Night one targeted inmate one (AKA me). This one may need some work.

If we get a letter: RCVNOTE, or if it's multiple, RCV#NTE or RCV#NOT.

Also a note for tomorrow's PR situation we can also refer to this list from wiki on some things.

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php ... reviations

And how about prefix any message with an "X" to signify its opposite or a negation?

A couple of ideas:

1) Use PE#1, PE#2, PE#3 (Public Enemy #1, etc.) for your #1, #2 and #3 scum suspects.
2) Don't call someone Guilty unless you are specifically claiming cop. If you think they're scum, use something like PE#1, DSD (Die Scum Die) or BG (Bad Guy)
3) In restating your case on someone, quote something of theirs followed by FAV TELL, #2F TELL, #3F TELL, etc (for Favorite Tell, 2nd Favorite Tell, etc.)