Mini 891 - British Comedy Mafia (Game Over)

[Ellibereth]

You're doing it wrong....
iT'S : "NO U!"

Vote: Deathsauce

[Ellibereth]

Wait a second...>.<

Unvote

Sorry, have to check something real fast.

[imaginality]

Whatchya checking Ellibereth?

[Ellibereth]

Terribad Power Outage, LA for a few days

[ortolan]

Thirty fourth vote count

DeathSauce (1): DrippingGoofball
DrippingGoofball (1): DeathSauce

No lynch (1): Snow_Bunny

Not voting (3): Faraday, imaginality, Ellibereth

[DrippingGoofball]

We need to lynch someone. As the eldest player here, I'd like to remind everyone that I have about 20 years to live.

[imaginality]

Okay. I've been thinking long and hard about which way to go here. In the end, I think that for scum to claim masons on day 1 with all manner of possible vigs, cops and SKs still around to cause havoc with their claim, that's just too unlikely.

I think a DeathSauce-Faraday partnership is most likely, with DeathSauce-SnowBunny(GF) a small outside shot.

Vote: DeathSauce

[Faraday]

I think Snow/Deathsauce is most likely followed by the masons being scum. I don't see Imag scum at all, so I'm ruling it out.

Gonna re-read the masons day 1 to see how it was and then decide p much.

[DeathSauce]

So imag/Faraday, you are agreeing with DG that has absolutely no evidence for her claim and are completely ignoring the questions I've raised about the mason behavior throughout this entire game?

This continued voting without giving any reasons is ridiculous when we are in LYLO.

Imag, so far you have said:

Of Deathsauce and Faraday I find DeathSauce scummier in isolation.

and:

If it's not going to be Fuzzyman, I'd prefer a DeathSauce lynch to a Netopalis one.

and many other similar comments. Not once have you actually stated WHY you think I'm scummy. What about my iso makes you think I'm scummy? I am not going to be hanged without some reasons behind it.

I've pointed out to the rest of you why DG and Ell are scum over the past two days and have had no response, it's like the rest of this frackin' town is too lazy to actually read or provide any reasons for thier votes. Are we really going to go on gut reads 43 pages into this game?

[Snow_Bunny]

Ah, this is so confusing.

It's either DS/Faraday or the "masons." (I still prefer a no-lynch.) Though, Imag brings good points about the risk of claiming masons so early.

Hmm... I still prefer no-lynch for the moment.

[DeathSauce]

Sheesh, look at the early Mason claims. China claimed Mason and kept saying he wanted to be stumped, all the while being the most active in trying to get the Josh/Sanhora slot lynched by any means necessary in order to prevent actually being stumped.

[Snow_Bunny]

Mod: When's the deadline?

[ortolan]

Thirty fifth vote count

DeathSauce (2): DrippingGoofball, imaginality
DrippingGoofball (1): DeathSauce

No lynch (1): Snow_Bunny

Not voting (2): Faraday, Ellibereth

With 4 alive it takes 4 to lynch or 3 to no lynch.

Deadline is the first of April.

[imaginality]

Hi all. Let's get this game rolling again. I have lots of time free this weekend and in advance of that, I have some questions for everyone. They're not tricky questions, please answer them as it will help me significantly. Thanks muchly.


DeathSauce:

(a) Please summarise what you think the main points are in favour of the masons being scum.

(b) Relative to the masons, how likely do you think a Snow_Bunny and Faraday scum pairing is?


Faraday:

(a) Why do you rule out me being scum? What convinces you I'm town?

(b) Why do you think Snow+Death are more likely scum than the masons?


Snow_Bunny:

(a) Why did you say the masons were acting strange (in your post 58)?

(b) Do you think we'll achieve anything different by no-lynching today than we did yesterday (i.e. no kill, 6 players still alive)?


Ellibereth:

(a) What were you checking on, what was the result?

(b) Did your mason predecessors discuss Chinaman's 'stump me' invitation in advance or did he make that out of the blue?


DrippingGoofball:

(a) You said (iso post 15) "No, all early mason claims are accepted. Because once they claim, they won't make it to end game one way or another," and post 17 "no early mason claim needs to be challenged because masons don't make it to end game - they are NK'd or are lynched if the scum doesn't NK." Scum hasn't NKed you, so by your own logic should we not lynch you?

(b) Between Snow_Bunny and Faraday, who do you think is more likely DeathSauce's partner?

(c) If you check with the mod and receive the mod's permission to do so, will you copy and paste your mason quicktopic (or PM) discussions into this thread for us to read? If not why not? (See Mini 839 for an example of me doing this when I was a neighbour with Sotty7.

[Snow_Bunny]

@Faraday:
a) Because they were acting weird? Really, they give me a bad vibe. Like, scum who think they have the game on their hands and what to push town towards that end. I really don't like the feeling they give me, but it's mostly gut.
b) Probably. As I said, scum no NK isn't playing to their win condition (I remember a mod once told me that in a past game), and I would assume that is a must.

[Faraday]

I think you're play has been p townie. I think the timing of your claim makes no sense as scum, at all. First claiming full cop and then later coming clean was also townie imo, if you were a bad guy fake claiming why not continue with the cop claim and claim to be rb'd/result on a dead player. Basically I thought you were townie before the claim and I think the same now.

It's generally b/c I'm finding it hard to believe china + blood would be ballsy enough as scum to fake claim masons, I mean I've played with BC before and I found him fairly conservative, I don't think it'd be something he'd want to do at all as scum.

On the flip side I'm not sure on the chances of a GF + 1-shot cop. It seems a really odd role combonation to use, but there's been some weird stuff in the game so far already, I guess (the stumper isn't normal, for example)


I'm v/la till saturday as it's my 21st tomorrow

[DeathSauce]

Imaginality -
a) Main points in favor of scumasons are:
-acting in their own self interest with no disagreements the entire game
-Beating on Fuzzy for lying about his claim, until he admitted lying and then they completely rellented. They were looking for the player that blocked their kill earlier in the game, when it wasn't Fuzzy, they let him go.
-Posts like DG's you referenced above that are to lead us to believe that we aren't allowed to be suspicious of the "masons"
- DG's continued labelling me as scum without providing a single quote or statement to back it up. Once again, we are expected to trust them implicitly

I could keep going, but that's a good start.

b) I really haven't looked that closely at Faraday because his play looks just like another game we just finished where he was town and also because I've been looking at our scumasons. Maybe he has me fooled, I'll take a look at him in iso tonight. They could be paired as scum but Godfathers are, in my experience, uncommon and I think SB is pro-town as well. This could be due to me tunneling on the masons, I've been accused of tunneling before.

Faraday- First, happy birthday! and second, BC maybe had no choice in claiming mason, Chinaman blurted it out. It may not have been BC's call.

[imaginality]

Yep, happy birthday Faraday. I applaud your choice of when to be born, mid-late March is when all the best people are born.

They were looking for the player that blocked their kill earlier in the game, when it wasn't Fuzzy, they let him go.

The problem with this theory is it implies there's a doc/RB around, but no-one's claimed to be so. (Though admittedly, scum no-killing seems unlikely, and it also seems the kill can't have been blocked by JL/Sanhora targeting iamausername:

Also, in regard to order of action: If I target someone, and they have an action, they will still perform their action.

)

[Snow_Bunny]

Ah, I didn't want to do this, but I fear this may be the only way to bring something good for town other than a no-lynch.

I'm the doc. I protected imaginality, and thus I'm certain that he's town. That leave me with either DS/Faraday or the "masons."

If I'm killed tonight, well, I guess it falls in your hands town.

[Faraday]

wow i think that means snow bunny is telling the truth cos there was a night with no kill.

what were your other protects snow?

lol inafter birthday

[DrippingGoofball]

Ah, I didn't want to do this, but I fear this may be the only way to bring something good for town other than a no-lynch.

I'm the doc. I protected imaginality, and thus I'm certain that he's town. That leave me with either DS/Faraday or the "masons."

If I'm killed tonight, well, I guess it falls in your hands town.

Well, that probably solves the game them.

We lynch DeathSauce and the town wins.

[DeathSauce]

So we now know that the "masons" were searching for the player that blocked their kill. that there was no other real reason for them to back off of Fuzzy, and that there was indeed a player that prevented them from NKing , the evidence is clear. Can we lynch DG or Ell now?

[DeathSauce]

Missed DG's continued nonsense while I was typing. Thanks for continuing your theme of

non sequiturs

.

You do know that evidence is kind of important in this game, right? Especially after I've called you out on it like 5 times now?

[ortolan]

Thirty sixth vote count

DeathSauce (2): DrippingGoofball, imaginality
DrippingGoofball (1): DeathSauce

No lynch (1): Snow_Bunny

Not voting (2): Faraday, Ellibereth

With 4 alive it takes 4 to lynch or 3 to no lynch.

Deadline is the first of April.

Happy birthdays to imaginality and Faraday

[DrippingGoofball]

Missed DG's continued nonsense while I was typing. Thanks for continuing your theme of

non sequiturs

.

You do know that evidence is kind of important in this game, right? Especially after I've called you out on it like 5 times now?

I know I know

But I know my alignment and that of my mason.

And I thin imaginality is town.

That leaves you and Faraday.

I really don't need to look deeper than that.