Mini 945: Mafia in Bawlmer - GAME OVER

[Chevre]

1. Choice of wording, mah boi. Maybe, could, possibly? You're covering your arse in case someone decides to say that it is too early and that you are overreacting. Which you are. So let's take out that bit...

Of course I'm going to say could and possibly. I can't be for certain that SC and dramonic are scumbuddies, and plus, how would the lack of those words be better? For example, "This is a link between SC and dramonic, who are scumbuddies." How does that sound remotely good to you?

2. So, attacking someone means a scum buddy? In fact, I'd hardly call that attacking, merely making a point, from the looks of it. Plus, further link implies you think that this post is the first sign;

I don't even know how this applies. I mean there might (OMG INDEFINITE) be a link between SC and dramonic because SC very bluntly defended him.

based on the last 5 words. However, I have a different theory. Normal games are normal. SC is making the assumption that there is a cop, even though you can't be sure. However, by using the word "the" in his post implies there is one. So, therefore, I propose this. Due to the fact that by the wording of his post, he knows there's a cop...

SC is the cop.

Anyone have any problems with that theory?

Many.

1. Why would there be more than one cop in a game of this size? I think it's safe to assume that there is an average of 1 cop in mini games.
2. Let's say SC's wording was a slip, and SC is the cop. You just revealed the cop. Town wouldn't want to do that.
3. I've got a feeling that you're going to defend yourself by saying "I never really believed it, it was just to start discussion."

You quoted part of the answer, the rest should be in my defense of Cyberbob. I will gladly answer anything outstanding regarding dramonic, however.

I think it's going over my head, but I'll give it a shot. If you meant that because Miller is an easy scum claim (which it is, no disagreement there), then why would you say "be careful" rather than "IGMEOY" or something similar?

Whoops. Sorry, strike that part. I got the whole thread jumbled in my head. I feel really stupid.

Heh, it's OK. But it does feel extremely good to be on page 2 and be in the thick of a real game.

Vote: DiamondCrash

New list.

1. DiamondCrash
2. StrangerCoug
3. dramonic
4. Ophanim

This may seem like a big change for less than twelve hours, but with the ammount of activity we've had, I think it's perfectly plausible.

[Chevre]

Also: Dizzle, maxwellhouse, feel free to jump in at any time.

[StrangerCoug]

You quoted part of the answer, the rest should be in my defense of Cyberbob. I will gladly answer anything outstanding regarding dramonic, however.

I think it's going over my head, but I'll give it a shot. If you meant that because Miller is an easy scum claim (which it is, no disagreement there), then why would you say "be careful" rather than "IGMEOY" or something similar?

You're on the right track. Why I said "be careful" and not "IGMEOY" is because I didn't want to automatically call dramonic scum. Now that you mention it, though, an IGMEOY would have better represented what I was thinking.

[MacavityLock]

Whoops. Sorry, strike that part. I got the whole thread jumbled in my head. I feel really stupid.

Heh, it's OK. But it does feel extremely good to be on page 2 and be in the thick of a real game.

Disagree, it's not OK. Mixing up a thread after less than two pages bespeaks skimming.

Note to self: Remember this exchange if xvart flips scum.

[Chevre]

MacavityLock: You have to consider these first 2 pages. They're superiorily more proactive than any other game I've seen.

[MacavityLock]

Sorry for confusion. I agree with that part, productive couple of pages. It's the "Heh, it's OK" I have a problem with.

[Chevre]

So I'm not supposed to be friendly and understanding?

OK then.

[MacavityLock]

Well, you're excusing him for something that I'm not sure is a legitimate/townie mistake.

[Amished]

Vote Count 1!
It starts...

dramonic (1): Ophanim
Dizzle (1): DiamondCrash
Apayah (1): dramonic
StrangerCoug (1): xvart
Sidekick (1): MacavityLock
DiamondCrash (3): Cyberbob; StrangerCoug; Chevre

Not voting (4): Apayah; Sidekick; maxwellhouse; Dizzle

[dramonic]

Is the only reason I'm number 3 on your list because I claimed Miller?

[xvart]

SC - what is there to be careful about? The cat is already out of the bag and nothing can change that. Be careful about being investigated anyway? Be careful about all the heat that is going to come?

Disagree, it's not OK. Mixing up a thread after less than two pages bespeaks skimming.

I agree that it is not okay; that is why I felt like such a jackass; especially considering it was only page 2. I should have waited a couple hours before posting this morning. I understand and accept any suspicion that may be thrown my way for alleged skimming/misrepresenting.

xvart.

[StrangerCoug]

SC - what is there to be careful about? The cat is already out of the bag and nothing can change that. Be careful about being investigated anyway? Be careful about all the heat that is going to come?

dramonic needs to worry about not looking scummy, which seems to already be a problem if I look at it from his perspective.

[Sidekick]

Vote: Sidekick

for showing up to the thread and adding literally nothing to the game.

Oh the irony.

[Sidekick]

StrangerCoug why exactly did you defend dramonic?

Do you agree a miller claim has to be lynched at some point?

Why do you think he would have claimed miller?

[Apayah]

Promoting discussion, actually.

What could town possibly gain from said discussion? You're exposing power roles, doing the scum's job for them.

vote:Diamond Crash

Whoops. Sorry, strike that part. I got the whole thread jumbled in my head. I feel really stupid.

Heh, it's OK. But it does feel extremely good to be on page 2 and be in the thick of a real game.

Disagree, it's not OK. Mixing up a thread after less than two pages bespeaks skimming.
Note to self: Remember this exchange if xvart flips scum.

Can you explain what you're implying here? Are you suggesting a connection between chevre and xvart?

[dramonic]

Unvote
Vote: Diamond Crash

let's "promote discussion" then.
I think you are scum
discuss.

[StrangerCoug]

StrangerCoug why exactly did you defend dramonic?

I was less concerned about defending dramonic and more about attacking Ophanim's sudden jump on him. Yes, a miller claim is in and of itself information, but it does not take priority over other pressing matters. I believe DiamondCrash is at L-2, and for reasons that I support (and that he has yet to defend, so anybody putting him at L-1 had better give a damn good reason).

Do you agree a miller claim has to be lynched at some point?

I have no reason not to, but Day 1 is not that point.

Why do you think he would have claimed miller?

Lynch me if I know at this point. I have no read on him.

[MacavityLock]

Whoops. Sorry, strike that part. I got the whole thread jumbled in my head. I feel really stupid.

Heh, it's OK. But it does feel extremely good to be on page 2 and be in the thick of a real game.

Disagree, it's not OK. Mixing up a thread after less than two pages bespeaks skimming.
Note to self: Remember this exchange if xvart flips scum.

Can you explain what you're implying here? Are you suggesting a connection between chevre and xvart?

I don't like offhand dismissals of things I find scummy. If xvart flips scum at some point in this game, I will likely want to look at Chevre.

[Cyberbob]

The xvart thing seems to me to be a bit of a nothing, if xvart or Chevre die and flip scum then

maybe

it'd be a point against the other one but until then I don't think there's much in it. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a whole lot else to talk about right now.

(I will note that a couple of the votes on Diamond feel kind of lazy and bandwagonish however; the speed with which the wagon has grown is a point of mild concern)

[Dizzle]

Whoa, sorry guys, I totally forgot about this game after I confirmed.

I don't have much time right now to add anything substantive, but I do wonder why scumDiamond would out the possible cop instead of just NK'ing him.

[StrangerCoug]

Whoa, sorry guys, I totally forgot about this game after I confirmed.

I don't have much time right now to add anything substantive, but I do wonder why scumDiamond would out the possible cop instead of just NK'ing him.

The back of my head wants to yell, "Because it's a day start," but that answer is probably based on a misinterpretation of your question. It is food for thought—if I slipped cop, then DiamondCrash-scum would not be as scummy right now if he shut up about it and killed me.

[Apayah]

But I do wonder why scumDiamond would out the possible cop instead of just NK'ing him.

Yes, It is a bit weird. then again, if Diamond was town and thought SC slips cop why didn't he shut up about it? Or maybe try to defend him?.

Anyway, I'm just going to wait a bit till Diamond appears and explain himself.

[Konowa]

Vote Count 1.2

dramonic (1): Ophanim
Dizzle (1): DiamondCrash
StrangerCoug (1): xvart
Sidekick (1): MacavityLock
DiamondCrash (5): Cyberbob, StrangerCoug, Chevre, Apayah, dramonic

Not Voting (3): Sidekick; maxwellhouse; Dizzle

Prodding: maxwellhouse

V/LA:

[Konowa]

Please note that I have changed Rule #10. It previously stated

: "

If a player fails to pick up their prod within 72 hours they will be replaced.

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The new rule now reads as

: "

If a player fails to pick up their prod within 48 hours they will be replaced.

"

[Sidekick]

vote:Diamond Crash

If you think someone is a power role, why out it? Seems silly.
Diamond you should probably claimed because it looks like you're gunna get lynched here pretty quick.

Also dramonic's miller claim is a little too WIFOM for my tastes.