Stars Aligned II - Game Over!

[Ellibereth]

Can someone vote me so I can prove SADISM?

[dramonic]

Both of my sad, sad victims were empty-handed.
Not really surprising.

Also, if you look at Viking's rez list from yesterday you can see he "forgot" EK was also in danger of death ;p

[dramonic]

you mean paranoid?

[rewq455]

I'm all for lynching vikingfan today, and eliminating a murder may be optimal, but let's make sure we have the chart filled out before we do. The good thing about finding vikingfan is that he is probably the stray murderer who did in EK last night. The lack of other murders seems to indicate to me that our last ones could be among those who robbed graves last night.

I think that DGB is more likely to be a cultist than vikingfan.

[Ellibereth]

you mean paranoid?

I took PARANOID and SADISM.
So if you vote for me, and I vote with twich and there is still infraction, that confirms SADISM.
And if I vote someone who is at L-1 who hasn't voted for me with twitch that confirms PARANOID.

I think.

[dramonic]

ah, yes.

vote: Ellibereth

*twitch*

and stuff. I'm going to gain an infraction from sadism

Insanity Infraction

[VP Baltar]

I'm all for lynching vikingfan today, and eliminating a murder may be optimal, but let's make sure we have the chart filled out before we do. The good thing about finding vikingfan is that he is probably the stray murderer who did in EK last night. The lack of other murders seems to indicate to me that our last ones could be among those who robbed graves last night.

I think that DGB is more likely to be a cultist than vikingfan.

Yes, but at this point eliminating murders should be a priority as well since they would be closer to their wincon than cultists. If we determine someone is highly likely to be cult at this point, we could always have one of our really protown players stalk and murder (vig) them.

[animorpherv1]

@VP:

Any reason why you voted me? And why didn't you twitch instead of taking the Infraction?

vote:Elli

so he can prove Sadism.

Edited as per below post.

[animorpherv1]

@VP:

Any reason why you voted me? And why didn't you twitch instead of taking the Infraction?

vote:Elli

so he can prove Sadism.

EBWOP

[VP Baltar]

To prove my insanity obviously. And I voted you because your name was there. Stop being so paranoid.

[vikingfan]

Actually, that list I took was straight from iLord, I just copied and pasted. Go back and take a look if you like.

And I was rezzed last night (thank you to whoever rezzed me) and took twitchy.

vote ani

. I heard noise, needless to say. So that explains why evilsnail found me bloody.

Insanity Infraction

[vikingfan]

oh and due to ek's death, percy pm'd me to see who my new aversion target is and it's now VP.

[animorpherv1]

To prove my insanity obviously. And I voted you because your name was there. Stop being so paranoid.

Joke Answer: LOL You know I can't.

Serious Answer: Just making sure that you weren't trying something.

I wouldn't be able to do anything anyways, so yeah.

[vikingfan]

post 121 by iLord in iso, to be exact, is where I got it from.

[rewq455]

Actually, that list I took was straight from iLord, I just copied and pasted. Go back and take a look if you like.

And I was rezzed last night (thank you to whoever rezzed me) and took twitchy.

vote ani

. I heard noise, needless to say. So that explains why evilsnail found me bloody.

That is BS. You were already bloody when you were investigated because investigation comes before murder. Good try.

Vote vikingfan

[vikingfan]

Actually, that list I took was straight from iLord, I just copied and pasted. Go back and take a look if you like.

And I was rezzed last night (thank you to whoever rezzed me) and took twitchy.

vote ani

. I heard noise, needless to say. So that explains why evilsnail found me bloody.

That is BS. You were already bloody when you were investigated because investigation comes before murder. Good try.

Vote vikingfan

Go back and look again. rezz comes before investigate.

[rewq455]

the rezz does not make you bloody until after the murder though.

[kunkstar7]

I'm all for lynching vikingfan today, and eliminating a murder may be optimal, but let's make sure we have the chart filled out before we do. The good thing about finding vikingfan is that he is probably the stray murderer who did in EK last night. The lack of other murders seems to indicate to me that our last ones could be among those who robbed graves last night.

I think that DGB is more likely to be a cultist than vikingfan.

Actually, I believe that DGB is more likely a murderer due to the fact that SlySly was trying to get an alternative lynch on DGB instead of himself, so I doubt he would give up a second cultist to save himself.

Working on bringing E_K's chart up to date.

[iLord]

Just got back.

I have twitchy now - I Communed with VP and he's clean.

The VF's situation is pretty easily resolved (Rezzing does come before Investigating). Whoever rezzed him needs to claim.

I'll figure out other stuff in a sec - going to look back through the thread.

[iLord]

Vote: DGB

For twitchy.

Insanity Infraction

[animorpherv1]

Vote: DGB

For twitchy.

you should've twitched with that. It would've worked to.

[evilsnail]

This is the relevant bit from the rules:

Your target hears Noise. Any Resuscitate action targeting you tonight will fail, and the player who targeted you will not be notified of the failure. If you successfully protect them, you become Bloody,

and your target both becomes Bloody and gains an Insanity when the killing action (Murder or the Ritual) resolves

.

This says that the target and the rezzer become bloody

only when the killing action resolves

, so after Investigate.

Now, I suppose you could interpret the "and" differently, so that both the target and the rezzer become Bloody at the time of rezzing and then the target gains an insanity when the killing action resolves. That seems weird, but I guess you could read it that way.

HOWEVER, in the notes, the former interpretation is clearly emphasised.

If more killing actions target the player than there are players Resuscitating them, then the kill is not prevented,

though you still become Bloody when the killing action resolves

.

So, rezzing doesn't make you bloody until after the killing action and vikingfan was bloody before being rezzed.

Therefore, vikingfan is lying scum.

[iLord]

you should've twitched with that. It would've worked to.

How would that prove I have twitchy?

So, rezzing doesn't make you bloody until after the killing action and vikingfan was bloody before being rezzed.

Therefore, vikingfan is lying scum.

That looks legitimate.

Can Percy confirm that the rez target becomes bloody during the "Murder/Ritual Phase" and not the "Rez Phase."

[vikingfan]

I wonder if snail even investigated me at all. it'd be easy for scum (particularly cult) to throw out an investigation and hope it sticks. I find it amazing that someone like rewq is so quick to believe him without considering all the facts.

[iLord]

I wonder if snail even investigated me at all. it'd be easy for scum (particularly cult) to throw out an investigation and hope it sticks. I find it amazing that someone like rewq is so quick to believe him without considering all the facts.

Oh lol.

You've already conceded that you're bloody. What is this about?