Star Wars Mafia (Game Over)

[killa seven]

@Wreck Star: I think you are stretching things when you say that "he [bv] is trying to get better at lurking".

Actually, that's exactly what he said

Actually actually, that's not what Wreck or BV said. But I made the same mistake reading it:

"I'm trying to get better"
"he said he was trying to get better with the lurking"

Which is meant to mean he's trying to get better at not lurking. A bit much for Wreck to call it a misrep.

I'm sorry, didn't realize we were allowing functionally retarded people to play this game. I called bv310 out for lurking in every game and voted him, and bv310 responded with an OMGUS vote and said "I'm trying to get better", which OBVIOUSLY IS IN REFERENCE TO THE LURKING.

JESUS TAPDANCING CHRIST, A HYDRA WITH TWO HEADS AND ZERO BRAINS.

Actually only one of us posted that so YOUR CAPS ARE A LITTLE UNNECESSARY. My Brain is huge by the way. I've only provided the vote on you. I'll let my other half handle clarifying his own post.

Bigger bandwagon needed.

Unvote, Vote:Killa Seven

weeeeeeeeeee

[wolframnhart]

KillaSeven's posting reminds me of another players in an on going game.

[TwoHeadedCyclops]

-Explain how not voting in RVS is a bad thing.

Opinion:Not voting, at unnecessary times, is under-utilizing our full scumhunting abilities as town. Votes are a townie's only real tools.

No need for a theoretical argument im sure. It's all priorities.

-Are you claiming it is scummy when a player announces V/LA well before the game even begins and then is V/LA for the period announced?

No

-What do you think of my criticisms of the RVS wagons. If you disagree, post why. If you agree, then wth are you talking about?

They are logical enough.

[AlmasterGM]

PS, who IS in your hydra? I swear one of them has to be either MrSuave or kyle99.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

LOL.

[wolframnhart]

Dunno about the kyle99 part since i don't think i have played enough with him to know him well enough, but who the hell would make a hydra with Suave? That's signing your insta-lynch death warrant

[Kdub]

Toon Fighter replaces millar13.

Vote Count

d3x (2)

- AlmasterGM, semioldguy

farside22 (0)

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wolframnhart (0)

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ooba (1)

- DragonsofSummer

Kast (1)

- hp [leaves]

Toon Fighter (0)

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Konowa (0)

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hp [leaves] (1)

- Scott Brosius

CryMeARiver (0)

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Dragon Phoenix (1)

- CryMeARiver

Wreck Star (3)

- ooba, bv310, wolframnhart

killa seven (6)

- farside22, Vel-Rahn Koon, Dragon Phoenix, Konowa, danakillsu, TwoHeadedCyclops

Vel-Rahn Koon (0)

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AlmasterGM (0)

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Scott Brosius (0)

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danakillsu (1)

- FC Groningen

totallynotmafia (0)

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FC Groningen (0)

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semioldguy (1)

- totallynotmafia

TwoHeadedCyclops (1)

- d3x

DragonsofSummer (0)

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bv310 (1)

- Wreck Star

No Lynch (0)

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Not Voting (3)

- Kast, Toon Fighter, killa seven

22 votes available, 12 votes needed to lynch

Deadline is May 8, ~4 pm PDT

[Kast]

Toon Fighter replaces millar13.
...
I'll give millar13 another day or so to pick up his role PM before I replace him.

That might suck for Toon Fighter

Welcome Toon Fighter.

Fixed

[FC Groningen]

I like Kast's way of posting, it seems to sum up everything quite well and form conclusions. I'm not liking FC's posting, even if he's active. He seems to be walking circles about the subject of lurking.

I agree on the Kast part. Summarising seems beneficial to town to me, unless he'd tried to twist it somehow to make people look suspicious. Its formulated in a rather objective way, so I don't have a problem with it.

I don't see however how I am walking in circles, unless you mean that I'm consistant on in my opinion on activity. Its just the way it worked on a different site so I'll fare on that for a while.

Also, there isn't much to comment on yet in my opinion. There is the bandwagon on K7, but apart from the fact that he refuses to vote, I don't see any reason to lynch him and apparantly, this is what he always does.

In fact, I think we should be wary of the people that join the bandwagon now and try to push for a lynch so early.

unvote

because Dana posted, although its a vote out of nothing and partially fluff.

FOS: Twoheadedcyclops

for joining the K7 bandwagon this late.

[FC Groningen]

Ohh before I forget, there is of course the bandwagon on Wreckstar, but as far as I see it, its completely random, or based on the fact that he is acting rather hostile.

[Konowa]

FC's 107....I do not like the "late" qualifier in his post.

unvote;
vote FC Groningen

@FC: Why are you calling sixth on the wagon with twelve to lynch late?

[ooba]

@Wreck Star: I think you are stretching things when you say that "he [bv] is trying to get better at lurking".

Actually, that's exactly what he said

It's debatable either way.

Our wagon seems entirely like a RVS wagon with no basis behind it, which is fine

Did your initial vote on bv310 not have basis or purpose? It seemed like it did:

Vote: bv310

Pre-emptive lurking vote.

So what exactly is your point here?

[killa seven]

KillaSeven's posting reminds me of another players in an on going game.

This is my only account.

[hp [leaves]]

@VRK- If I vote Kast, he will react. If I vote k7, he will pretty much ignore my post.

@Kast- Votes in RVS have some information in them. They can be used for scumhunting, etc. No votes mean no information.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

@hp: Fair enough.

Do you feel that not voting is scummy?

[semioldguy]

Unvote; Vote: FC Groningen

I really dislike the way you unvoted. It has a small amount of foul odor.

If you are going to unvote, why not vote someone else?

If you are going to FoS someone, why not just vote him instead?

Could you shed some light on your insight behind why you did this the way you did?

[farside22]

Wreck Star: why did you vote bv310 for lurking over other known lurkers?
2headed: Why did you switch your rvs vote to another rvs vote?
Dragon: Why did you switch your rvs vote to another rvs vote? Why vote on the mindless BW?
hp: Why did you switch your rvs vote to another rvs vote?
wolf: Why did you switch your rvs vote to another rvs vote?
CMAR: Needs to stop talking about movies, music and tv and start scum hunting nano
2head: post 66 Why is kast poiting out nonsense worthy of an fos?
semi: post 71 I disagree I have found forcing players into activity to be very informative.
dana: why the vote on K7 with the word POST next to it?
Totally: Why ask a question that was asked already?
I really don't like the 2headed's bw vote on k7 at this point.
konowa: post 109 and a mindless bw vote after gettins some heat is not suspicious to you why?
hp: post 112 wouldn't you rather get a reaction to your vote? How does voting someone you believe won't react help?
Vel: How is HP's post fair enough?

Pinging my scumdar so far is 2 head, konowa, totally, dana, hp.

With that said

unvote:
vote: 2head

I don't like how he backed off during the pressure on his and voted on the mindless bw vote.

[semioldguy]

Have you previously tried forcing killa seven into activity?

[Kast]

@ooba/BV promising to stop lurking-
It's not ambiguous or debatable. Reck is completely in the right on this point. He called out BV for his lurking meta, BV promised to try to lurk less. BV is not succeeding in that attempt.

BV and Reck both clearly understood each other; there is absolutely ZERO reason for townies to twist either of BV or Reck's posts to excuse lurking from BV. It sounds like people are pushing a terrible case to discredit Reck.

@hp-

Votes in RVS have some information in them. They can be used for scumhunting, etc.

No votes mean no information.

-Italicized portion is true but misleading. Posts in RVS have some information in them. Votes outside of RVS have some information in them. Posts outside RVS also have some information in them. Could you rank the 4 in terms of most to least information (generally)?
-The underlined portion is a flat out lie. The primary information source for town is not voting but rather posting. If you think my posting has been deficient, call that out.

And in fact, vote history is most valuable when compared against the post history of the same player. Inconsistencies, changes and what prompt them, ties with other players; all these come about primarily from analysis of posts.

@FS-
It took me a moment to realize you were asking questions to each person and summarizing your thoughts. No questions for me?

[farside22]

Have you previously tried forcing killa seven into activity?

Nope, but I notice he is more talkative so far as he has been in previous games. Would you agree?

[farside22]

@FS-
It took me a moment to realize you were asking questions to each person and summarizing your thoughts. No questions for me?

I didn't find anything you said, did or stated to be questionable. I would like to know at this point with all the talks why you haven't placed a vote on anyone yet.

[Konowa]

@farside: Can you rephrase your question to me? I do not understand what you are trying to ask.

[farside22]

@farside: Can you rephrase your question to me? I do not understand what you are trying to ask.

Why do you find FC scummy for calling out the 2 head cycles vote? Did you not find his vote and timing a bit off considering the discussion? IF not why?

[Kast]

@FS-
-I generally take my time with voting, unless I see (what I think is) a very strong case. Haven't seen one yet.
--This game has a really long deadline, I see no reason to rush things.
--I'm also going on vacation for a week starting next Friday, so I'd actually prefer if the day goes all the way til May 8th.

-I have another reason that I do not wish to share at this time.

[Konowa]

@farside: Okay. That makes more sense. It is the way he qualified his "FOS" by saying that TwoEyes was late to the party. Which is why I asked him why he thought sixth on a wagon of twelve is late.

That said, I see nothing wrong with TwoEyes self-admitted wagon vote.

[Konowa]

I do not know why there are quotation marks around FOS??

I need coffee.