ZOMBIES! - Zombies take over for the win!!!

[SlySly]

Reck, has the back and forth all game between you and ABR just been one big bussing exercise?

[xRECKONERx]

Obviously. ::eyeroll::

[ODDin]

Actually, I can get Starbuck shooting evil - I was getting more suspicious of him myself. But, seeing he was the sheriff after all, it means he was telling the truth about reck targeting KMD (unless we have scum busdriver or something of the sort, but that's pretty farfetched). That would mean reck is a zombielord, and hopefully there are only two of those.

So,

vote: reck

Also, since Starbuck accounted for killing evilsnail, it means there's most likely another recruit around.

[SlySly]

Starbuck could be a ZL that targeted me the night Evils blocked him.

[SlySly]

Anyone else find it interesting how little ABR and EK have said about each other in this game?

[ODDin]

Sly: yes, she could be. There are other options besides reck. Still, it should be obvious that reck is the best lynch for today. For reck not to be scum, you need one of the following:
1) evilsnail, who actually was the sheriff as he'd said, lied about what he found.
2) There is a scum busdriver or similar role.

Option 1 is obviously ridiculous. Option 2 gets cut with Occam's razor.

Also, if we assume there were originally 2 ZLs and no other recruits, then:
N1 no recruit (most likely, since no vig has accounted for killing KMD, and having an SK doesn't fit with the rest of the nights)
N2 recruit (since yos was killed by Starbuck)
N3 no recruit (almost for certain, since ABR, a ZL, targeted CMAR)
N4 recruit (since evil was killed by Starbuck)

It means there's 1 ZL and 2 recruits. If we lynch town today, tomorrow there will be at worst 1 ZL and 3 recruits out of 11 players (I'm assuming there are no other killing roles around). That is, 4 scum / 7 town. That will be big-lylo (if scum recruit, the day after is 5/5). But it means we're most likely not in lylo today. Even if there's an additional recruit out there, it will still be 5 scum / 6 town tomorrow at worst.

So, there's absolutely no reason not to lynch reck. (Though lynching him would be the smart thing to do even if we were in lylo)

[SlySly]

Percy, see anything of interest during the night?

[ODDin]

I'm really disturbed by Sly not voting reck. Think he might be a recruit.

[ODDin]

Let me expand: not voting reck and not providing any reason not to vote reck after my post 2305.

[ODDin]

Also, notice posts 2303 and 2304: Sly desperately looking for people other than reck to vote for.

[SlySly]

You are paranoid Oddin. Your 2305 makes a lot of sense. I'm just willing to look at all the possible info gathered before placing my vote. I am very suspicious of Starbuck and EK. Obviously, what Evils said about Reck is ringing hard in my ears now and I am definitely not saying we should steer clear of lynching Reck.

[ODDin]

It's mafia with a cult, I'm supposed to be paranoid.

Being extra cautious and wanting to get all possible info gathered before placing your vote kinda goes against hammering ABR without even letting him respond to percy. And by "kinda goes against" I mean "180 degree shift in behaviour".

[SlySly]

Being extra cautious and wanting to get all possible info gathered before placing your vote kinda goes against hammering ABR without even letting him respond to percy. And by "kinda goes against" I mean "180 degree shift in behaviour".

Sorry, Percy's claim sure came off as sound to me and I was already quite suspicious of ABR.

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Let's review...

Night 1: I targetted Yosarian2, but didn't find anything out. I targetted him only because I thought he was town and figured my jailkeep ability might be useful.

Night 2: xReck, found out he targetted kmd Night 1.

Night 3: Starbuck, found out she targetted Yosarian Night 2 and no one Night 1.

I can

only tell you guys

that I targeted bv on N1 and ODDin on N2.

Starbuck has killed 2 town PR's and would have killed a 3rd townie, me, if Evils hadn't detained her. SB decides to kill Evils after being detained by him when he has become ObvTown. Why wouldn't SB target Reck instead of an ObvTown sheriff that could greatly benefit the town?

Reck has been spotted targeting 1 dead town PR. Reck claims to have targeted bv(now Percy) on N1. Is it possible that bv/Percy's ability somehow made Reck's investigation appear to be on KMD instead of the actual target? I doubt it.

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All I know is that ABR's idea of lynching someone else and dealing with the me vs ES situation tomorrow is extremely pro-town at this point because that way we can STILL lynch a scum suspect AND avoid having to accidentally mislynch a power role.

Or maybe he was trying to protect one of his fellow ZL's.

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I am currently fine with lynching either Reck or Starbuck as I see it likely they are both ZL's. I'm still highly suspicious of EK too because she is not playing anywhere near her usual game. I'm also not yet convinced that this game started with only 2 ZL's, which is why I am willing to have a fact finding discussion today before laying my vote down.

[Grimmy]

Vote Reck

My feelings on this havent changed

Im impressed with the ZL lynch the other day though!
So now I want to go back and see who swtiched from the Reck to the Pie lynch, and then see who was avoiding the Al lynch. Ive seen AL play in a scum role where he expressly told his mafia mates to bus the **** out of him if they had to. So it wouldnt surprise me to see that here at some point.

Grimmy

[ODDin]

If Starbuck is a ZL, it means we have no recruits at all, which gives us even more time.
That being said, how was evils obvtown yesterday?

[Starbuck]

I killed him because he was buddying with ABR for most of the game, and I found him much more suspicious than Reck.

[Starbuck]

I am not a recruit. I am a vig and I have now used my last shot.

If the town feels that it is paramount to be rid of me, I'm fine with that, but it would be a waste.

[ODDin]

... And what exactly prompted you to say that?

[animorpherv1]

I think, after the ABR lynch, Reck looks more pro-town than before.

[ODDin]

In vacuum, true. But what do you think about what evil, a now confirmed town sheriff, said about reck?

[Grimmy]

Starbuck could be a ZL that targeted me the night Evils blocked him.

This is feasible, because looking back at the night reports, it was always a POWER ROLE that got killed. the "limited shots" theory could be a cover for nights where starbuck may have gotten (or tried) for a VT to recruit.

FOS: Starbuck

Grimmy

[animorpherv1]

In vacuum, true. But what do you think about what evil, a now confirmed town sheriff, said about reck?

I thought I said somewhere before it was town on town.

[ODDin]

So, you think there's a scum busdriver?

[SlySly]

That being said, how was evils obvtown yesterday?

Starbuck targeted me and I didn't die because Evils was telling the truth. Starbuck didn't like Evils blocking her kills.

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Townie lynches...

McGriddle (11) Yosarian2,

Starbuck, xRECKONERx

, Wolframnhart, CryMeARiver, manho, CooLDoG, Elivis_knits, bv310, ODDin, Albert B. Rampage

manho (10) Pie_is_good, animorpherv1, bv310, CooLDoG, Diamondilium, Nobody Special,

Albert B. Rampage, Starbuck

, Yos, CryMeARiver

Pie (8)

Albert B. Rampage, xRECKONERx, Starbuck

, animorpherv1, Wolframnhart, bv310, CryMeARiver, SlySly

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Bussing....

Albert (8) Percy, SpyreX,

Starbuck

, ODDin, iLord, Wolframnhart,

xRECKONERx

, SlySly

Reactions to ZL buddy hammer...

That's L-1. Claim time, ABR.

The chance that

Reckoner

ABR is scum is too great. I want the hammer.

Fixed.

Hammer.

vote:ABR

Well, fuck the claim, I guess.

Wow Sly, not even gonna let the guy claim?

[SpyreX]

Ohh hay look at that evil was telling the truth I am shocked and awed.

Vote: Reck