Star Wars Mafia (Game Over)

[Kdub]

Vote Count

d3x (1)

- AlmasterGM

farside22 (0)

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wolframnhart (0)

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ooba (1)

- DragonsofSummer

Kast (1)

- hp [leaves]

Toon Fighter (0)

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ReaperCharlie (2)

- ooba, Scott Brosius

hp [leaves] (0)

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CryMeARiver (0)

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Dragon Phoenix (2)

- CryMeARiver, FC Groningen

Wreck Star (2)

- bv310, TwoHeadedCyclops

killa seven (2)

- Vel-Rahn Koon, danakillsu

Vel-Rahn Koon (0)

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AlmasterGM (0)

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Scott Brosius (0)

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danakillsu (0)

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totallynotmafia (0)

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FC Groningen (4)

- semioldguy, wolframnhart, Dragon Phoenix, totallynotmafia

semioldguy (0)

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TwoHeadedCyclops (0)

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DragonsofSummer (0)

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bv310 (1)

- Wreck Star

No Lynch (0)

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Not Voting (6)

- Kast, killa seven, farside22, Toon Fighter, ReaperCharlie, d3x

22 votes available, 12 votes needed to lynch

Deadline is May 8, ~4 pm PDT

[Wreck Star]

FC - If you scroll to the top of the page, there's a nice link up there entitled Wiki. Click it on it.

It will change your life.

Haha. +1



...but what's the point of being a hydra if you're just gonna use your real name anyway, Starbuck?

[Starbuck]

I was at work and catching up on all my games because it got slow.

I'm still not used to this hydra thing too. Maybe I just need to take this game off my watched topics list on my main account.

Apologies guys.

[ReaperCharlie]

FoS: DragonsofSummer

For saying he was going to catch up and post tonight (4 days ago), and never doing it.

[d3x]

FoS: DragonsofSummer

For saying he was going to catch up and post tonight (4 days ago), and never doing it.

Umm... you don't have a Vote on anyone, DoS doesn't have any Votes on him, you find scummy behavior, and you FoS him? Why not Vote?

[danakillsu]

I'm here. Will post soon with content.

[Wreck Star]

[Reck]

<3 Starbuck.

Vote: Scott Brosius

. Hope you don't mind.

PS,

Mod, please prod the fuck out of bv310.

[Kast]

Roughly caught up...

@Anyone asking why I claimed-
I answered this very clearly with all my reasons already. Pay attention. If you need more explanation or clarification, be specific.

@C3PO & R2D2-
I did not realize THC was actually C3PO until Wolf spoke up. I actually thought THC's initial claim of 3PO was some kind of scum attempt to legitimize a fake claim. With Wolf backing THC, I believe the claim.

ReaperCharlie reads like a noob. Pressing Wolf for more info isn't anti-town or harmful rolefishing because Wolf's post is an extremely clear indirect claim already.

hp is correct that it would be suicidal for scum Wolf to falsely jump in and defend a scumbuddy. I read this as hp trying to buy some town points since everything else he's pushing so far is a load of anti-town BS.

@My Claim-
I'm Han Solo. I'm a day vig. Anyone suggesting I might be lying about my ability needs to go back to the newbie forum. You don't lie about demonstrable activities, ESPECIALLY when you say you're going to demonstrate them.

Again, I already explicitly stated that I will shoot today and gave my reasons. If people want some input in who I shoot, then speak up with your reasons. If I don't hear anything good, I'm gonna shoot hp. You guys have something like 7-8 hours to speak up. If I hear something interesting or convincing, then I may extend this time, otherwise I'm shooting tonight.

@d3x-
I have a mixed read on d3x atm. His "suggestion" that town direct my shots seems to completely ignore that I already posted explicitly on the subject. If I had not done so, it would read as pro-town being helpful.

[Kast]

@FS-
Also, this was probably the only relevant/intelligent question asked about my role:

Do you know if you dayvig if the day will end?

The day will not end. We will see the flip and have information to use for the lynch for that day.

[Kast]

My posts may have come across a bit arrogantly and/or overly assertive. No offense meant.

I only have so much tolerance for "stupid" and I found way more than I can handle in that re-read.

[Scott Brosius]

Again, I already explicitly stated that I will shoot today and gave my reasons. If people want some input in who I shoot, then speak up with your reasons. If I don't hear anything good, I'm gonna shoot hp. You guys have something like 7-8 hours to speak up. If I hear something interesting or convincing, then I may extend this time,

otherwise I'm shooting tonight.

I assume you are talking about RL time, unless you forgot your claim of Day Vig

[danakillsu]

Yeah. Kast, hp's not a horrible idea. Definitely don't go for THC, I don't think he's the lynch today. (This is all assuming that Kast is what he claims to be, which he pretty much must be).
This game is confusing, with lots of votes flying around, not all of them backed up by much. I don't think I'm ready to vote for anyone.

unvote

[Kdub]

PS,

Mod, please prod the fuck out of bv310.

bv310 has been prodded.

[hp [leaves]]

Oh no. Kast is going to shoot me.

Should I claim or something?

[ReaperCharlie]

PS,

Mod, please prod the fuck out of bv310.

bv310 has been prodded.

Please also prod DragonsofSummer.

[Kdub]

DragonsofSummer has been prodded.

[ooba]

Pressing Wolf for more info isn't anti-town or harmful rolefishing because Wolf's post is an extremely clear indirect claim already.

This is w.r.t Wolf's role name. Do you agree with the claim for info on additional abilities of THC, Wolf?

If people want some input in who I shoot, then speak up with your reasons.

* Neutral on hp, only part of his play I didn't like was the "asking people too many questions leads them to contradict themselves".
* Tnm would be a good shot IMO
- Was not thrilled with his reasons for getting onto the FC wagon
- Don't like "it's not like I'm pushing for you to be lynched or anything" - just a vibe
- "Well I think you were right when you said it may be premature, I don't see the point in outing yourself as vig when he's up for the lynch anyway and you hadn't even voted for him yourself. Unless you're trying to take the heat away from FC." - either he hasn't thought about it properly or its POV problem (why vigging gets us an extra lynch)
I'f rather you let him have a chance to reply to this first before shooting though

[Kast]

@Scott Brosius-
Context is your friend.

@hp-
-Are you asking your scumbuddies for advice?
--If so, lol.
--If not, claim if doing so is better for town than not claiming. In Wolf's case, it was pretty clearly better since his mason buddy would be killed and the reveal would likely out him as the obvious mason partner anyway.

@Ooba-
Goodposting. It would be great to see something like that from each player.
-hp discouraging good scumhunting is extremely anti-town.
-Tnm suggestion noted.

[FC Groningen]

Maybe HP is trying to trap someone into asking someone to claim. I'll put HP in ISO in a moment.

[hp [leaves]]

I'm not discouraging good scumhunting, I'm discouraging

fake

scumhunting. The kind which you do, scum. Or should I say SK with double kills? Seriously, it fits your claim so well.

I'm not claiming. Me not claiming is way better for the town.

I don't think I can convince Kast to not shooting me (obviously because he wants to shoot a townie) so expect these to be my last words. Good luck town, win this and lynch Kast the SK.

I won't be posting after this so it would make no sense to delay the daykill. Do it now.

[hp [leaves]]

Maybe HP is trying to trap someone into asking someone to claim.

Hahaha that would be so funny accusing them of rolefishing.

[FC Groningen]

Apparantly, I already did that earlier. HP didn't make many posts after that.

Kast's posting style bothers me. It is like he wants to force us to contradict ourselves.

You may prove me wrong, but I thought one of the best ways to find scum is to force people to slip up/contradict themselves.

Also, after putting HP in ISO, I can't say I'm very impressed with what you posted so far.

HP

Post:
1: Policy lynch on K-7.
2: Random lynch? On Wreck Star
3: Lynch on Kast for not voting
4: explanation that his vote on Kast would draw some reaction where K-7's lynch won't. Did you forget about your vote on Wreck Star or something?
5: Comment that Kast's posting style disturbs you for a crap reason.

HP

6: stands by his point that "anyone will contradict himself if pressured enough". Vote on Wreckstar was supposed to be random. Comment that THC didn't look like scum to him. Not explained why, except that the THC was supposed to be build on "moot points". with the Mason claim, its viable that he is right, but not particulary a town move.
7: Agrees that the mason claim could be genuine. Suits with his earlier statement.
8: No idea what he meant with that.
9: Brings up a reasonable point about the mason claim.
10: The "claim" post. A post that could be explained both town and scummy?


Conclusion, some questionable actions. Did not add much content so far however and the things he mentioned were quite obvious in my opinion.

[ReaperCharlie]

[quote="hp [leaves]I'm not claiming. Me not claiming is way better for the town.

I don't think I can convince Kast to not shooting me (obviously because he wants to shoot a townie) so expect these to be my last words. Good luck town, win this and lynch Kast the SK.

I won't be posting after this so it would make no sense to delay the daykill. Do it now.[/quote]
Ok I'm confused by your reasoning here. If you die, won't we know your role anyway? If so, how is you NOT claiming better for the town in any way?

Scenarios:

1. [GOOD] You don't claim. Kast kills you. We find out you're scum. Yay

2. [BAD] - You don't claim. Kast kills you. We find out you're town. Sh*t

3. [GOOD] You claim (unconvincingly). Kast kills you anyway. You're lying scum.

(Kudos to Kast for not believing you.)

4. [BAD] - You claim (unconvincingly). Kast kills you anyway. You're actually town.

(What the @#$^, hp! Learn how to claim better!!)

OR

5. (?) You claim (convincingly). Kast doesn't shoot you. You're alive but 'in the open' (as whoever you claim to be).

According to your assertion that claiming would be bad for the town, fine, we'll say that option 5 would be bad.

But it's still better than you dying,

AND

Kast wasting his kill on a townie (you).

And if you claim and then Kast kills scum, then good, you are freeing Kast to shoot scum instead of you. Either way, claiming seems like the best option at this point, unless there's something about your role that totally trumps everything I just said, in which case, ignore me entirely.

But somehow I don't think that's the case.

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm not claiming. Me not claiming is way better for the town.

I don't think I can convince Kast to not shooting me (obviously because he wants to shoot a townie) so expect these to be my last words. Good luck town, win this and lynch Kast the SK.

I won't be posting after this so it would make no sense to delay the daykill. Do it now.

ebwop - This was what I was quoting for last post. mb

[FC Groningen]

[quote="hp [leaves]I'm not claiming. Me not claiming is way better for the town.

I don't think I can convince Kast to not shooting me (obviously because he wants to shoot a townie) so expect these to be my last words. Good luck town, win this and lynch Kast the SK.

I won't be posting after this so it would make no sense to delay the daykill. Do it now.

Ok I'm confused by your reasoning here. If you die, won't we know your role anyway? If so, how is you NOT claiming better for the town in any way?

Scenarios:

1. [GOOD] You don't claim. Kast kills you. We find out you're scum. Yay

2. [BAD] - You don't claim. Kast kills you. We find out you're town. Sh*t

3. [GOOD] You claim (unconvincingly). Kast kills you anyway. You're lying scum.

(Kudos to Kast for not believing you.)

4. [BAD] - You claim (unconvincingly). Kast kills you anyway. You're actually town.

(What the @#$^, hp! Learn how to claim better!!)

OR

5. (?) You claim (convincingly). Kast doesn't shoot you. You're alive but 'in the open' (as whoever you claim to be).

According to your assertion that claiming would be bad for the town, fine, we'll say that option 5 would be bad.

But it's still better than you dying,

AND

Kast wasting his kill on a townie (you).

And if you claim and then Kast kills scum, then good, you are freeing Kast to shoot scum instead of you. Either way, claiming seems like the best option at this point, unless there's something about your role that totally trumps everything I just said, in which case, ignore me entirely.

But somehow I don't think that's the case.[/quote]

Either he flips town and then I trust he had reason not to do it, or he flips scum and then all of this doesn't really matter because the claim would be false anyway. Again, this sort off looks like rolefishing to me, but since HP will probably die anyway (unless Kast changes his mind again) I don't see how it would benefit you, even if you'd be scum.

[bv310]

Okay, caught up now. Reck, you need to calm your storm. The only other time I've seen you this jumpy and anxious has been in Halo where we were scum together. Wonder what that could mean here? Hmmm....

Either way, I'd like to throw my two cents in here. Scott Brosius in iso has as many posts as me, and has contributed even less. A rolefishing accusation is the only scumhunting he's done so far, and it's an easy claim for scum to make.

Unvote, Vote: Scott Brosius