Mini 949 - Rainbow Robot Unicorn Attack! - Over

[dramonic]

On a more interesting note, I'm all for a change of tide onto Robo!

[farside22]

The biggest thing that didn't fit for me was the name claim here

Robot Unicorn Watcher

Asking you about Elli wasn't a redirection, or I would have actually posted a case on him - it was to point out your hypocrisy in choosing to renew an attack on me rather than focus on someone else.

You mean like when you bring up something about someone but don't say anything to a person that does the same?

VasudeVa wrote:
L-2, I believe. Claim tiem now?

Wow, asking for a claim at L-2, without any confirmed additional votes? Rolefishing much? Fortunately for you that's apparently not scummy this game, and Vi will probably attack me for calling you out for it.

Where was this when Seacore did the same thing again?
The rest of the claim where the info goes to someone else in the game is interesting.

unvote:
vote: Seacore

This is a temp vote till I get to work

[ElectricBadger]

Question for ElectricBadger. You didn't say anything along the lines of "Unvote me you morons" after claiming, but simply assumed you were going to die ("Catch you guys in another game"). Why claim, then? We would find out everything except the Robot Pony part after you died.

The potential to have a mod-confirmed townie or out counterclaiming scum in the future (re: the PRP) may help town and probably wouldn't be in my reveal.

Where was this when Seacore did the same thing again?

Same place as when hp[leaves] did the same thing. Asking for a claim at L-1 is bad play when there's no one who's willing to hammer, and in Robo's place I wouldn't have responded, but enough people do it as a knee jerk reaction that I don't see it as a particular scum tell anymore.

Asking for a claim at L-2 is much less standard.

[farside22]

Where was this when Seacore did the same thing again?

Same place as when hp[leaves] did the same thing. Asking for a claim at L-1 is bad play when there's no one who's willing to hammer, and in Robo's place I wouldn't have responded, but enough people do it as a knee jerk reaction that I don't see it as a particular scum tell anymore.

Asking for a claim at L-2 is much less standard.

And then hp stated the following right after and Vi was the one to say something to HP:

Looks like I counted wrong. Don't mind my L-1 paranoia.

Unsee, See ElectricBadger

I have a deadline in another game today. My case on seacore will have to wait till after I finsh reading a few things in there.

[Vi]

Breaking my self-imposed "no Mafia at work" rule to say:
There is no reason to lynch E-Badger's claim Today. None.

[Socrates]

I totally believe Badger's claim. My vote seems to be currently resting on the next best alternative wagon, so that's good.

Reading when I can.

[LlamaFluff]

vote RC

I feel dirty for doing it though

[Ellibereth]

Badger is probably town.

Unvote

I'd prefer any of hp, Seacore, Dram and Tony to Robo. We have a bit more than a day. Anyone up for any of those?

[dramonic]

vote RC

I feel dirty for doing it though

but dirty is hawt
You'll feel cleaner when he flips scum.

[Percy]

Look everyone!!!
It's the

VOTE COUNT UNICORN!!!

Socrates

opens his eyes and sees

Robocopter87!

Seacore

opens his eyes and sees

Robocopter87!

ElectricBadger

opens vis eyes and sees

Robocopter87!

dramonic

opens his eyes and sees

Robocopter87!

LlamaFluff

opens his eyed and sees

Robocopter87!

Vi

opens vis eyes and sees

Robocopter87!

VasudeVa

opens vis eyes and sees

ElectricBadger!

hp [leaves]

opens his eyes and sees

ElectricBadger!

animorpherv1

opens his eyes and sees

Vi!

farside22

opens her eyes and sees

Seacore!

Robocopter87

and

Ellibereth

have their eyes

shut!

The deadline for today's lynch is

8:00pm (site time) on Tuesday the 20th of April

. You can view a countdown to the deadline

here

.

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[farside22]

Seacore:

Okay, got my PM,

I'll answer your questions soon, Farside.
But first, I'll just post my immediate thoughts.

In the games that I've read and seen, Drama and Ani nearly always look like scum, and I've seen nothing that exceeds their usual scum-scent..

At the moment, I like Robo for the kill. I haven't seen anybody really defend him, and I find that interesting, but that won't tell me much until he flips.

Llama seems as town as anybody can on Day 1.

Tony was absent and hasn't seemed scum since he got back

I'll have a look see at Mae and Omni now.

Why did you find it interesting that no one defended RC and why did that make him lynch worthy?

Issues I have with Seacore:

votes for RC here saying he's scummy for reason's meantion, not help and seems to think there would bein information in the lynch.
Why is this poor. 1) not making a proper case. 2) saying he's not helpful when there is about 4 players lurking hard core so pointing to one unhelpful person is null (3) All lynches have information again null

post 234 considering the number of people lurking I see part of this reasoning as poor as lurking is easier to get away with then being active.

post 269 Ask for a claim before placing him at L-1

post 274 Doesn't say what was scummy about RC's reaction or what actions he found scummy

post 317 (a) is lazy and (b) was stated by others before him.

post 322 has concern's over a hammer with someone he thinks is scummy? This is nonsensical. Scum hammering means we have a scum suspect for tomorrow to lynch hammering without a claim = scummy.

post 386 Doesn't seem to be trying hard to look for scum and sits on his vote with nothing more said.

post 399 more following of a bw. So far still no case of his own to speak of.

post 422 more no reasoning and the promised I will have more on why Vas is scummy has disappeared.

post 425 hypocritcal point against Seacore for saying RC is going for the easy case. Really? Pot this is kettle, I have some news for you there.

post 569 I want to lynch this guy more after this statement alone and his concern for putting someone at L-1. Give me a break.
I mean really if you look at Seacore in iso there was a question about his concern for placing someone at L-1 and then wants to give RC shit for not hammering before a claim and when RC never stated any suspicion on EB in the first place! UGH@@@@@@
Lets not forget I haven't see one case that Seacore has done that didn't follow someone else.
My vote is staying on Seacore.

[Seacore]

I'll get around to responding to that case when I can, in the mean time

@Mod, Vi changed vote to RC

Fixed, thanks. ~Mod.

[Ellibereth]

Now I'm wondering if Amished's tell about replacements that I never 100% got and I need to go check exactly what it was again but I think someone here should have at least heard about applies to Seacore's omni comments.

As for Omni, there's nothing to say. Clearly somebody who went "OMG Unicorns! Just like on my quilt cover!" and then realised that this game is complex. I see no scum tells (yay) and no town tells (boo!)

The only thing of any substance was his comment on the game design and the special win condition. This could just have easily come from town trying to help, scum trying to work out the condition and/or someone who has that win condition trying to mislead/bread crumb.

In summary, it could mean anything or nothing. I will say it's not a possibility that I thought of, or still think of. And I won't say anything else about it because now is not the time to play out guess the mod.

[Seacore]

Still working on getting a full response to Farside's case, but a quick response to the "asked for RC to claim early" issue.

1) I'm still learning the ins and outs of claims. The site where I'm from doesn't have them as such a staple as this site.
Someone (I think it was Vi) made the comment here that a claim is basically for the potential hammerer to say "I'm about to kill you, tell me why I shouldn't"
Nobody's ever put it like that to me before and it makes sense. But until then, I was of the impression that it was just something you got people to do at L-1. I was willing to throw down that L-1 vote, so I thought it was justified.
2) I think I was slightly warranted in my concern about a quick hammer, due to Dramonic saying that he definitely would hammer. Whether or not that would have been a good thing is a separate issue. The argument "that would have given us an easy lynch target day 2" doesn't necessarily hold with self-destructive anti-town players. And Dramonic has been playing a little like one of those.

[Vi]

@Ellibereth: Amisheduardo's tell has to do with replacements criticizing the play of the people they replace, nya.

Seacore's post that you quoted doesn't quite do that so much as say YOU SAW NOTHING, NOTHING I TELL YOU. I'm not sure where that falls in terms of Amished's theory, but it is a lot of words and more than a bit unnecessary.

Anyway, I would gladly trade this Robocopter wagon for an animorpher or maybe Seacore/VV wagon. The major issue with jumping wagons now is that we will likely have to either ignore whichever claim is made by the wagonee or No Lynch.

[VasudeVa]

Ack, stop. Like, two/three scum are on that wagon. It has all of the symptoms of a scum driven wagon. That said I'm not exactly sure what the aforementioned symptoms are. But if I did, that wagon would have all of those! Would expound if someone asks, although I still need to get my thoughts in order. I'll gladly vote for anilurkerscum/seacore than support that wagon. In fact, I would!

First, checking for aniwagon support.

vote: ani

for lurking like a boss and being unhelpful as opposed to the usual being active and unhelpful.

[Vi]

O Great Vasudius, who are the scum on the Robocopter wagon?

[Robocopter87]

EB is not lying. No scum could make a role up like that. It is kinda out there but it still makes sense.

If you guys lynch me, remember how untowny like seacore was and the way he acted towards me.

Seacore and Vi wanted a flavour claim?

Robot Unicorn, or Vanilla townie in regular Mafia terms. Or in Layman's terms, a good guy with pretty colors.



Also, Vas, that last post was just dumb. No offense but why the heck do you think that some random Aniwagon will form? Seriously.

@Socrates
Howdy! I'm the popular lynch. You want appetizers or you ready to go?[/joke, people need to learn some humor]

[Robocopter87]

Oh, and

I'll get around to responding to that case when I can, in the mean time

Right after I'm dead and you get a to nightkill EB? Well, whatever works for you

[VasudeVa]

TM-Soc/Dram/Possibly Seacore. The whole thing about it being a scumdriven wagon has something to do with it staying strong for so long. In my limited experience: Town-wagons either hammer quickly or don't stay too long coz they aught to be wagoning someone else after pressure. It's something like that, does that make sense? I'm still fine with the Robo lynch but I will never support what I think is a scumdriven wagon.

[LlamaFluff]

Oh wow RC is so town right now its not even funny

unvote
vote ani

lurking now is inexcuseable

I am also willing to go with an TM or ani deadline lynch.

[Vi]

Seacore and Vi wanted a flavour claim?

Robot Unicorn, or Vanilla townie in regular Mafia terms. Or in Layman's terms, a good guy with pretty colors.

The Sample Role PM is in the first post, but thanks~

I'll take this wagon, sure.

Unsee: Robocopter87

See: animorpherv1

(L-4)

Will look more closely at VV 619 in a few.

[Robocopter87]

I see, you are OK with killing me but dislike the members of the bandwagon? So that means you vote an enitrely random other person. Great logic.

[Robocopter87]

Whoa sudden Bandwagon. I'm in.

[Robocopter87]

vote:Ani