Mini 953: Star Control: Alliance Initiative (Over)


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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:19 am

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Players needed to lynch: 6


cruelty
- 2 - Gammagooey, Dry-fit - (L-4)

Players not voting: animorpherv1, bouncy.bouncy, CF Riot, cruelty, Kast, Merkabah, Papa Zito, Plum, Porkens



I can pick you up, Gamma.

And yeah, we need to get rid of the Chenjesu asap.
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:28 am

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Well, that was weird. I thought that someone would die. Apparently not, and their ship acts as a shield.
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:30 am

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animorpherv1 wrote:Well, that was weird. I thought that someone would die. Apparently not, and their ship acts as a shield.
More words plz.
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:36 am

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animorpherv1 wrote:Well, that was weird. I thought that someone would die. Apparently not, and their ship acts as a shield.
More words plz.
:roll: You haven't played Mafia with me, have you?

Also, my Engery is still full, nothing interesting happened to me. I feel so left out.
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:40 am

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animorpherv1 wrote: :roll: You haven't played Mafia with me, have you?
:roll: No. I also don't care about meta, so you can go jettison that out into space too.

There are very good reasons for you to cough this up. Get going.
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:43 am

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i sent porkens a shielding plasmoid.

it's my fault he didn't get any energy (i didn't think about him requesting any when i sent the plasmoid); i was trying to protect him.

the plasmoid redirects all night actions from the target to the plasmoid.



my vote on rbt was meant as pressure, i didn't really feel the urge to explain this as it sort of dilutes the purpose of the vote.
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:51 am

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Papa Zito wrote:
animorpherv1 wrote: :roll: You haven't played Mafia with me, have you?
:roll: No. I also don't care about meta, so you can go jettison that out into space too.

There are very good reasons for you to cough this up. Get going.
cough up what? I thought I was fairly obvious.
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:52 am

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Huh. So what happens if a plasmoid gets hit with a kill?
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:05 am

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it says that
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actions that target the player are redirected towards the plasmoid instead.

so i assume it sucks up the kill.
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:41 am

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What made you want to protect Porkens specifically?
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:58 am

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Oh, I'm kinda tarded, sorry Gamma. I guess I couldn't USE my new ability AND pick you up.

Gamma: If you hammered again, would you get the same ability?

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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:06 pm

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Kast, you've been more in the background than I've seen in previous games (including the first SC). What is the cause of this? Is it an intentional decision? What do you think of animorph and bouncy.bouncy?

I think papa should pick up gamma.

Gamma, you turned around on cruelty quick...but I'm not so sure why you are reading that action as obviously town. Explain?
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:07 pm

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*in the background more than I've seen...



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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:11 pm

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Why ya gotta make me doubt things about you Porkens?
Role PM says new abilities.
And I think you could do both, but if it goes something like

Abilities gotten on hammer
-Ability 1
-Ability 2
-Ability 3


It might be that the abilities are always gotten in the specific order for each player hence we would both get ability 1 (energy reducer) after hammering the first time, so if you pick me up and we both have the same ability, it would only be useful if it applies once for each of us.
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:18 pm

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Merk-It might be a fakeclaim thing, but I don't think he's making it up. I'm still waiting on why he chose Porkens in particular, but I would expect that if he was scum he would only claim to have docced him and blamed the energy loss on someone else instead of taking claim for both.
Papa-Can I get your thoughts on the ability?
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:18 pm

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Porkens wrote:I didn't get any plum juice :(

my power is now 0/3


were you on either of those ships gamma?
Okay. If anyone did anything which would have prevented me sending some juice to Porkens, I want to know now. If no one responds, scum did it. Because you should have got a wopping four units, man; I certainly lost the amount I was supposed to.
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I agree.

Continuing to read here, looks like Cruelty might have blocked my energy shift to Porkens. I guess it's bad on his end, but it's nowhere near a big deal here, and in exchange for possibly exposed scum . . .

Hmmm. Zito, I was planning on something else, but yeah, pick Gamma up if you would.

...

Cruelty, why protect Porkens? Looking at you, you had a neutral read on him.

I'd lynch Dry-fit or maybe Cruelty at this point, want to let things stew in my mind first though.
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:28 pm

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Porkens- Nevermind, take the hammer today, got some clarification from SpyreX and you should get it no matter what else we decide to do.
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:38 pm

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@Merkabah-
Not sure what you mean. I wasn't active on the weekend and never am. I was active throughout D1, and AFAIK D2 is just barely getting underway.

@Cruelty-
Problem with your claim.
1.) Battery Manipulation Effects

2.) Player Location Manipulation Effects (Jettison / Retrieve / Etc)
3.) All other effects as per NaR
ALL battery manipulation happens PRIOR TO anything else. Your plasmoids don't sound anything like battery manipulation and would fall under category 3. This is a hard rule that I have asked for mod confirmation from D1.

If you are town, you better ask Spyrex why this happened, he was extremely and explicitly clear on this issue when I asked him by PM. If he messed up, he really needs to say something to that effect.

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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:42 pm

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Nice nice nice catch, Kast.

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Then let us have some answers.
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:42 pm

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To be a bit more clear, I asked about battery manipulation and roleblocking/redirecting. Roleblocking and redirecting happen as part of 3 unless they are also battery manipulation OR player location (ie. teleporting).

The plasmoid sounds like either a protection or a redirection, but doesn't do either player re-location or battery manipulation.
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:46 pm

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Yerp, that's pretty cut and dry.

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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:49 pm

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@Kast - Also, I guess I didn't realize you werent' around on weekends. But apart from that I normally get a town leader vibe from you. I guess I just don't have that as much here. That being said, if cruelty flips scum you're basically confirmed in my book so it's not worth worrying about atm.
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:53 pm

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Kast, I'm pretty sure you're awesome.
I am equally sure that I suck for missing stuff similar to this in two games in a row (this and Reverb).

An attempt at an explanation would be nice, but I'm fine without one.
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PS- THIS IS L-1 PLEASE ALLOW PORKENS TO HAMMER UNLESS YOU ARE SCUM.
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:55 pm

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Some modifications to previous night actions may be occurring.
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:55 pm

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Wat.
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