Pick Your Power III: A Brave New World

[Ellibereth]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to Lynch : 9

Sando

- 1 -

mb53

- (L-8)

mb53

- 1 -

Sando

- (L-8)

Dramonic

- 7 -

Fate

,

Ellibereth

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Socrates

,

Pomegranate

,

CryMeARiver

,

Hoopla

- (L-2)

Players not voting - 7 - 12keyblade, Dramonic, Faraday, Parama, PranaDevil, Zang, Zoiaum

Try again.

[DrippingGoofball]

BTW our "case" against you is at least as good as the "cases" you just made. Whatever it is.

[DrippingGoofball]

I think we're lynching Dram because he can't make a decent case against scummy players even when cornered at L-1.

[Parama]

I want the hammer, that's why I unvoted

[dramonic]

Zoiaum is town if Prana is town.

???
@DGB: Except I'm at L-1 without a case, while they've 0 vote with one, albeit "weak" by your own word.

[Parama]

Oh, dramonic isn't even reading the thread. gg.
I thought that was common knowledge by now.

[dramonic]

Call it a chain reaction of thinking Prana was scum until 15 minutes ago.

[DrippingGoofball]

Call it a chain reaction of thinking Prana was scum until 15 minutes ago.

He's not scum, and you don't have a back up scumbag to hand out to us.

TERRIBLE

[Sando]

My apologies for my absence, ANZAC day basically wiped me out for two days, fun times though.

I'm just re-reading now.

Just some thoughts, I've already brought it up, but how much store do people actually put into a wagon-analysis of the Porkens wagon? It was on guaranteed scum, there was no real reason for scum to stay off it, quite the opposite if they can submit their buddies actions if they're away.

Are we waiting for people to check in for night actions?

[DrippingGoofball]

We're waiting for you to hammer Dramonic.

[Sando]

We're waiting for you to hammer Dramonic.

Thanks for avoiding the question, that was quite useful. I haven't finished re-reading and want to know if we are missing people and need to give them a chance to submit actions.

[DrippingGoofball]

We've waited a long time now.

[Pomegranate]

I think we're lynching Dram because he can't make a decent case against scummy players even when cornered at L-1.

Dram, this. Try, if you think that they're scum. Because town try.

This is a game that gets swept up by the PRs(, I would know at this point). But nothing replaces good old scumhunting. So not scumhunting is scummy.

Also, my tracking results: They don't mean that much. People thought that you were scummy yesterday; that's why I tracked you. And though manho was controversial, you shot him. So... it's possible you're town. But I think you're scum.

[dramonic]

Dram, this. Try, if you think that they're scum. Because town try.

If town tries, where is the case against me? Saying I dont make a case at L-1 is an invalid argument since to get there there would need to be an actual case or PR result that sent me there. As it sits there is none, and I find it quite irking to be this close to death without anything to defend against.
All you blabber is give us a scumlist. Weither you like it or not, if Prana wasn't proven town by his softclaim I'd have shot him 3 times before even considering shooting Manho. I missed the softclaim earlier, so I gathered he must've been scum because his play is, at least by my perspective, downright awful from any perspective. Zoaium has been active lurking, so he got scumpoints too. We've all had strong gut feels, I have one against Sando

And then you just pop in saying "Wake up, they're confirmed town". It's not like it's impossible to disbelieve and later forget about a post. I cant just create a case on another trio out of thin air like that, I'm one person wanting to spot anormality in the playerlist and at least I try to provide a case, even if it's been disproved. You guys are 7 voting me and you're unable to make a single post that has anything that is even a weak case on me.

At most there are three scum on my wagon. Where's the freaking attempt at scumhunting? I don't see it.

[Pomegranate]

I'm not asking for a scumlist. I'm asking for some general reads maybe, some views.

If you're a townie, you ought to look for scum. I'm not asking you to respond to the case on you- it's not really consolidated. But who do

you

think is scum? Why? Any comments, questions, general points to make on the thread in general, or any posts?

If you think that someone is scum, great. I probably won't criticize you for it. But your four line ir so scumlist on the other page didn't cut it. If you think that someone is scum, try to persuade other people. And trust me, what you've said so far won't persuade anyone.

Because saying that there;s no case against you doesn't make me want to unvote. But some real scumhunting... that might work a little better.

[Sando]

So...
I'm the UBU, now even-night vig.
I shot manho because he was scummy, with a pro-scum role, with requests from multiple players to shoot him down.
In retrospect, I should've shot Prana.
Did I mention he's scum?

Dram, why would you vig a redirector? And why would a scum-redirector not have redirected away from the person submitting both of the scum kills? Why would you not think that a scum redirector would redirect your kill away to a townie?

[Pomegranate]

Well Sando, unless I'm not following something, no one knew that he was the UBU, therefore the new even-night vig.

[Sando]

Well Sando, unless I'm not following something, no one knew that he was the UBU, therefore the new even-night vig.

Huh? I'm asking why as the new vig, did he vig the redirector. What's that got to do with whether we new he was the UBU/Vig or not?

[Pomegranate]

I think you said that if the redirector was scum, (dram though) he would have redirected dram. Am I mistaken?

[Sando]

I think you said that if the redirector was scum, (dram though) he would have redirected dram. Am I mistaken?

I was under the impression a redirector redirected all the things directed at 'X' to 'Y'? This is my first game with one, am I wrong?

You seem to be saying they basically change 1 persons target?

[Sando]

Reread the role, you're right.

[Pomegranate]

Now I'm very confused.

Oh well.

[Fate]

Hey guys dram just slipped can we kill it yet???

Prana didn't softclaim until today, so "I woulda shot prana 3 times before manho but his softclaim saved him" is
1. Bullshit, dram shoulda sent in a vig on prana
2. Double bullshit, there was 0 chance manho was realclaiming scum redirector.

Scum have failed massively this game. Please let us proceed to our ultimate victory so we can discuss what roles scum shouldve gone for with the picks they got and why.

Vote now Sando, catch up tomorrow. I guarantee you'll be alive tomorrow, role-related info.

[Sando]

I thought it worked like this:

Redirector targets Sando to redirect to Pom. All actions that would have targetted Sando now target Pom.

Turns out no, I was wrong.

[Fate]

And btw we do have a PR info on you dram, your claim of vigging manho. You might as well have claimed a guilty on yourself