Star Wars Mafia (Game Over)

[ReaperCharlie]

@ DoS: Thanks for posting. Finally.

ReaperCharlie has an extremely convoluted post with one good reason for voting Scott, and that is rolefishing.

Really? Maybe if you paid attention to the thread instead of just lurking for weeks and coming in with some halfway-reasoned post because you haven't read the topic yet, you'd see more of what I was talking about. Scott has been acting scummy since Day 1, and only now are people noticing. Actively lurking for weeks, rolefishing, relying on meta references in defense of other players, crummy-sounding arguments. I am almost convinced that Scott is scum; and I'll eat my hat if he's not. ...I'll eat ALL of your hats. I'm not the only one who sees it.

ReaperCharlie's defense of dana is noted. But the point about timelines is valid.

I wasn't

defending

dana in my post, I was merely pointing out the timelines, like you said, and noting that once she read everything, she unvoted CMAR. I have seen many cases in previous games where two townies think they have a case against each other, and

As a matter of fact, before CMAR's yoda claim and breadcrumb reveal, dana was acting

quite

suspicious, pushing a lynch for someone who's obviously claimed town without much pressure at all. And now, she is lurking. How convenient.

So either CMAR is a freakin' rabbit, where one or two people exert so much pressure in his mind that he somehow can't wait to bust his load and reveal his Yoda claim,

or

he's scum (with a similar modus operandi). Obviously, I tend to think it's the former, because it makes no sense for him to reveal so unexpectedly, otherwise. So I asked questions to them both (CMAR/dana) and I am still waiting for an answer.

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@Scott

587

- Thank you Scum.

Yep. I noticed that too. If either the Scott or dana bandwagon takes off, and one of them flips scum, we should lynch the other the following day - hopefully killing two birds with one stone.

@RC- What's teh deal with the 'Note'? I'm not asking you to give the details, but why are you making vague Notes for us to read without any information in them?

Just letting people know that I'm not tunneling on the CMAR sitch; I have my eyes and ears elsewhere as well. Happy scumday btw! <3

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Semioldguy is beginning to ping on my scumdar... brightly.

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@ mod: VRK also hasn't posted for 2 weeks. Prod/replace him, please. I can't get a proper read on someone if they lurk to the point of invisibility.

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I also need to appologize for my lack of activity. Sorry everyone.

Apology accepted... for now. Disappear again, though... *shakes fist*

[Kdub]

Vote Count

d3x (0)

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farside22 (0)

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wolframnhart (0)

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ooba (0)

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Kast (0)

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Toon Fighter (0)

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ReaperCharlie (0)

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CryMeARiver (0)

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Dragon Phoenix (0)

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Wreck Star (1)

- bv310

Slicey (0)

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Vel-Rahn Koon (0)

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AlmasterGM (0)

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Scott Brosius (3)

- FC Groningen, ReaperCharlie, d3x

danakillsu (4)

- farside22, CryMeARiver, DragonsofSummer, Wreck Star

FC Groningen (0)

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semioldguy (0)

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DragonsofSummer (1)

- Dragon Phoenix

bv310 (3)

- Scott Brosius, AlmasterGM, wolframnhart

No Lynch (0)

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Not Voting (7)

- ooba, Kast, Toon Fighter, Vel-Rahn Koon, semioldguy, danakillsu, Slicey

19 votes available, 10 votes needed to lynch

Deadline is May 22, ~10 am PDT

Vel-Rahn Koon has been prodded.

[Scott Brosius]

Yep. I noticed that too. If either the Scott or dana bandwagon takes off, and one of them flips scum, we should lynch the other the following day - hopefully killing two birds with one stone.

Setting up tomorrow's lynches doesn't sit well with me. Seems like scum-planning more than anything.

As for my defense of dana, I am simply saying (as someone else said as well) I offered that in my experience, dana always acts very scummy regardless of role.

[ReaperCharlie]

Yep. I noticed that too. If either the Scott or dana bandwagon takes off, and one of them flips scum, we should lynch the other the following day - hopefully killing two birds with one stone.

Setting up tomorrow's lynches doesn't sit well with me. Seems like scum-planning more than anything.

Um. No. Listen to yourself. You are straight up refusing to explain how your actions could be pro-town in any way. Nearly every time someone says you are scummy, you just respond back with a post that ignores their point, and make a comment about why

they

are scummy! Why not quote the part of my post that listed the scummy things you've been doing:

Scott has been acting scummy since Day 1, and only now are people noticing. Actively lurking for weeks, rolefishing, relying on meta references in defense of other players, crummy-sounding arguments. I am almost convinced that Scott is scum; and I'll eat my hat if he's not. ...I'll eat ALL of your hats. I'm not the only one who sees it.

...and actually

address

the accusations brought against you? Stop beating around the bush.

As for my defense of dana, I am simply saying (as someone else said as well) I offered that in my experience, dana always acts very scummy regardless of role.

Dana seems more

frantic

to me than anything. whether that's scumfrantic or townfrantic, I don't know at this point because she isn't trying to nail CMAR to the wall any longer. I don't know her reasons for bulldogging on that for so long, but I am still very suspicious of her for not letting it go earlier. It makes no sense for CMAR to claim that much if he were scum.

But you are defending her because of... her meta?! That's basically pointless! Any half decent Mafia player can act differently from one game to the next. The only reason

I

spoke up at all for her is because she was getting nailed for not believing CMAR's breadcrumb. This was obviously a false premise, because as soon as she saw the breadcrumb she unvoted.

If

you have any

valid

defense for any of this (which I don't think you do)... speak up now.




@ CMAR and dana: You should still probably answer my questions. Preferably sooner than later. Thanks a mil.

[ReaperCharlie]

ReaperCharlie's defense of dana is noted. But the point about timelines is valid.

I wasn't

defending

dana in my post, I was merely pointing out the timelines, like you said, and noting that once she read everything, she unvoted CMAR. I have seen many cases in previous games where two townies think they have a case against each other, and

Whoops, forgot to end a sentence in my post at the top of the page, it should be this:

ReaperCharlie's defense of dana is noted. But the point about timelines is valid.

I wasn't

defending

dana in my post, I was merely pointing out the timelines, like you said, and noting that once she read everything, she unvoted CMAR. I have seen many cases in previous games where two townies think they have a case against each other, and

they are at each other's throats so long that most of the town ends up believing one of them are actually scum. Then, the real scum take this opportunity to wagon and/or hammer them.

Not actually saying this is happening in this particular circumstance, but it's relatively common.

My apologies.

[farside22]

Not convinced just adding to scum list.

Which is now more than half the players in the game.

Actually I have more town reads then scum reads but thanks for paying attention (sarcasm)

Mod: prod Bv310 please

@reaper: I'm personally on the fence with Semiold. He's under the category of either paranoid townie or scum. I notice he has not voted anyone since the day started which I find odd at this point.

[Kdub]

Mod: prod Bv310 please

Done

[farside22]

Doing a read of people quickly. Ran out of time so posting on those I was able to read first:

d3x - post 197 I think d3x may need a better radar but somthing of note that so far everyone he had on his radar had some town role. post 203 not a fan of asking why he should join a wagon.
mmmm
post scum 471 I don't believe for a second you are that much of a newb to ask these type of questions to CMAR
Why did you feel that it was thrown together in desperation and didn't make sense?

I at least detect some scum hunting and question from d3x that others *cough* dana, scott, bv* lack.
Can't say I'm a fan of some of the things he did say and hey I see he from Burbank CA. Hey neighbor I'm from Reseda
Okay sorry out of goof mod. I'm not sure about d3. Almaster said he's really good as scum but you can see I have no high points on Almaster to take that into consideration.


wolframnhart - obvious town from mason claim and flip of mason partner


Vel-Rahn Koon - Needs more post!

AlmasterGM - missed most of day 1.

@Slicey - His target was also a neutral survivor who bulletproof (1 or more shot) armor would make a LOT of sense on. I can't see scum pulling that kind of gambit. Only possibility in my mind is he somehow communicated with HP and knew he was bulletproof so he could pull that stunt ... which doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a third party.

Why did you say this? Do you really think it?
Why are you voting for bv? Why are you defending DOS?
All I really see from Almaster is giving feed back and not really scum hunting. I don't like his vote on the bv bw at this point and he seems to be coasting by.


bv310 - little to nothing said. Since day 2 started voted for Wreck Star for some read he had on him.
Sadly this is typical bv behavior. Usually as scum he trips up on something right now I will just put him under useless

[bv310]

Posting in response to prod. And since you brought it up Farside, the "read" on Wreck is more of the "Guilty investigation" variety. Not sure why I didn't say it before.

[wolframnhart]

Posting in response to prod. And since you brought it up Farside, the "read" on Wreck is more of the "Guilty investigation" variety. Not sure why I didn't say it before.

Probably because you weren't posting at all, it's due to that that makes me have a hard time believing you, though on the flip side I don't know if you would do this as scum and out yourself so early.

[semioldguy]

Hooray!! More partial claims at times that don't warrant claiming!!

@bv310
Care to share more or why you thought it a good idea to come out with this now?

[CryMeARiver]

Posting in response to prod. And since you brought it up Farside, the "read" on Wreck is more of the "Guilty investigation" variety. Not sure why I didn't say it before.

Okay, this is crap since in your first post you said based off an ISO read. Please state your flavor name (this is actually warranted in his case).

[CryMeARiver]

And in response to everything else, hold those thoughts. Huge essay due midnight last night and big presentation tomorrow. Will answer everything in a day or two.

[Slicey]

I think CMAR should also full claim.

derp just saw the claim. Should read the whole thread before I post >_>

And look at this, people. This guy says CMAR should full claim almost two pages after he has. If I'm scummy for saying I don't believe CMAR's claim at the same time that he reveals his breadcrumbing (and I obviously don't think I am), this guy should be ultra-scummy for telling CMAR to claim after he already has (and I obviously don't think he is), since both were just mistakes about what CMAR had already said.

Oh boy, where to start with this post.

First, look at the timestamps. The posts are 3 minutes apart. I saw d3x's post and it said exactly what I was trying to say. I continued to read the page and saw CMAR's claim. Thus I made the other post to say I'm dumb and didn't read the whole thing quickly.

Second, this doesn't make me scummy. It was a mistake. Mistake doesn't equal scummy, at least not in this case.

Third, this is like basically admitting that not believing the claim, which is what you originally did, is scummy. Thus by calling me scum you're calling yourself scum. Except that I made a mistake. You didn't.

At this point I'm still uneasy on CMAR. I don't want to lynch him right now, but I'm still keeping an eye on him.

[Dragon Phoenix]

Unvote DragonsofSummer

Unfortunately that's going nowhere. I would prefer more clarity from bv310 before I vote for anyone else.

Tomorrow I will have more time and do a player by player analysis.

[ReaperCharlie]

And in response to everything else, hold those thoughts. Huge essay due midnight last night and big presentation tomorrow. Will answer everything in a day or two.

... *sigh* ... Good luck.

When you return, feel free to look up my questions for you, and answer them.

Just don't forget... because I

won't.

[ReaperCharlie]

Posting in response to prod. And since you brought it up Farside, the "read" on Wreck is more of the "Guilty investigation" variety. Not sure why I didn't say it before.

Um... pretty sure this is an all-around WTF. Please start explaining any time now.

[ooba]

Posting in response to prod. And since you brought it up Farside, the "read" on Wreck is more of the "Guilty investigation" variety. Not sure why I didn't say it before.

Are we in a dethy variant by any chance? .. Have a tough time believing this claim..

[Wreck Star]

[Starbuck]

Posting in response to prod. And since you brought it up Farside, the "read" on Wreck is more of the "Guilty investigation" variety. Not sure why I didn't say it before.

Elaboration would be awesome, especially because of what you said earlier today in this post.

In iso, you read as even scummier than normal. Trust me on this one.

So if it was an "investigation", why would you hold back and not push this "information" sooner? Right now, I disbelieve bv because of the conveniency.

[Wreck Star]

[Starbuck]

I left off a line when I copied and pasted...



I also disbelieve him because I know our role.

[semioldguy]

@Starbuck
If bv310 is softclaiming having a result on you... what's stopping you from putting a vote on him over our current vote?

[Starbuck]

Nothing.

I just want to hear what he has to say first.

Reck had already voted him earlier with our vote. I unvoted bv and voted dana.


Both of them have been suspects of mine throughout the game.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Responding to prod. Sorry all. I got a cold last week and between that and allergies I haven't felt like doing anything. I'm going to go back to the start of Day 2 and just do a running commentary to get caught back up. Expect something by tonight hopefully since I'm going on vacation tomorrow.

Mod: I'm going to be V/LA Tomorrow through Monday.

V/LA is noted

[danakillsu]

Second, this doesn't make me scummy. It was a mistake. Mistake doesn't equal scummy, at least not in this case.

LRN2RD!!!!!!! I specifically said in that post that I didn't find you scummy!
bv310 strikes me as a bald-faced liar. I'm not a LAL type of guy, but since he claimed an investigative role, he might as well tell us his role NAME (let me be very clear about this as I was before). Nothing but his NAME.

Actually I have more town reads then scum reads but thanks for paying attention (sarcasm)

Wow, man. Way to take a joke...

[danakillsu]

Wow, man

EBWOP:
Perhaps: Wow, woman? The avatar of a Male is slightly confusing...