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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 11:53 am

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?

There's a LOT of variables in that statement that make an answer fairly useless.

However, all things aside and under the assumations that a.) we never saw a doc flip b.) we never saw a big daddy flip c.) soras played like this all game and d.) there was no confirmed players left. I'd probably throw that hammer down.

Of course this is an academic discussion and all.
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 12:03 pm

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Call it a trap if you want, but the answer I was looking for treads along the lines of gaining knowledge of other town roles, seeing what matches up, seeing if any dead players were doctors, comparing soras to whoever else was in lylo with you, etc., and
then
judging soras around the information collected. There's evident mafia thought-patterns to be seen with unrelaxed, rash, opportunistic actions.

The answer you supplied does not exhibit signs of a rational [town] thinker wanting to clear probtowns & condemn probscums, nor does it consider the other factors at hand, especially the epic seriousness of lylo and the "do-not-fux-up" mentality that is expected; moreso your answer has signs of a hasty [scum] thinker, uncaring what
else
can be used to clear others as [likely] town so long as others can be perceived as scummy by the majority in order to create mislynch options.

There are a few exceptions.. Namely, we've got CJMiller & DeathNote. But you're not them, bv.. And I can't remember the last time they were allowed to make it into lylo. I overthink a lot, and this question was loosely related to determining how far out ahead you plan or think; mainly to determining if you're any more scummy.

Alright, so, one more question if you'd please: In good enough detail, could you explain the contrast between your reasons for FOS'ing me and you not lynching doctor claims [D1]? I'll go ahead say that one contrast is me believing the claim entirely whereas you would rather see what happens to him overnight.




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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 12:08 pm

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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 12:10 pm

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I would've answered, but magic shows are no fun when you already know the tricks.
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 12:15 pm

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I'm not really liking bv at the moment, but I like Toon's response to pressure less. Happy with my current voting situation.
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 12:19 pm

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Kise wrote: There are a few exceptions.. Namely, we've got CJMiller & DeathNote. But you're not them, bv.. And I can't remember the last time they were allowed to make it into lylo.
Can anyone explain what this means?
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 12:32 pm

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It means they're terrible in general. They are the exceptions to the rule of
likely town players who would make rash decisions in lylo
. Also, they will literally believe a doctor claim in the lylo stage of a 12 player game with an open set-up and no docs. In other words, they (as town) don't take into account all known elements when making decisions on who they view is town and mafia. Point I'm getting at is I don't see bv as town.

Here is how your grade is comprised, bv:
- Playstyle = 10% [Town+Maf]
- Connections = 15% [Town+Maf]
- Motives/Thought-Pattern = 25% [Town+Maf]
- Actions = 50% [Town+Maf]

Here are your grades, bv:
Playstyle:
50%
|
50%

Connections:
89%
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11%

Motives:
38%
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62%

Actions:
08%
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92%


Here is your overall town grade, bv:
31.85%


Here is your overall scum grade, bv:
68.15


I went through an iso scan to measure every "critical" moment that affected scoring.
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 12:35 pm

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Women lie. Men lie. Numbers don't.

Vote: bv310


IT'S YO GOOOTTIIIII
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 12:44 pm

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Why the hell not, he used colors and stuff.

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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 12:46 pm

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Wait, I made an error in the scum grade.... forgot to add the percentage symbol.

68.15%****
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 12:47 pm

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Ftr, your hypothetical question was pretty weak scumhunting.

Also ftr, I've seen Spyex make rash decisions at lylo as town before heheheheh
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 12:48 pm

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How do you feel aboub your 100% caught scum now that I'm voting him Kise? I thought I was one of th reasons you didn't like he TF wagon
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 12:50 pm

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Didn't matter. bv was already way beyond the scum scale.

And uh.. I wasn't suppose to use red. :oops:
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 12:54 pm

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68.15% caught scum.

As for your 2nd question: yes, you were one out of 4 or 5 of the reasons I didn't quickly jump on TF. No matter, with both bv & TF, I won't ignore possibilities of bussing or (as of yet unproven) rival scum.
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 12:56 pm

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Wait a damn minute, what do YOU know about scumhunting?
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 1:13 pm

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Hey look. It's later and I'm posting stuff.

at the time when I posted that I didn't see a reason for a Bv wagon, the iso only comprised #0-9

#0 Votes Horrordude.
#1 'please don't'
#2 catching up
#3 promises to post
#4 Votes MPR for poor iso read

#5 Content!

#6 refutes Horror's claim of a Bv lead PL (actually Rvs)
#7 Catch up post, Fos's Sora
#8 Fluff
#9 Votes TF

since then

#10 Flavor discussion on why Big Daddies =/= Docs
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 1:20 pm

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Chronopie wrote:#4 Votes MPR for poor iso read
That was a hilarious moment in time.
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 1:38 pm

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So care to point out the ultra scummy parts of the iso (That I must have missed) that makes you willing to make a 1:1 trade?
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 1:42 pm

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Kise wrote:Wait a damn minute, what do YOU know about scumhunting?
I know its a compound word that firefox refuses to accept is real >_>

Townhunting > Scumhunting
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 2:10 pm

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Woah, more posts! I'll catch up now.
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 2:26 pm

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NachoMamma wrote:Vote: CMAR
If you aren't voting for him after you read this post, you had better have a DAMN good reason.
I still like my vote on TF... It's not a crackhead wagon to me!
Toon Fighter wrote:I knwo I have been lurking, but I have been busy, and I bet I am not the one with less posts on this game.
Looking at your ISO, you've conveniently posted about once every 3 days... the minimal amount required to avoid prod.
Red Coyote wrote:I wouldn't have jumped back on sora personally. I think everyone who did is suspect.
Why?
Toon Fighter wrote:People ask what is WRONG with the wagon on me, I ask, what is RIGHT.
After your post 603, so much is right.
Spyrex wrote:I'm actually kinda liking TF's bizarro world posting.
Not enough to not lynch him yet but its a start.


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Kise wrote:Anyone else care to tell of what'd they do with soras in lylo, doc claim and all?
Idk right now... I'll have to think about that.

If there are more questions, I'd love to answer them, but for now, more TF votes please!
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 2:44 pm

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Sorry, there's three levels:

Active pro lynch this sucker.
Apathy lynch him for lack of the above.
Adamant against the lynch.

TF is definitely smack in the middle.
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 5:51 pm

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can we lynch toon now? if there's a case on bv, someone direct me to it, otherwise we are just wasting time.

this has been another active lurking post from don_johnson. :)

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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 10:48 pm

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Can we get a vote count?


I need to see which wagon's the biggest so I can get on it.
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Tue May 04, 2010 11:18 pm

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It's mine, I think. I have 7 votes -.-
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