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Post Post #1375 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 6:17 am

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Papa Zito wrote:Wow you sure dropped the venom quick. But I can't link that to a Wiki article so I guess it doesn't count.
Yes you can: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

:)
Papa Zito wrote:Oh yes. I'm saying we should lynch the scum no matter how often they post.
I've seen people basically summing the case against him up as a lurker lynch - those were the people I was responding to.
Papa Zito wrote:What's funny was everything was cool until I dared to call you scum. (you can put that in ALL CAPS if you want)
Well uh yeah because shocker! Townies can and do disagree with each other about cases and scumtells and all that stuff. It happens a lot.

(Townies calling each other scum for disagreeing also happens a lot, unfortunately)

Vote Count 4 - 06: Lynch


curiouskarmadog - 4 - Iecerint, Budja, SocioPath, Kmd4390
Anon -
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- SpyreX, Jack, Papa Zito, Starbuck, J-Scope
Iecerint - 2 - curiouskarmadog, xvart
Cobalt - 1 - farside22

Not Voting (5): MehPlusRawr, Cyberbob, Anon, Cobalt, ooba

With 17 players alive it'll take 9 to lynch and 9 to no-Lynch.

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Post Post #1376 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 6:24 am

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Cyberbob?

Still town.

Lets not get sidetracked.
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Post Post #1377 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 6:37 am

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My vote hasn't moved. But I'll give a vig a dollar to put a bullet in his head.
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Post Post #1378 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 6:37 am

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I have no idea what the case on Anon is. Summary pl0x.
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Post Post #1379 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 6:41 am

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Papa Zito wrote:My vote hasn't moved. But I'll give a vig a dollar to put a bullet in his head.
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Post Post #1380 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 6:56 am

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MehPlusRawr wrote:I have no idea what the case on Anon is. Summary pl0x.
Can you summarize why you don't know what the case on Anon is for me?
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Post Post #1381 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 7:03 am

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(Vig when I said people who start with C I didn't mean cyberbob that's a bad shot tia.)

BAD ZITO.
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Post Post #1382 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 7:08 am

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Looking over the player list I feel pretty good about a lot of people. Except I notice starbuck now. Tons of posting day 1, active lurking since then.
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Post Post #1383 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 7:22 am

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SpyreX wrote:(Vig when I said people who start with C I didn't mean cyberbob that's a bad shot tia.)

BAD ZITO.
Wait for the Anon flip.

@Jack: Yeah, Starbuck's townie read has been steadily eroding as of late.
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Post Post #1384 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 7:23 am

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btw, was SPS destroyed or not?
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Post Post #1385 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 7:24 am

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SpyreX wrote:Cyberbob?

Still town.
I was going to say I was thrilled that people were finally coming around on him. Don't rain on my parade. :(
2TOWN4TOWN example wrote:SpyreX seems suspiciously townie. He is basically trying to look town! So he is scum, since only scum has to look town and it comes perfectly naturally to real town players.
Is craplogic because you can lazily make this argument about almost any town player in any game. Note that it's not 2TOWN4TOWN if there's a specific difference between town and townscum play indicated.
2SCUM4SCUM example wrote:"So I did something scummy, so what? Do you think that scum would REALLY do something that scummy? It would get them lynched!"
This was CKD's response to my case. He said his avoidance of the SPS wagon in favor of a wagon on a player he'd never mentioned all game actually made him townier, since scum would never do something so scummy. But that's bullshit for obvious reasons.

SPSwagon worked out well on a secret scumtell, and CB's post makes me feel good about this one.
Unvote; Vote: Anon
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Post Post #1386 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 7:29 am

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Starbuck wrote:
Vote: Anon
Dear town,

I notice SB is floating by and just as useless if Anon is lynched please consider her lack of posting as well.

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Post Post #1387 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 7:38 am

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random question..

PZ, have you ever been in a game with more than one vig?
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Post Post #1388 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 7:43 am

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curiouskarmadog wrote:PZ, have you ever been in a game with more than one vig?
Yup.
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Post Post #1389 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 7:51 am

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Cyberbob wrote:
I don't think CKD is scum for the softclaim; there's no question that it was stupid as hell but at this point it looks like he'd almost be happy with dying because that would mean proving certain people wrong (which is anti-town as shit for a PR to do but scummy? IMO no).
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Papa Zito wrote:CKD claims this isn't the case.

Give a pro-town reason for CKD doing this.
If that's not the case then yeah his behaviour is scummy.

@CB
2 questions (more to come depending on the answers to the 2nd.).

1.) If it was scummy, why not a vote?

2.) Why is the action scummy?

@PZ,

you ask CB to list a reason why my action was protown...given that you have no clue what you are talking about in regards to my role OR lack there of...you really cant think of ANY reason why it could be protown move?

I want you to provide a reason why it isnt protown (I understand it is all a guess, but you obvious think my action is scummy, so i want to see your line of thinking in the matter).
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Post Post #1390 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 7:53 am

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Papa Zito wrote:
curiouskarmadog wrote:PZ, have you ever been in a game with more than one vig?
Yup.
you know I am going to ask for a link right?...played 60+ games and I dont recall one with 2 protown vigs. Sure it is possible though, that I have played in one...but curious if you have...or at least seen one.
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Post Post #1391 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 8:00 am

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Jack wrote:
MehPlusRawr wrote:I have no idea what the case on Anon is. Summary pl0x.
Can you summarize why you don't know what the case on Anon is for me?
As I understand it, SpyreX said he had a SUPER SECRET SCUMTELL on Anon and then everyone else was all "YAY WAGONTIME"

I haven't liked Anon, but I have no idea why there's a wagon on him and no cases.
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Post Post #1392 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 8:39 am

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curiouskarmadog wrote:I want you to provide a reason why it isnt protown (I understand it is all a guess, but you obvious think my action is scummy, so i want to see your line of thinking in the matter).
It isn't protown because, if you are town, then asking for a wagon/lynch on yourself doesn't further the town's goal of lynching scum. You should be pushing at suspects instead.

Man is my Wiki out of date. Link: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11588

Kinda wondering where you're going with this.
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Post Post #1393 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 8:52 am

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i'm okay with an anon lynch. i think cobalt is a better lynch.

Vote Cobalt


things are starting to improve. the day away increased the number of town reads by like 3 times the number.

don't really get the cyberbob hate.

need to fully read over the day I missed.
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Post Post #1394 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 8:52 am

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oh shit i missed a whole page.
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Post Post #1395 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 8:55 am

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Jack wrote:Cobalt doesn't seem to be posting in other games either.
hm? i've noticed him posting quite a bit in certain games.
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Post Post #1396 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 2:04 pm

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Ok, lets just rewind some votes, super secret scum/town tells and start things again.

First, my office has tons and tons of shit to do and even though thats not the whole reason why Im neglecting my ms.net responsibilities in all games, it truly is no helper.

Second, I quickly read the thread for the last 30 minutes. I plan a constant reread while I catch up and play the question game with all of you.

Third, so far all you need to know of me is the following things:

- Unbreakables TM is very likely masonry so far in the active side, read active. I have no problems with bob, path, scope, spyrex, zito and farside. At least I trust my meta reads on both Spy and Zito, people I can easily read. On the other side, Im no fan of starbuck and budja, the less active on the bunch, so if there is something I missed on why these guys are here Id like one explanation asap, tia.

Basically I endorse the implementation of the service. As usual, there is prob one pesky scumbag on this group but he is going to be forced to follow the group, make suboptymal decisions to please UAwrath and etc.

- Of the people left, I submitted a list of "If I were a vig" and a list of "people I dont want in endgame". No significant changes, for the exception of one new comer and now with MOAR comments:

3. Kmd4390 - I need to evaluate him after all that lolclaim stuff that once again is not indicative of alignment. So far, kmd lurker with sketchy claim is scum IME.
4. Starbuck, hi. - scumlist and reasons for your vote in your following post, tia.
6. Steam-Powered Shovel, bye.
7. MehPlusRawr - seriously.
11. xvart - Elscouta's scumpartner, wtf why isnt this guy destroyed yet?
19. Budja - lack of protowness combined with lack of protowness.
15. curiouskarmadog - in lights of the softclaim at 3 votes, I say die asap and climb to the "if I were a vig" list.
20. Cobalt - cobalt is spamming the mind screw 4 game. But you were very lonely on that "people I dont want in endgame" list, so get over here.

Lets not wagon this anon guy and start hunting for the real scumz.

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Post Post #1397 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 2:07 pm

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I say full speed ahead on the Anon wagon.
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Post Post #1398 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 2:08 pm

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Why is xvart linked to Els? If Els is scum (likely), it would appear that he is Elfscum with SPS.
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Post Post #1399 (ISO) » Wed May 05, 2010 2:11 pm

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J-Scope wrote:
Vote: Anon


This is my (Jah's) top choice. Good wagoners and gut vibes, but also I don't know how Anon went after Els for that weak RVS misinterpretation of post 4 while not seeing anything suspicious with xofelf-Sens Fan fight in his post 622. I would think that someone scumhunting on the wavelength to find Els scummy would also have some bad feelings about xof/Sens. Them both being town looks like a gift horse to scum, just leave it be and reap the rewards.
fyi, the els hate comes from my theory of an els-xvart scumpartnership that its best explained here:
Anon wrote: Elscouta: saying hi to your scumbuddy gives you just enough points for your slow and painful death. I dont see why would a townie joke with that considering the posterior mess it could create. But lets assume for a second you are just silly and thought it was cool enough to "claim" scum in your first post, just for the lulz. Lets assume you are a decent scumhunter and that you are not going to OMGUS people that are/were voting you for a VALID REASON....

Bzzt.

I was wrong.
Elscouta wrote:I don't like Anon and Drippereth because they have been both attacking me and xvart, with very little reasoning.
Fail.

Interesting question: why was xvart vote okay with you, Elscouta? Why is anon and dripereth oh so oportunistic, but he isnt?
Xoxelf-sens fight was stupid as hell and was in no way a 1-1 fight, that is IMO, a more valid approach from a scum perspective.
J-Scope wrote:I don't know if he could be scum with SPS (who better be scum), because Anon had a lot of suspects and SPS just happened to be the wagon he apparently had to settle for day 1. I don't like his case because it seems to fit Anon's play too.
Anon wrote:Steam Powered caught my attention with iso 3. I find people who use jokes to support a game stance, inherently scummy. Cyberbob in iso 3 uses personal experience to back up a position that cant be generalized.
This coming from the guy who, after being told Elvis was not in the game, came back with another player read on elvis.
Joke that supports a game stance : scummy.

Joke that supports an obvious nongame stance : lulz.
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