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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 4:48 am

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farside22 919 wrote:Vi: How do you know the poison kills someone? Are you saying it's a delay kill where we know someone's color is taken but they live thru the day?
*slow nod*
This implies that the last kill ignores poison - i.e. if there is one scum left and the last poison grants their Win Condition, said scum doesn't have to wait for the poison to work. But that will be a while in coming.
farside22 919 wrote:What about the theory on the front with the wincon? I had believed it to be serial killer over a mafia win con.
I think flavorwise it's fair to say that whoever's responsible for the colorless machine aka the poisoning is the one with the Win Condition.
I think at this point it would still be best to assume we have three scum.
farside 919 wrote:Soc stated he had a town read. My gut tells me he's scum and he's special.
I'm assuming you're referring to Seacore here?

Y'know, I think I'll grant your wish.
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No comment on what hp is saying. I would rather VV :dealwithit: himself.
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 5:09 am

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@Vi: yes I'm talking about seacore. I notice Elli's vote and list of suspects. He list Seacore first but vote Soc.
Things like that bother me and get my scum senses going.
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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 6:51 am

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farside22 wrote:I don't see it as a scum slip unless your trying to say that VV didn't know before Ani flipped and you think he is pointing out how many colors town has.
That's what I'm saying.
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Post Post #928 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 7:11 am

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farside22 wrote:I don't see it as a scum slip unless your trying to say that VV didn't know before Ani flipped and you think he is pointing out how many colors town has.
That's what I'm saying.
mmm not sure. But it should be obvious reading the front page that Ani didn't have VT role. I also do note that the sample PM doesn't mention the colors it just says you are very colorful.
RC can you clear up one thing for me. Are you told what your colors are?
Please don't say what they are just say yes or no.
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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 7:20 am

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farside, at risk of sounding repetitive--do you want VV to claim?
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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 7:33 am

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Vi wrote:farside, at risk of sounding repetitive--do you want VV to claim?
Let me have RC answer that question first.
I am wavering slightly on VV as scum but damn i hate the idea that I just may have shot myself in the foot if the mafia don't have a normal kill. I'm just finding it hard to imagine not having a kill and the only poison ablity I ever have seen typically town doesn't know about someone being poisoned till they die the next day.
I'm sorry I know this seems weird but I feel like I'm fighting an uphill battle with trying to show Seacore as scum and only one vote on him and people ignoring me on my reason's claim. Then calling me scum with no reason. I keep thinking there is scum motive there. I can't stop myself from wanting to push at Seacore till it breaks.
But I will tell you that if RC comes back with an answer I expect it will damn VV more in my eyes as scum.

Your asking if I want VV to claim and right now I just want Seacore pushed to L-1 and forced to claim.
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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 7:40 am

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Is anyone reinterested in a massclaim at this point?

Just got done with a final (im scared to get that one back) and have two more on monday followed by a final one tuesday.

i actually do see something in regards to VV possibly slipping now, hp appears to be in the ballpark but cheering for a team not playing today, but we would need a claim of a certain role to make me back it.

I prefer a Socra-TM lynch to seacore one, so will not be moving my vote outside of deadline scenario. Will try and get reasoning up tonight.
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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 7:48 am

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No to mass claim. I already stated the one issue on this.

@Llama: Also how do you see something in regards to the slip being colorless and all?
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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 8:04 am

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farside22 wrote:@Llama: Also how do you see something in regards to the slip being colorless and all?
I think being colorless and working under assumption that mafia are colorless is what is letting me see it. Will elaborate post mass-claim (or post claim I am waiting for).
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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 8:16 am

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Farside-
I know my colors, they were told to me.
I can tell you how many and what they are if that is ever needed for whatever reason. But I doubt the actual claim of colors should not be done.
But telling you how many is understandable if you want me to counterclaim the amount to a claimed VTCorn. Lol, Vtcorn
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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 8:23 am

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Robocopter87 wrote:Farside-
I know my colors, they were told to me.
I can tell you how many and what they are if that is ever needed for whatever reason. But I doubt the actual claim of colors should not be done.
But telling you how many is understandable if you want me to counterclaim the amount to a claimed VTCorn. Lol, Vtcorn
Not necessary.

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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 8:52 am

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Posting to say there's clearly a link between Socrates and VV.
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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 9:13 am

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First off, how is that a slip? No, really. I do not comprehend. The key words are 'animorph's flip reveals'. And I fail to see how this logically goes anywhere.

How exactly do you conclude that I am not confident about colors because I had to present evidence?

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So in hp's own little world this is logical:
Vas presented evidence! Evidence as to why he thinks my fakeclaim is fake due to balance issues. Wait! He presented EVIDENCE!? WTF would you do THAT?

He's obviously not confident about colors! OMG you know who else is not confident about colors?

Llama!


OMG OMG. WAIT LLAMA CLAIMED COLORLESS AT TWILIGHT.

ALSO, LLAMA, who I said was scummy at the end of D1 but now isn't because he's not voting for me, SAID THAT SCUM IS COLORLESS.

The only logical conclusion here is......GASP! Vas is scum! I must hurry and present this evidence!

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I'm actually not sure of the accusation. Feel free to spell it out for me. It does not make sense at all because it is logically fallacious not to mention silly, stupid and scummy(The three S's of lynchability).

Why is he still alive? Oh wait, I know. Because he claimed BP right? And just that?
Riiight.


@farside:
Wait, what? That RC response makes hp's 'case' good....how?
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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 10:00 am

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I think one good thing came out of this discussion, at least.
farside22 928 wrote:mmm not sure. But it should be obvious reading the front page that Ani didn't have VT role. I also do note that the sample PM doesn't mention the colors it just says you are very colorful.
RC can you clear up one thing for me. Are you told what your colors are?

Please don't say what they are just say yes or no.
Sample Role PM wrote:You are a Robot Unicorn.

You have no special abilities, but you're very Colourful!

Your Colours are: REDACTED

You know that there are dark forces at work in the Digital Kingdom, and they would be very interested to know your Colours...

Win Condition: You win when all the threats to the Digital Rainbow Kingdom have been eliminated.

Please confirm receipt of your role via return PM.
And not only that, I'm a power role and I can confirm that I was also told my colors (and there's no reason to believe that a V. Townie
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It's a simple logical leap to see that every Town-aligned player knows their colors, especially after the multiple to-dos earlier about OMG NO COLOR CLAIMING.

So why does farside not know this?

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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 10:55 am

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I missed the your colours are: redacted in the sample PM. I thought I was feeling lucky and catching a scum slip and I knew what the whole colors thing was about so what are you saying I'm scummy about Vi?
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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 11:05 am

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farside22 939 wrote:I missed the your colours are: redacted in the sample PM. I thought I was feeling lucky and catching a scum slip and I knew what the whole colors thing was about so what are you saying I'm scummy about Vi?
I'm not buying it.
Vi 938 wrote:It's a simple logical leap to see that every Town-aligned player knows their colors,
especially after the multiple to-dos earlier about OMG NO COLOR CLAIMING.
It's really hard to claim colors when you don't know what they are.~
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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 11:30 am

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I talked about the colors with HP knowing what he was on about with the 3 colors things and his belief. Even there there is a big diffence with what my PM says color wise and what morph stated. How can you say your not buying it?
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Post Post #942 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 11:31 am

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Also I don't find your being rationale at all with my push and claim today at all.
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Post Post #943 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 12:07 pm

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So Farside just
forgot
about the role pm on the first page?
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Post Post #944 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 12:11 pm

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Don't have much time, I'm moving house over this 'long' weekend.
I still think VV is the best lynch of today, and I think people generally forgiving his slips and hypocracies is another sign that we've found scum.

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Post Post #945 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 12:14 pm

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I still think Seacore is scum, and I think people generally forgiving his slips and hypocrisies is another sign that we've found scum.
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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 12:57 pm

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Robocopter87 wrote:So Farside just
forgot
about the role pm on the first page?
I looked at page one looking for the color idea. I then looked at my pm that says your colours are and thought I didn't see the sample PM with that note. I was about to high five a sloppy mod moment. I caught scum one game do to a mod forgetting to add things to a sample PM.
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Post Post #947 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 12:58 pm

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Sorry I don't follow.
Can you rephrase that?
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Post Post #948 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 1:11 pm

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Re: farside thing - I dont really think its much of a tell, I could easily see town asking this hoping for scum mistake.
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Post Post #949 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2010 2:02 pm

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LlamaFluff 948 wrote:Re: farside thing - I dont really think its much of a tell, I could easily see town asking this hoping for scum mistake.
A scum mistake from Robocopter?
farside 942 wrote:Also I don't find your being rationale at all with my push and claim today at all.
I haven't been rational for about four months now. I'm just being irrational against your favor.

Please explain.
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