Newbie #950 (Game Over!)

[vezopiraka]

let's talk about something.

like why did _j west went at l-2?

It feels weird or i am just acustomed to 12 player game.

[Dr. Glunk]

He was at L-2 because three people had votes on him: fuzzylightning, I Am Innocent, and Lord Baltheir. It was during the RVS so maybe the votes were actually just random. Random voting can suck if everyones random votes end up being on the same person, so fuzzylightning retracted vote to prevent that from happening.

[I Am Innocent]

He was at L-2 because three people had votes on him: fuzzylightning, I Am Innocent, and Lord Baltheir. It was during the RVS so maybe the votes were actually just random.

Mine was semi random in the sense I like to vote for someone with a vote already. I saw you had 2 votes, and thought I put someone else at 2 votes as well. It was between j west or Deer at that point, I went with the newbie to see if I could get a newbie slip up.

I obv disagree with the others that early bandwagons are not good. On the flip side, I think one RVS vote on each player would be much more worthless.

Random voting can suck if everyones random votes end up being on the same person, so fuzzylightning retracted vote to prevent that from happening.

fuzzy retracted his vote after all nine players had made their RVS vote. So it wasn't like 2 newbies would jump on with add'l random votes.

I think the retracted vote was within reason, but there may have been a little over drama in that whole episode for my liking...

[Deer]

@I Am Innocent, did you read this:

By the way, I should have probably clarified this - by "aren't good" I meant that they can very easily have some scum on the wagon, and therefore need to be watched out for.

I agree that they get discussion started, but I think they can easily mask scum. It's more a matter of personal preference, sure - some people love bandwagons, others don't. I'm not going to make a whole case based on someone bandwagoning in RVS, but it doesn't make someone look pro-town in my eyes.

Reread my post and it sounds confusing. Second question was more, which of these moves is the mafia more likely to make:

1) on a wagon where it may draw attention
2) voting as follows: "I hate the movie Bambi, so deer gets my vote" (making this the first vote on deer...)

This is all a huge steaming pile of WIFOM. You can't make this argument.

let's talk about something.

like why did _j west went at l-2?

It feels weird or i am just acustomed to 12 player game.

Let's make some discusion here. It starts getting boring.

So who do you think is scum?

This doesn't sit well with me at all. Just saying these vague, general, random questions seems like a great way to "act town" and look like you're trying to scumhunt without having to actually put any effort into it.

vote: vezopiraka

[Charlou]

Just caught up with all the discussion ... I made a random vote earlier as suggested being aware that there's time to change it as more is said. It's still difficult to know who to vote for but that's the nature of the game, I guess.

The following comment

It feels weird or i am just acustomed to 12 player game.

leads me to wonder (a) why vezopiraka is playing as a newbie, and (b) if vezopiraka was trying to encourage a bandwagon.

[vezopiraka]

@deer. When i first posted that i didn't see the second page. I posted a reply saying to ignore my las post.


@charlou: I'm playing as a newbie cause i played once on another forum and it was a 12 player game.

[Deer]

But you've done it twice...and it doesn't really matter what page it was on.

[fuzzylightning]

Internet at school went down and I was driving home today, look for a post sometime tomorrow

[Charlou]

@charlou: I'm playing as a newbie cause i played once on another forum and it was a 12 player game.

I've been trying to follow a game as a spectator on another forum but couldn't quite catch on ... followed their link to here and figured best way to learn is to play.


Still not seeing anything shifty to point suspicion in any direction. I'm guessing it doesn't get any clearer as the game goes on ...

[Amish_Charney]

Deer, you still haven't answered my question. You've eschewed early bandwagons, but then say the random voting is good because we can see the responses.

So I'll ask you again. How are we ever supposed to see readable defenses if there's only one vote on people, usually for reasons that are, quite honestly, rather silly.

[iamausername]

-=Vote Count #2=-

_j west (2) - I Am Innocent, Lord Baltheir
I Am Innocent (2) - Amish_Charney, vezopiraka
Dr. Glunk (1) - Charlou
Deer (1) - Dr. Glunk
Lord Baltheir (1) - fuzzylightning
vezopiraka (1) - Deer

Not Voting (1) - _j west

5 to lynch.

[Deer]

Deer, you still haven't answered my question. You've eschewed early bandwagons, but then say the random voting is good because we can see the responses.

So I'll ask you again. How are we ever supposed to see readable defenses if there's only one vote on people, usually for reasons that are, quite honestly, rather silly.

By the way, I should have probably clarified this - by "aren't good" I meant that they can very easily have some scum on the wagon, and therefore need to be watched out for.

How many times do I need to quote that? I agree my first posts were somewhat unclear, but still, you should be reading the thread.

[Charlou]

Deer, you still haven't answered my question. You've eschewed early bandwagons, but then say the random voting is good because we can see the responses.

So I'll ask you again. How are we ever supposed to see readable defenses if there's only one vote on people, usually for reasons that are, quite honestly, rather silly.

There isn't only one vote ... we can 'unvote' and vote for someone else ...

unvote Dr. Glunk

vote Amish_Charney

... like that. Why shouldn't I vote for you?

[Amish_Charney]

... because this isn't the random stage anymore and people should have reasons for their votes?

[Charlou]

... because this isn't the random stage anymore and people should have reasons for their votes?

Let's see them, then.


Seriously, how does this thing kick off?

unvote Amish_Charney

vote yours truly

[Deer]

... because this isn't the random stage anymore and people should have reasons for their votes?

Why are you still voting for I am Innocent, then? That was an RV.

[vezopiraka]

ok forgot to

unvote

Charlou why are you voting for yourself ?
I played two games before and every time someone voted for himself they were scum

[Dr. Glunk]

Yeah voting for yourself is definitely odd.

[Deer]

Whoa, I thought yours truly was a different player in the game, hahaha. But yeah, Charlou, stop doing that now please. It's just dumb.

[Amish_Charney]

Point taken

unvote

[Deer]

Amish since you love bandwagons so much, wanna hop on the vezo wagon and see if we can catch ourselves a scum?

[Amish_Charney]

Hmm, I don't hate the idea of it, but right now, if I'm gonna wagon, it'll be on charlou. If the tell you're working on is the vague, generalized questions about nothing in particular, charlou's been the poster for those of late.

Asking when things get started... odd ideas vis a vis burden of proof, nothing posts, voting with no real reason, the the weird self vote... yeah

vote- charlou

[Charlou]

ahehehe ...

[Charlou]

[I Am Innocent]

@ Charlou: When was the last time you changed your profile and why?