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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:09 pm

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Da Scary Wary Vote Count!


2 - StrykkerVerde - Maximumum, and Nightfall




Not voting: Everyone else
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:28 pm

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No posts in almost 24 hrs?

!warning! I will Mod kill someone randomly if no one posts in the next 24 hrs.
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:35 pm

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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:38 pm

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You ruined my fun Strykker.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:55 pm

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man, evil bitch mod....

almost as mean as BabyJesus

lets get things going
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:45 pm

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Hey.....rajrhcpfreak...I could and should mod kill you for calling me a bitch. My first RULE was NO MEANIES!!!! But since I know I'm particularly bitchy at this "time of the month" I'll let it slide. But next time, I won't be so nice.
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:26 am

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StrykkerVerde wrote: The cop came out early. That's bad. Who else agrees? On the plus side, he had a guilty investigation. This is good. However any asshole could say "I'm a cop he's guilty" so I would rather wait until most people have checked in because if he isn't the cop. Or if he is and scum try and counter-claim. We have then found ourselves some scum instead of just listining to the one guy blindly and letting the wolf lead the sheep to the pack.

In the end I wasn't trying to get more roles out in the open, I was just trying to stay on the side of caution. The cop has been revealed. There is now no way that that's not true. Because if he is the cop then that's that, and if he's not the cop and the real one doesn't come out then we're following a wolf and the cop would not be smart to let us do that.

And if Foolster did in fact investigate Nightfall, and he is in fact the cop, then I guess I was wrong about his role being bogus. My bad.
See, the problem I have with this explanation is the assumption that there is only one cop role in this game. How does anyone know that?
A mafia member coming out on day one with a false cop claim when there was absolutely no lynch pressure on him is HIGHLY unlikely. No one was suspicious of Foolster at the time but he came out because of Roland's role claim and the effect it may have had on the first lynch. You were afraid Foolster's claim was bogus and wanted to make sure by having someone else come out with their role? What if that had happened and there were two cops in the game? It could have been disasterous.
Your defense doesn't change the fact that you wanted to check the claim by having others reveal their role on day one, something you said you didn't like to see.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:26 am

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Double post to add:
Mod, WAY to much information. :P
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:08 am

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Maximumum wrote:
StrykkerVerde wrote: The cop came out early. That's bad. Who else agrees? On the plus side, he had a guilty investigation. This is good. However any asshole could say "I'm a cop he's guilty" so I would rather wait until most people have checked in because if he isn't the cop. Or if he is and scum try and counter-claim. We have then found ourselves some scum instead of just listining to the one guy blindly and letting the wolf lead the sheep to the pack.

In the end I wasn't trying to get more roles out in the open, I was just trying to stay on the side of caution. The cop has been revealed. There is now no way that that's not true. Because if he is the cop then that's that, and if he's not the cop and the real one doesn't come out then we're following a wolf and the cop would not be smart to let us do that.

And if Foolster did in fact investigate Nightfall, and he is in fact the cop, then I guess I was wrong about his role being bogus. My bad.
See, the problem I have with this explanation is the assumption that there is only one cop role in this game. How does anyone know that?
A mafia member coming out on day one with a false cop claim when there was absolutely no lynch pressure on him is HIGHLY unlikely. No one was suspicious of Foolster at the time but he came out because of Roland's role claim and the effect it may have had on the first lynch. You were afraid Foolster's claim was bogus and wanted to make sure by having someone else come out with their role? What if that had happened and there were two cops in the game? It could have been disasterous.
Your defense doesn't change the fact that you wanted to check the claim by having others reveal their role on day one, something you said you didn't like to see.
The more I read this and the more Maximumum makes sense to me.
Strykker was obviously fishing for claims.
I may add: even if Foolster wasn't the real cop, we would have found that immediately after the lynch. And I don't think Foolster would have lasted a lot of time the next day in such a situation...
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:10 am

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ok more information...

sry SapphireVerde and it looks like you are much better than babyjesus. i would ahve been dead.

but remember me saying that i was going to reread.....

i did it!!

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I dunno, I've just got a weird feeling. :?

I need more time to think this over.
and i found these great post. roland was pleading for the deadline to be extened when stryker got the majority of the vote. was he pleading for his mafia buddy to stay in the game? then we find out that roland is part of the mafia and added to stryker's already behavior, i think we have found another scum.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:33 am

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I'm taking this from another side:
Mlaker is dead. He was sceptical that Nightfall is good. That could mean two things: Either Nightfall wanted someone who didn't believe him away
or
Scum was trying to make us think that.
I don't know what is right, but I'm sure it is one of those things.
Also a nice find raj. It looks bad for Strykker. He also mde a post without answering to Nightfall questions.
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:18 am

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[qupte]
zu_faul,

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That made no sense. Does that mean you should lynch me for it?

Your logic is flawed sir. [/quote]
This statement really bothered me.

Max: The idea that there is one cop or one doc is the basis of the counterclaim mechanic. There usualy is only one doc (See 1st day of Rock 'En Sock 'Em Robots Mafia for a good example of this mechanic working), but is it more common to have more than one cop in a game?

It's 4/6 votes by my count so now's a good time to say something Styker.
I'm not really convinced for sure he's scum, though i'm about 60% sure he's scum.
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:47 am

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if were giving %, i say im about 99.6% that strykker is mafia
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:30 am

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zu_Faul wrote:I'm taking this from another side:
Mlaker is dead. He was sceptical that Nightfall is good. That could mean two things: Either Nightfall wanted someone who didn't believe him away
or
Scum was trying to make us think that.
I don't know what is right, but I'm sure it is one of those things.
Also a nice find raj. It looks bad for Strykker. He also mde a post without answering to Nightfall questions.
1> I must admit that I was more then a little surprised that Mlaker was protown. Every post he made, made me think otherwise. Also the fact that he was one of the three people voting for me at the end of day 1, which included a now dead scum and a soon to be lynched suposed scum, things weren't looking very positive ofr him.

2> Are there such a thing as anti town reflectors? if not then shouldn't foolster's results have cleared me? or are you doubtfull of his claim too? OR are you just trying to cast doubt on me, since you now know that you (as scum?) wont be able to night kill me?.

3> And yes, I am still waiting for my answer from strykker...
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:56 am

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Will abstain from voting, since Strykker is very close to a lynch ... but you, sir, are looking VERY bad now.

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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:53 pm

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i was examining the previous day agian and i found this too....
rolandofthewhite wrote:I'm going to
Unvote
for now, and I may vote for Nightfall, soon. I just don't like how this bandwagon against Strykker has set itself up. I need to reread.
furthering my assumptions that roland and strykker is together.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:24 pm

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d_rouge wrote:Strykker was obviously fishing for claims.
I wanted to wait to see if he was counter claimed. I never once asked anybody to claim. I never said, hey lets all claim our roles. I waited. For 1 person to say he's not the cop. I didn't ask anybody specific because if nobody said that then he was cleared as the cop. If someone did come out, then we probably found a scum. In every game this size I've ever been in there has only been one cop. It's usually a safe assumtion. If I'm wrong about that I'm sorry.

Since I am so close to a lynch I guess I will claim.

I am Ghostface from the Scream trilogy. (scary huh?)

I'm a roleblocker.

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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:44 pm

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How is ghostface a roleblocker? I only saw part of the first movie, so I don't know much about this.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:48 pm

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Sorry, hit post too soon. I have another qustion, who did you block on previous nights?

I have to admit, this role, like Rolands sounds like it has a tenuous link with it's charecter.

Freddy investigating dreams makes sense.

But then again, a reflecting dracula (Does anyone else see the humorous irony in this?) doesn't make much sense to me either, so maybe the mod's applying of roles to charecters isn't as solid as I'd like to think.

As for the cop thing, I don't think he was fishing for roles, what stryker says makes perfect sense. There is sometimes more than 1 cop, but It's almost always a reserve/backup cop or a cop with an negitive effect (insane, paranoid or random).
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:30 am

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2> Are there such a thing as anti town reflectors? if not then shouldn't foolster's results have cleared me? or are you doubtfull of his claim too? OR are you just trying to cast doubt on me, since you now know that you (as scum?) wont be able to night kill me?.
It may still be that you are a SK with an added bonus.

And I also want to know from Strykker who he blocked, if anyone.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:40 am

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Waiting to hear if Strykker will come up with people he blocked during the night.

Does anyone know what movie roland's "Ben" came from?
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:15 am

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no i dont, and im a movie freak

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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:52 am

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There was a Ben in "Steven King's It". Would be very ironic if Roland got a chracter by Stephen King...
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:18 am

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I chose not to block anybody night 1, I had no real information about anybody and my odds of blocking a doc or cop were just as good as blocking scum.

As to my character not making sense with my role, what would you like ghostface to be? A Serial Killer like he was in the movie? That wouldn't really fit with the theme of the game now would it?
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:26 am

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StrykkerVerde wrote:I chose not to block anybody night 1, I had no real information about anybody and my odds of blocking a doc or cop were just as good as blocking scum.
Hey scum, we had two nights.

@ Mod, could you please update the first post to show that roland is dead?
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