Lay of Leithian Mafia: Game Over!

[Papa Zito]

No see that's why it's brilliant. That's a dead CKD AND a dead Iceman, unless CKD is lying of course.

Vote Count 4 - 13: Lynch

curiouskarmadog - 4 - Budja, Kmd4390, Anon, Iecerint
Anon - 1 - Starbuck
Iecerint -

5

- curiouskarmadog, xvart, Cyberbob, SpyreX, SocioPath
Cobalt - 1 - J-Scope
Starbuck - 3 - ooba, farside22, Jack,

Not Voting (3): MehPlusRawr, Cobalt, Papa Zito

With 17 players alive it'll take 9 to lynch and 9 to no-Lynch.

Xvart

's V/LA is noted.

Deadline will be Wednesday May 10th at 8:26 Eastern Time.

[SpyreX]

... Did I miss something? I saw the softclaim but did I totally just WOOSH over him claiming supersaint?

[Papa Zito]

Seems the best explanation for him being so gung-ho about being lynched.

"You'll be sorry nyah nyah BOOM"

[ooba]

CKD is town. (At least not Mafia, slight possibility of SK)

I don't think he's a SS.

Just ISO'd SB - its only the recent play that seems suspicious .. Most of the play before seems good. Will ISO Iece and Anon now ..

[SpyreX]

I thought of it far more like the "ooououu you'll be sorry" bidness versus an SS.

[curiouskarmadog]

ummm, PZ..

if your really thought I was an SS (I am neither confirming or denying this)..why are you communicating it? Isnt that part of the surprise (if that was indeed what I am)? How is it a good protown play?

[ooba]

ummm, PZ..

if your really thought I was an SS (I am neither confirming or denying this)..why are you communicating it? Isnt that part of the surprise (if that was indeed what I am)? How is it a good protown play?

If scum, you are obviously lying about SS.

If town, we can atleast get an extra lynch. Because rather than let a random person or even worse, an obvious townie like me hammer and die (move to mandos), we can at least get a scummy player to hammer and die.

CKD this is for you: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7687
Not the best example, but you should get the moral of the story.

[Anon]

[quote=""SB]Not so much active lurking, but just completely fucking lost with this game.[/quote]
what exactly are you waiting to play it up, dear? I need one of those massive PBPA of yours.

[quote=""SB]I seriously have no issue being lynched. I'm not a PR of any kind and just a VT. I have a staunch "I don't replace out policy", so my apologies for everything just being over my head right no[/quote]
asfafadgasdgsafahdfh

[quote=""SB]If you tell me why I'm scum (minus me not being around so much), I'll tell you why I think you are scum. [/quote]
wat. You voted for me FIRST. You go FIRST.

[quote=""SB]And if I'm scum, why isn't your vote on me? [/quote]
dont.think.you.are.thath.special, more suspicious scumzors and I await an awesome answer for this post.

Basically, if I didnt know Starbuck and what she has done in other games, as much as I do, this would be an imediate diescumdie situation. Last chance, SB.

[Anon]

ITT ASFASFADGAGADG

Not so much active lurking, but just completely fucking lost with this game.

what exactly are you waiting to play it up, dear? I need one of those massive PBPA of yours.

I seriously have no issue being lynched. I'm not a PR of any kind and just a VT. I have a staunch "I don't replace out policy", so my apologies for everything just being over my head right no

asfafadgasdgsafahdfh

If you tell me why I'm scum (minus me not being around so much), I'll tell you why I think you are scum.

wat. You voted for me FIRST. You go FIRST.

And if I'm scum, why isn't your vote on me?

dont.think.you.are.thath.special, more suspicious scumzors and I await an awesome answer for this post.

Basically, if I didnt know Starbuck and what she has done in other games, as much as I do, this would be an imediate diescumdie situation. Last chance, SB.

[Anon]

1469, glad jscopey - scopey is back.

1471, M+R active lurking. why.i.am.surprised.

1473 is confirming my kmdscumread, the zito-anon attack rings weak-false if not unnecessary, rethoric.question.for.the.lose, number of strong stances= 0.000000001.

1476: farside, I really hope this go through.

1489: Jack, of course I wasted an amount of time defending myself attacking others because the case on me was OMG, LYNCH THE PEDOBEAR FOR NOT DOING ANYTHING. Your reason is stupid as hell.

The Iec tangent doesnt interest me basically for the fact that the first voter is ckd, the second is xvart, two of my stronger suspects and I dont think this is bussing. While not supertown, there is also some good attempt at setup speculation in his iso. Someone point me what is the case on him?

[Anon]

Did ckd ever answer this?

second, dont try to bully me around...I will ask whatever "time wasting" questions I want...I think it is important.

Ill bully you whatever bullying questions I want bullied in my bully. Why.is.this.important if you think Zito is town? And I want this questions answered nao.

now, what have you done to scum hunt in this game?

Go read my iso 1, 3, 6, 7, 8, 11, 14, 17, 18, 22, 24 and 26 and you'll discover something interesting.

[curiouskarmadog]

what is there to answer?

I was scum hunting....at the time I thought PZ was probably town, but just because I do, doesnt mean I ignore strange behavior. Are you telling me that you have never thought someone was town then change your mind when they did something strange or scummy? I was trying to figure out why he did what he did. I was trying to figure out if his motivations were scummy or not. I was trying to figure out if his play jived with my town read of him....

you obviously have no clue what scum hunting is, if you considered some of those posts as scum hunting....that being said, some of them I can see as possibly someone who might be looking for scum (or attempting to look like he is)...I didnt however find anything interesting there, though.

Anon, what do you think of his(PZ) claim?...was it a good idea? That being said, what about SB's? Was it a good idea? Some people think I have soft claimed, was that a good idea? Why or why not? If your answers differ...why yes for some no for others?

[Anon]

Context.

This is what I thought when those events happened.

1. Claiming when there is absolutely no pressure on you using probably better understanding of night actions as backup: null tell, check read/meta of the player to decide if this is a town or scum maneuver. I have a town read on Zito. Prob town maneuver.

2. Softclaiming when there is a wagon starting on you : scumtell. But check read/meta of the player to decide if this is a town or scum maneuver. SB has a meta of being useless and being that stupid mislynch in day 4-5 that almost costs game, check Haylen's Time of Glitch for reference. You, ckd, dont. You should know better.

Also, lolPS: looking for scum=scumhuting. The fact that you dont find it interesting has nothing to do with its validity.

[Budja]

Supersaint assumption was silly, not scummy.

Iec's unvote sucked. Better wagon than Anon at least, but I'd rather see CKD, SB go.

[Papa Zito]

ummm, PZ..

if your really thought I was an SS (I am neither confirming or denying this)..why are you communicating it? Isnt that part of the surprise (if that was indeed what I am)? How is it a good protown play?

I think you're scum. Or supersaint. Town wins either way with this plan.

vote: CKD

[ooba]

Its distressing to see town on town (PZ & CKD) .. Distracting too since it lets scum get away ..

[Papa Zito]

Show me the light, ooba. Who should we lynch then?

[Míriel Therindë]

Vote Count 4 - 14: Lynch

curiouskarmadog -

5

- Budja, Kmd4390, Anon, Iecerint, Papa Zito
Anon - 1 - Starbuck
Iecerint -

5

- curiouskarmadog, xvart, Cyberbob, SpyreX, SocioPath
Cobalt - 1 - J-Scope
Starbuck - 3 - ooba, farside22, Jack,

Not Voting (2): MehPlusRawr, Cobalt

With 17 players alive it'll take 9 to lynch and 9 to no-Lynch.

Xvart

's V/LA is noted.

Deadline will be Wednesday May 10th at 8:26 Eastern Time.

[Papa Zito]

Deadline will be Wednesday May 10th at 8:26 Eastern Time.

Oh crap deadline in 2 days. We need to get this show together kids.

[Míriel Therindë]

Oh yeah, sorry, I can't count. Deadline should be the

12th

, still Wednesday. I'll update the old votecounts when I can.

[Papa Zito]

Math is hard.

Still though.

[Iecerint]

I'm also voting CKD

.

Edited for your convenience. Someday I'll get it right; in the meantime, my (continual) apologies).

ooba, are you just reading CKD in iso? You may've missed his timing on Jackwagon D1, which I think was suspect. (I just read him again to see what you were talking about and noticed that his brevity in that bit hides the sketchiness if it's out of context.) The only day without troubling play from CKD has been D2, but that was almost autopilot for scum due to FFFF shenanigans, anyway.

I also noticed during the reread that SPS was among his favorite wagons for almost all of D1, but he nonetheless joined the never-alluded-to Iecwagon D3 in spite of SPScumwagon being the alternative.

[J-Scope]

@Mod: Starbuck gets two wagons?

Oh hey, look, another votecount error

unvote;
Vote: Starbuck

The premature claim and indifference to being lynched hits a gut nerve. I can understand the reasoning of not wanting a replacement on your personal record, but if that's the case than why is a claim the best move in that situation?

Not so much active lurking, but just completely fucking lost with this game.

Starbuck, why not just leave it at that and try to regroup?

Point 1: It takes her weeks to find a case on somebody that would only take a quick ISO on the wagoners to find. It looks like she doesn't really want to understand the case that much, but is trying not to stay on the fence about it. Being lost should not apply here.

I really don't know the case on Shovel.

Can someone explain the case on SPS?

Point 2: She makes a case on Cobalt, lets it go for a long time, then seems confused why Cobalt is exhibiting the same tell that she based her case on. I feel like the normal reaction would be to re-present the case that's still accurate, rather than act like it didn't exist. Maybe she wants other people to take ownership of the wagon since its a question to them and not an answer by her.

On Cobalt
What's with all the voting and unvoting, but not saying a word?
...<snip>...
Posts like this do nothing to help the town.

Vote: Cobalt

And did anyone notice Cobalt hop in on Post 1156 to vote for SPS and not say a word?

Star, you should have a good feeling why he'd hop. He has done it before and both could be because he's scum.

-Jah out.

[ooba]

ooba, are you just reading CKD in iso?

No. It's just that his recent posts give me a very strong town tell - this is from NoXKill history.

However given the limited time to deadline, I think its better off that CKD claims and we get this out of the way. Pretty certain what he's going to claim but lets see; there are chances I could have read him totally wrongly ...

Show me the light, ooba. Who should we lynch then?

I've been lazy - I still haven't read Iece and Anon. I would be willing to back a Budja or CB lynch.

[Budja]

I would prefer a claim today also. (well, obv really)

Should CKD be a supersaint, I have no problem with Zito's idea.

@J-Scope, Cyberbob also questioned the SPS wagon and plently of people were sheeping (myself included day 1). So that point looks weak to me.

@SpyreX, I asked you a question. Help me keep my town read.