Werewolf: Wisborg Asylum: GAME OVER, Innocents Win.

[crypto]

Vote: xRECKONERx.

I have this hypothesis and I wanna test it.

[crypto]

Test over.

Unvote. Vote: Chronopie.

I think I've found scum, guys.

[crypto]

Kise, vote Chronopie please.

Sucrose, vote Chronopie.

[crypto]

Seriously speaking, isn't Nightson a better choice? He voted dramonic and myself right after Reck voted for the both of us. If that's not a master and his minion, I don't know what is.

Nightson is probably Reck's newb scum team B partner. We should focus on scum team A today, which is what Chronopie is.

[crypto]

Oh, in that case: Reck, please vote Nightson for free ice cream.

[crypto]

I'm retarded. Please vote Chronopie for free ice cream.

[crypto]

Just shut up and vote Chronopie.

[crypto]

What happens if reck doesn't want free ice cream?

Two-month ban.

[crypto]

Unvote. Vote: easjo682.

[crypto]

Unvote. Vote: Chronopie.

[crypto]

lol

[crypto]

Mod, Fate's voting two different people . . .
[question mark]

Also, I thought jester wasn't a permitted role in games on this site anymore. Hm.

Hallo SpyreX. Oh wait.

12-13 page 2-week max day 1

/wrist

There's something interesting in my first post. Tell me if you see what it is, and it will make you confirmed town.

Interesting on more than one level. (Please don't do scum's job for them.)

Clear killing role

Town vig. Vote Chronopie.

[crypto]

If you don't want to respond to the second part then I understand.

Oh, Fate, if you're being serious then it can only be interesting on one level. Parentheses not relevant.

[crypto]

Welp, I'm here. Nice OMGUS, chronopie.

Also, crypto, why the easjo vote?

Put your vote where your mouth is, i.e., on Chronopie.

Triple post by page four. I am are win huh.

[crypto]

Stop role-fishing.

[crypto]

We're not here to be sexy. We're here to lynch scum.

[crypto]

And if he brings up again that he's certain that Kise is cum in percentages, he should explain how he got that number.

[crypto]

[quote="Zazie"] he's certain that Kise is cum in percentages[/img]

[crypto]

GOD BLESS MAFIASCUM.NET

[crypto]

Once again:

he's certain that Kise is cum in percentages

[crypto]

Zazie, is that a legitimately serious post or are you parodying my own facetiousness with like reverse-reverse sarcasm?

Also, fucking hell.

[crypto]

HI DRY-FIT!

WANNA VOTE CHRONOPIE WITH ME?

[crypto]

Crypto, can you explain the easjo vote or will you just ignore the question again?

Just ignore the question again.

[crypto]

Actually I just did it so I could have the pleasure of voting Chronopie. Easjo was a good choice because I felt the need to express disapproval of his slander of Reck.

[crypto]

Reck, I think me and you are the only people taking this game remotely seriously. Please let's just not dumb down our stratagem for these asshats, okay?

[crypto]

Narcissism. Reck? Mushrooms, presumably.

[crypto]

Kise is rapidly becoming one of the more BAMF players in this game.

Despite crypto's aloofness, I actually agree with him on Chronopie. He looks pretty bad.

hi wats aloof

[crypto]

Baltar, what makes you think my vote and call for a wagon are not serious?

[crypto]

I feel that your vote is serious, but you're not pursuing it or this game in a serious manner...if that makes sense. To put it another way, I don't think your approach is likely to result in a lynch. Lucky for you, I agree with your read and I'll help you garner better support than everyone simply ignoring your attack.

Aw, thanks. Hm. IIRC I did reel in four or five votes. If people could just sit tight then we should lynch Chronopie first and then Reck if he doesn't clean his act up. I don't have a scum read on Reck.

[crypto]

Chronopie, how is joking around on page 5 a scum tell? Also, why did you actually consider with any seriousness the possibility that there is a jester in this game? Christ.

Dramonic, what are you doing and why are you doing it?

JackALope, why are you attempting to lynch players who you are expressing frustration about instead of players who you think are scum? Also, you just went from joking around to "OMG YOU GUYS ARE NOT BEING SERIOUS ENOUGH F YOU I HATE YOU FOS HOS VOAT VOAT VOAT!" in one post. Justify, please. It reeks of artifice.

FOS: Nightson.

Nightson, stop stalling. Same goes for you, Goat.

Fate is town.

Kise, be less kick-ass. You're overshadowing me.

Deer, get your vote off Reck and put it back on Chronopie please. We'll buy you jewelry.

[crypto]

@Chrono

, you think Reck is being facetious and you don't think his facetiousness is a scum tell. Why, then, are you voting me based a facetious statement of his?

Nightson, stop stalling. Same goes for you, Goat.

Replace Goat with Shattered Viewpoint there.

Also, Sucrose smells funny.

[crypto]

That could have been worded better.

[crypto]

Stop bribing people, or I'm turning it into an unofficial scumtell, because you can't be bothered forming a case.

On a scale of 0–1, 0 being unserious and 1 being serious, how serious is this?

[crypto]

Any last shout-outs, Chronopie?

[crypto]

There was an inkling of truth to Reck's SK comment. Hence my disinterest in making the effort to get you lynched.

Let's just hope the mod's quick about it, eh?

[crypto]

Unvote.

Please do not out your specific role, Chronopie.

I'm lynching players who are being anti-town. Scum or not, anti-town players need to die.

If you are town then lynching anti-town players does not satisfy your win condition. Lynching scum satisfies your win condition.

Merkabah, prior to the feigned day kill why did you find Chronopie scummy?

Merk, crypto & Reck were tossing around the idea that they were a pair of SKs, so perhaps that is where Chrono got it from.(?)

Is that what you think? Take a side, bro. Don't air possibilities and then go with whichever possibility the crowd goes with.

Crypto, did you expect chrono to die?

ROFL, God, of course not, silly!

Also the fact crypto and reck claimed so... :S

I never claimed anything.

Crypto says there is some inkling of truth to whats going on.

There was no inkling of truth to Reck's SK comment. Not on my side of it, at least.

Scum = scum.
Player prefering scum over other scum = scum.

I'm at a loss as to how you guys have been taking so seriously some of the things Reck and I—especially Reck.

And a question for you, what is your reasoning for voting Chronopie? If you once again state to stop rolefishing, does this mean that you used an action N0? If you don't, give the real reason.

Whether or not I had a night 0 action remains undisclosed. I voted Chronopie because I found his joke voting vaguely phony. Calling Reck a day vig and distastefully OMGUSing me sealed it.

Also, why did you tell Deer not to rolefish, yet leaving Merkabah alone when they pointed out that they think xRECKx is a killing role (To which you even reply that you think he's a vig)?

Because I was being an ass hat. Just like Reck was (very, very, very obviously) being an asshat.

@Sucrose

, be more useful please.

@Reck

, you might want to be fast about getting up that reaction analysis.

Vote: Sucrose.

[crypto]

Ani and chrono, on a scale of 1-10, how serious do you think Reck was being that he's in an SK duo?

5 or 6. I think there's a hint of truth to it, but hes not telling the full truth.

@Nightson:

Yes.

unvote, vote crypto

How does claiming scum further Reck's evil scum agenda?

[crypto]

Ani and chrono, on a scale of 1-10, how serious do you think Reck was being that he's in an SK duo?

5 or 6. I think there's a hint of truth to it, but hes not telling the full truth.

@Nightson:

Yes.

unvote, vote crypto

How does claiming scum further Reck's evil scum agenda?

If your unlynchable, then Reck is telling the truth, and we lynch him tomorrow. I'm not going to Reck straight away because I think he is twisting it around (which means your unkillable and HE's unlynchable).

How does claiming scum further Reck's evil scum agenda?

[crypto]

So your theory is that Reck-scum wants to out himself and lose the game.

[crypto]

Holy nucking futs, people. Please tell me the puzzling over Reaper's claim is not serious.

[crypto]

Goat, what's your read on Kise?

[crypto]

Okay, sorry about that.

[crypto]

It makes sense.

I don't get why Deer is scummy.

[crypto]

Pro tip, Chronopie: If you think you're already dead, don't bother claiming your fucking role. TIA.

[crypto]

Chrono is town.

[crypto]

If Chrono is scum then why does he go out of his way to claim VT as opposed to a power role, let alone

after

he seems to think he is dead?

Why ". . . save him"? Because I . . . didn't know he was a VT-equivalent before he claimed VT-equivalent, maybe?

[crypto]

Chrono is town.

Oh no you don't.

[crypto]

[crypto]

crypto, that Sucrose wagon isn't going anywhere. Being the lone vote on scum will just get you NK'd, come on switch over.

No.

[crypto]

@Merkabah

, I just don't see caught scum claiming vanilla townie.

Crypto~Very high post count, 44 posts in three days unfortunately most of them lack content, most off them seem to be off handed remarks none of which contribute to the discussion, theres not really much to actually read off of crypto as most of his posts are just fooling around distractiong from the scum hunting

Isos. 0, 7, 8, 9, 16–19 (ugh), 22, and 25 aren't game-related. The other thirty-nine posts in my iso. were all submitted for a reason. If 79.6% is "most" then I'll buy myself a hat and eat it.

He self-votes, brings up jesters, then tries to trivialize both after being called on it? Something about jack makes people think he's town? Really?

I don't think he's town but I'm too lazy to go after someone of his intelligence at this point in time.

Nice post, Sucrose.

Unvote. Vote: inHimshallibe.

[crypto]

ReaperCharlie, have is that meta or have I played with you before?

[crypto]

[crypto]

Only a stupid, stupid scum would actually think he could get a lynch out of an RVS wagon, though.

I'm vaguely insulted.

[crypto]

Because I really was hoping for a lynch there and knowledge that someone thinks such a hope could only be fostered by stupid scum makes me feel icky.

[crypto]

I like Spyre's vote.

[crypto]

@Dry-fit

, I voted inHimshallibe because I found his play was vaguely scummy. He FOSed and voted me, promised further insights, gave no further insights, voted Goat because Goat apologized about something (seriously?), and skirted around the periphery of the game for a number of posts afterward. Upon reread he didn't look quite as scummy, though, and his latest post looks pretty thoughtful.

Please, for my sanity which is slowly but surely slipping away, EXPLAIN TO ME HOW ANY OF THEM HAVE MADE USEFUL POSTS.

If you really have to ask this question there's no way in hell you are carefully reading the game with the intention of finding scum.

Also, your last five or ten posts have been horrible.

Unvote. Vote: JackALope2323.

There was something else I meant to say but I forgot.

[crypto]

JackALope, the funny thing about your self-vote is that you believe it's a scum tell.

I kinda wanna vote Shattered Viewpoint. Not dramonic, though. Not yet.

[crypto]

I admit the context is a bit different, but do me a favor and meta Jack. If I went into any more detail I'd be cussed out, mod-killed, banned, stripped, tied to a bedpost, flogged, chopped into multiple pieces, deposited into multiple boxes, distributed across a wide range of continents, etc., etc.

[crypto]

Stop using caps lock. It makes me want to use my real day kill on you.

[crypto]

Self-voting in RVS isn't self-defense.

[crypto]

Sorry for getting your hopes up, Spyre.

[crypto]

No rage here. Sorry.

Read dram in iso; he hasn't done shit except react and fluff.

Vote: dramonic

This reads scummy.

Dude thats not fair - I mean, after "Crypto and Fate have the same playstyle = charles manson" I'd shoot him BUTTT I still think he's town.

This reads scummy.

I'm good with a Shattered Viewpoint lynch. He's scummy and useless.

Unvote. Vote: Shattered Viewpoint.

[crypto]

JackALope's continued inability to comment on ANYONE OTHER THAN THE PEOPLE FOSING HIM—let alone comment on the people FOSing him in a remotely intelligent way involving anything more than "LOL HE'S SCUMMY AND ANTI-TOWN LOL BEER LOL"—is fucking scummy as well.

[crypto]

Fate's 604 is a nice summary even if I am really nervous about my read on Jack.

[crypto]

As for scumtells? I don't know, just take a look at some of Fate's or Crypto's or xRx's posts. The way they BARELY post, and when they do it's all raging, ass-hattery, and pushing any lynch they can, sometimes providing little to no reasoning.

At the risk of breaking a rule, your capacity for reading comprehension isn't the highest out there, is it?

[crypto]

Reck, stop failing.

[crypto]

[crypto]

Unvote. Vote: JackALope2323.

SV looks slightly more town than before. Jack is throwing tantrums every post without actually getting anything done, and it looks contrived as hell.

[crypto]

This game is screwy.

We need to push through this lynch on SV. Votes are flying everywhere in the absence of more heat on SV.

crypto returns to the not-so-town side of things. What a fluff vote.

Nope, I'm voting who I think is scum.

[crypto]

You really think Jack's vacuous raging is town play?

[crypto]

I could see dramonic being scum. I'm up for blindly following Spyre if we can't get a Jack lynch.

[crypto]

I don't see how we can know he believes it. I've seen scum fake town rage before.

[crypto]

Oh, also, I don't recall ani fluffing it up

quite

this much.

[crypto]

Dramonic's clearly not reading the game. From Spyre's list, I was hesitant, of all people, about Merkabah and to a lesser degree Spyre, but dramonic's most recent post and Merkabah's nuclear warhead 754 make me happy.

Unvote. Vote: dramonic.

You, sir, are at L-1.

[crypto]

I have never encountered the whole alliance thing before, anybody have a link to a good game with one in it? Preferably one that isn't so long I don't bother to read it.

Scum.

Whelp.

[crypto]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyGlZ3LbkgU

[crypto]

I'll be that

guy

idiot who goes against my own moral code and observes aloud that "lunatic" sounds a lot like jester.

[crypto]

Yeah, sure.

Vote: animorpherv1.

/ice cream

[crypto]

I didn't read closely enough. You claimed non-jester, therefore you get lynched.

[crypto]

We lynch anti-town roles, Reck.

Rajr is scum-hunting superficially and looks like he might know too much.

[crypto]

SpyreX is town by virtue of meta tell. Ani needs to be lynched.

[crypto]

Sup simultaneous postinz.

[crypto]

We're lynching Deer tomorrow for inducing migraines.

[crypto]

So you're just irrationally fear-mongering. Keep it up.

[crypto]

I'm starting to think that Shattered Viewpoint's win con is to drive a given number of townies to the point of replacing out.

[crypto]

This is ridonkulously speculative but I'm wondering if Reck is an opposing scum role, which might theoretically give him some incentive to keep his knowledge of ani's role under the wraps. Something's up here and there's only one other option I can think of.

[crypto]

Jesus. Someone hammer now.

[crypto]

Reck, please work with me.

[crypto]

[crypto]

Hammer.

[crypto]

Vote: Kise.

[crypto]

Ok are either of those AWESOME votes in the Reck yesterday sense orrr ?

are you high

[crypto]

Unvote. Vote: Deer.

There's something funky about Kise though and I'm not entirely sold on Deer.

[crypto]

Ha, no.

I just don't understand your awesome manipulation of the English language.

[crypto]

Claim: bi.

[crypto]

Also I retract that claim and cease spam.

[crypto]

Knew there was something off about that hydra.

Zzz. Also. I was joking, and I thought Kise was joking.

Don't worry about Starbuck, ReaperCharlie. She gets a kick out of this sort of bullshit.

[crypto]

I don't know he's not joking. His most recent posts don't look too serious to me. If he's being serious then he's wrong. I'm not about to draw conclusions about his alignment from it but I obviously find him scummy overall, as you can see from the vote I threw up immediately before his shit storm.

Oh, I also find you scummy.

[crypto]

Really I've done a great job keeping myself in check this game. Don't spoil it now.

[crypto]

Actually, if Kise comes back and confirms that he was being serious then I'll gladly self-vote and you guys can lynch him tomorrow (despite there probably being an unreliable dream mechanic).

[crypto]

Reck nags me too but the last time I puzzled over his play he flipped town.

[crypto]

And?

[crypto]

Okay, look. I've only read the first few posts on this page but I'm getting pretty frustrated with the continual BS so here it is in plain, exceedingly comprehensible written English:

I did not visit Chronopie. I've been getting scum vibes from Kise for a while now, and I've also been wondering if there was more to Fate's initial post than we (or I) originally thought.

With that out of the way, there are four explanations of the dream mechanic as I see it (not mutually exclusive):

1. Most obviously but in my opinion least likely, the dreams are a role function of the players who receive them.
   
2. An investigative role sends results of night investigations to another player, either by choice or at random.
   
3. The moderator sends information to a player each night, systematically or at random.
   
4. One way or another, the dream mechanic is unreliable.

If Kise is being serious then evidently there's a twist on the dreams, which, depending on how they work, may or may not confirm Kise's alignment one way or the other. I know option B has been used in other games; if that's the case here then it means nothing. My scum read on Kise stands either way.

In other news, easjo's persistent opposition to the alliance makes me cringe.

[crypto]

Oh, Dry-fit's dream is an interesting and mildly irritating development.

I have no idea what's going on with Kise, but he should definitely be protected tonight if there's a protective role.

Gonna hop on the SpyreX wagon in the near future.

[crypto]

Do we know if this game was a night start or not?

[crypto]

Vote: cyrpto

A bus, kupo?

Crypto, why would I get a result that implies you targeted Chronopie night 1 (now that I think about it, maybe night 2... but still, you'd have to be IN the tunnels to target Chrono night 2)?

I don't know, Kise. I was unaware that you've never come across the extremely common concept that investigative results are not always legitimate. Shame, really. You can draw your own conclusions, smart ass.

*cough!* I must have totally missed that Kise/crypto thing; now that I look, I see that it was concurrent with when I was being omgus'd by the mods.

Cute. New theorem, guys: Mafia players should follow every single guilty report in every single game, automatically and indiscriminately.

Unvote. Vote: ReaperCharlie.

I had a dream where you were scum. Please confess, self-vote, and be lynched now.

[crypto]

Why, inHimshallibe?

[crypto]

Agreeing with you = most town, Spyre?

[crypto]

Spyre's role claim is obviously a convenient one given that it prevents him from getting converted into a werewolf. But I don't see how it's a scum tell. If Dry-fit is telling the truth, though, then it sounds to me like he was converted. I don't think "infected" would be the flavor if he prevented himself from being targeted/infected.

[crypto]

Dry-fit, did your dream literally say he had been infected?

Also, why am I scum?

[crypto]

Reck, are you even fucking paying attention to this game?

[crypto]

Deer, his claim being convenient doesn't make it fake. I'm okay with a Spyre lynch but that's garbage logic.

[crypto]

You're all fucking idiots.

So awful that I can't even be bothered to go into detail. Scum win unless about 80% of the players here replace out.

[crypto]

Be less hypocritical.

[crypto]

That was re: RC.

[crypto]

SV is a fucking horrible lynch compared to easjo. Your play is getting exponentially more idiotic by the post.

[crypto]

Okay. See post 1098.

[crypto]

Oh, by the way, at this point any alliance is bullshit.

[crypto]

With respect to your gut, see post 1098.

[crypto]

With respect to my role, you've already lynched me. With respect to Kise's info, whether or not he made it up has no bearing on whether or not it's accurate. Because, you know, in games of Mafia there are often mechanics that muddy reports.

[crypto]

So crypto: I'm an idiot for going on what I know? Or I'm an idiot because YOU don't want to be lynched?

You are an idiot because you are blindly following night report claims in a game that clearly has a lot of shit going on at night. You don't even think about it. You just mindlessly sheep after it.

P.S. When at L-1, it is customary to claim. Even if it doesn't save you, it'll still be a good laugh for us later when it's false ^_^

It won't save me.

[crypto]

If that was a bus, it was a terrible one.

God, you

must

stop this trend.