Werewolf: Wisborg Asylum: GAME OVER, Innocents Win.

[xRECKONERx]

Kise is teh smurtz.

Seriously though. I need to do moar analysis buuuut I just got God of War III so lol that

[crypto]

ReaperCharlie, have is that meta or have I played with you before?

[ReaperCharlie]

I've seen you post like a crazy person in other games before, yes.

[crypto]

[JackALope2323]

@ Lowell:

For Christ's sake, I seriously don't see why anybody should take the first random vote, even if it is a random self-vote, seriously.

The way people are being giddy about it is definitely a big tell, though. Grabbing for straws, etc.

And I never tried to trivialize the Jester statement. I still am partially convinced that any number of people could potentially be a Jester role, just considering how BLATANTLY scummy they are.

Either that, or really shit scum. I'm betting on either, at this point.

[Dry-fit]

I'm starting to like the case on Chrono now. Given how the game had been going, I don't see how could have believed crypto's vig claim. But as Nightson said, even if he did, this in no way at all justifies a claim. If he really is killed, the mod will tell us his role anyway.

I'd really appreciate some explanations going along with crypto's votes.

[ReaperCharlie]

[dodge]

Maybe explain your question better?

[SpyreX]

I've been covered in RL hate and I see we've got some pages.

Should I even TRY to look back?

[Deer]

Dry-fit: nothing to say about the Jackalope case?

[The Goat]

Reread...further thoughts:

1) The more I read, the more I think that Kise may not have been overreacting to the votes on him...he's just kinda hyper.

2) I'd certainly like to hear a bit more from Lowell after post 321. Lowell, Jack didn't bring up jesters...crypto did. You seem to be pushing him pretty hard based on the self-vote and the "jester" points.

3) I'd also like to hear more from Shattered Viewpoint about this thing we're going to have to wait for, unless I missed the part where it was dismissed as BS-ing.

4) Crypto's a bit funnier than I thought he was at first.

unvote

[The Goat]

Arright. I clearly missed the part where Jackalope started talking about jesters. Somneone help a Goat out.

[The Goat]

@Jackalope: Could you please give a little detail about the "scum points" that you've seen from Fate?

[Merkabah]

JackALope moaning about the town isn't really helpful, but I don't find it particularly scummy. I understand where ReaperCharlie is coming from, but I think there are better paths to pursue right now.

@Merk: I claimed my role after, what I now see to be, a Fake Day-kill post from Crypto, Who had just commented that there was some truth to Reck's SK claim.
Which was also the source what the semi-joke/semi-panic post of 'What? you're actually a Day-killing SK?'

Well, actually you claimed after we voted for you. In that same post you said you didn't know "wtf" Crypto was talking about.

Now, Amished and I were discussing tonight whether or not you as a townie would actually claim your role if you really thought crypto shot you. The first thing that is a real issue here is that crypto never actually said in thread he was going to daykill you. He weakly implied it, but never said it. So, that being the case and you thinking he's Daykill-SK (as you did), why would your immediate reaction be to claim? Wouldn't the more relevant choice be to push his lynch as a scum player?

But let's look beyond that for second. The question is if claiming would be a town reaction in that situation. Merkabah doesn't think so. We think that he would be much more likely to argue how obviously townie he is and push cryptoscum lynch. In iso 3, Chrono implies belief in Reck being a day-vig, so he really has no reason to think crypto is a town vig who offed him at that point. The point is that him claiming just doesn't make sense as a townie reaction there.

To add further confusion to the matter, the next serious thing Chrono does is OMGUS us when we push his lynch. This is opposed to lynching someone he thought was a Daykilling SK or at the very least was attempting to trick him. None of this is a townie mentality.

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I guess I need a new wagon then.

Why's that?

If Chrono is scum then why does he go out of his way to claim VT as opposed to a power role, let alone after he seems to think he is dead?

Because he didn't have access to a powerrole PM. Additionally, I contenst that he didn't even think he was dead. He just wanted to get attention off of him.

May have to revise my stance on Deer.

Why are you only considering switching your stance when you seem to be using the same scumtell as conclusive evidence against Goat?

Merkabah~had posted resonable amounts but keeps bringing up how the scum factions must know what the VT role contains, this just doesn't seem right
most of their posts make little sense, though this could be because it is a two player account so it effectivly reading two people as one.

How many mafia games have you played where the scum do not have access to a sample town PM? If any, why did you not break those games immediately?

As far as not making sense, Amished and I haven't had any disagreements of opinion in this game yet. I don't see what you don't understand or how us having two people would be confusing in any way to you. If you have questions, ask.

@Fate, thoughts on Spyrex please.

Should I even TRY to look back?

Yes, I believe you should. The sooner the better because you're making me uneasy (VP).

[JackALope2323]

@ Goat:

@ Deer: My top scum-read right now is Fate, because of the lurking he's doing, and because of the posts he DOES make whenever he decides to make on. Either less than ten words, or like his most recent post, 290.

May be a bit of an OMGUS, but Fate telling people to get on my wagon for no apparent reason doesn't sit well with me.

His 212, which seems like pushing for ANY wagon, regardless of whether or not there's good reasoning to back it up.

His 213, where he joins up with Crypto just because Crypto thinks he's town. if that's not scummy, I don't know what is.

Also disagreeing with Animorph, without giving any reasoning. Good to notice he was disagreeing with Animorph on lynching Crypto. What's with the buddying?

Not to mention 275, where he jumps on my wagon just because his last one fell apart, and giving no reasoning in doing so.

I'm not voting him just because Reckoning is annoying me more, and I want to see Reckoning make some actual posts. I think he'd be good town, if he would just stop being an asshat.

[inHimshallibe]

Why are you only considering switching your stance when you seem to be using the same scumtell as conclusive evidence against Goat?

You read that wrong, I believe. I was saying I may have to revise my original stance on Deer (I think I pointed this out to be a town read earlier).

[SpyreX]

Yes, I believe you should. The sooner the better because you're making me uneasy (VP).

I almost was ready to declare you for lynching for lyin' there but there is some choice tidbits:

Chrono is probably town.
Crypto is probably town.
Fate is probably town.
YOU are probably town.
Dry-fit is probably town.

Normally this would be allaince time buttt I need to sink my teeth in more before I get fully there.

Jack isn't a terrible lynch but:

Unvote, Vote: Dramonic

I am unapologetically voting for powernothing hypocrisy notwithstanding.

I'd also add to the murderin' list:

lukepukeduke
lowell

[Sucrose]

And I never tried to trivialize the Jester statement. I still am partially convinced that any number of people could potentially be a Jester role, just considering how BLATANTLY scummy they are.

Either that, or really shit scum. I'm betting on either, at this point.

Other than xRx, who? If you're going to say "any number of people are blatantly scummy", name names.

I don’t want to pry at Shattered Viewpoint. If he’s town, he’ll talk when he’s ready, if he’s not town, well…

@Kise. The Goat uses non-RVS reasons to jump on an RVS wagon. It's a little suspicious, yes. Only a stupid, stupid scum would actually think he could get a lynch out of an RVS wagon, though. I'm not moving my vote there.

I’m still convinced almost everything rjpfreak has said has been scummy as hell.

[The Goat]

I don’t want to pry at Shattered Viewpoint. If he’s town, he’ll talk when he’s ready, if he’s not town, well…

I'm just curious why he'd even say something like that in the first place. Struck me as odd.

[The Goat]

I'm apparently too tired to edit properly; was trying to quote Sucrose.

[crypto]

Only a stupid, stupid scum would actually think he could get a lynch out of an RVS wagon, though.

I'm vaguely insulted.

[Merkabah]

@crypto: Why would you be insulted by that?

[crypto]

Because I really was hoping for a lynch there and knowledge that someone thinks such a hope could only be fostered by stupid scum makes me feel icky.

[crypto]

I like Spyre's vote.

[inHimshallibe]

Chrono is probably town.
Crypto is probably town.
Fate is probably town.

Of SpyreX's list, I agree with these.

Merkabah seeming a little scummy, though. I'll review in just a sec.

[SpyreX]

Of my two lists:

1.) You commented on the part I'm far less interested in.
2.) You took the easy road on the first - why, especially, no dry-fit.

I'm watchin you buddy.