Pledge of Allegiance (Game Over! Page 76)

[farside22]

Daykill looked pretty obv fake to me, but Pops is town, and so is Jack. Probably stranger too, and not sure on farside.
Whoever earlier said Red is scum is right! Scum. With Fishy.

I believe it was Llama pointing out RedCoyate.
This game gets a review comment with scum list tomorrow.

[d3x]

What would you say if I told you Gamma majorly scumslipped in our neighbor qt?

Then about 1/2 the players in the game asked you to clarify your statements and/or quote the applicable portion. You have yet to oblige.

[Jack]

Very few answered the question sadly. I don't think you have either.

[DrippingGoofball]

Also, pops is blatantly BS'ing.

What makes you think that?

[DrippingGoofball]

Very few answered the question sadly. I don't think you have either.

If he scumslipped credibly, we're going to lynch him. I assumed your "question" was a rhetorical one.

[farside22]

What question? Sorry I missed it.

[LlamaFluff]

Very few answered the question sadly. I don't think you have either.

If he scumslipped credibly, we're going to lynch him. I assumed your "question" was a rhetorical one.

Actually if Jack just claims he has a QT with him we are lynching him. IIRC gamma already called BS on one existing.

[Parama]

Very few answered the question sadly. I don't think you have either.

It's hard to answer a question like that when you haven't actually given proof of your accusation.

[Jack]

Also, pops is blatantly BS'ing.

What makes you think that?

What use is that as a question? I may as well ask why you think he's telling the truth.

I gave the best detail I could--that his second post accusing you is a poor reason to suspect someone (but, coincidentally, a very good reason to think the daykill is fake--when he is pretending the opposite, and acting like he believes it is real). Since it seems unlikely that he would genuinely suspect someone for such a poor reason (how often do scum have daykills? It's at least unusual. Compare to how often town fake daykills) then we ask ourselves what other purpose could it be. Since most people know that fake daykills are done for reaction purposes at times, it is quite probably that pops knows that. And if pops is scum and knows that, and knows your playstyle also (which he does) he might easily go for the ploy of making as genuine sounding a response as he can. This (given that the reasoning is so poor as to be unlikelier than the alternative explanation that the daykill was fake) is clearly what happened.

[d3x]

I suggested in p369 that you clarify with the Mod to see if you can quote it directly.

[Jack]

Gosh people. Anyway I'm not particularly interested in Gamma or what people think about him right now.

[imaginality]

Jack, you said Gamma 'majorly scumslipped' in your QT, but in your more recent post (iso 53) you said you see him as 'a bit more town now' because of his in-game comment about needing to claim something. Where do you stand on the scum slip now? Are you going to post it now you have mod permission to quote from the QT?


Pops's reaction to the daykill seems fairly null-tell to me. If anything there's a slightly odd calmness to it that makes me more inclined to agree with Jack and Coug. My gut says town-pops would have been a bit more irritated by the kill.


The xvart wagon seems okay to me, and I have town reads on most of the people on it (as compared with the Jack wagon). Earlier on I was giving xvart some could-be-weak-town-player cred, but he hasn't improved. Among the particular things that stand out, his third comment in iso12 was an inadequate answer to Llama, and him asking for more votes from pops seems a touch hypocritical.

##Unvote;
##Vote: xvart

[Jack]

That post is AKA "pops is blatantly BS'ing" btw.

[imaginality]

Cross-posted with a bunch of posts. Did Gamma deny the existence of a QT? *looks back* Ah, yep. Makes the above question redundant then if the QT thing was just another of Jack's posting-for-reactions comments.

Now that Avatar Mafia has finished I can say that Jack's D1 play here with stuff like that QT and the cult thing reminds me of his 'other scumgroups' comment in that game, where he turned out to be town. I haven't seen him play as scum though. Jack, can you provide a link to a game with you as scum?

[Jack]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 64&start=0

This is the one Red is using in his meta argument (one of the reasons he's scum btw).

[DrippingGoofball]

What question? Sorry I missed it.

"What would you say if I told you Gamma majorly scumslipped in our neighbor qt?"

[DrippingGoofball]

Very few answered the question sadly. I don't think you have either.

If he scumslipped credibly, we're going to lynch him. I assumed your "question" was a rhetorical one.

Actually if Jack just claims he has a QT with him we are lynching him. IIRC gamma already called BS on one existing.

Is that true? I was assuming they were masons, and that Jack thought his mason was scum.

[LlamaFluff]

Got it

Did RC just post a giant quote wall in which he complained about short posts creating too much noise? Yes. At least he sees gamma as scummy.

What would you say if I told you Gamma majorly scumslipped in our neighbor qt?

To this hypothetical scenario, I would say that we are in fact not neighbors

[Ellibereth]

I thought that Jack was faking that.

[LlamaFluff]

Yeah thats the conclusion ive come to. Now im just trying to figure out if xvart or RC should die first

[Jack]

Is that true? I was assuming they were masons, and that Jack thought his mason was scum.

Masons!?

[Ellibereth]

Yeah thats the conclusion ive come to. Now im just trying to figure out if

xvart

FISHY or RC should die first

Editted.
Go with the one we agree on?

Vote: Red

[Ellibereth]

##Unvote

##Vote: Red

I'm tempted to just ask all of them to claim. Reaaaally am. But not yet.

[DrippingGoofball]

Is that true? I was assuming they were masons, and that Jack thought his mason was scum.

Masons!?

You claimed a QT in which the other player scum slipped. What other choice is there other than a mason that is trustworthy no more?

[Jack]

The post specified neighbors.