Pledge of Allegiance (Game Over! Page 76)

[zoraster]

Day 2 Vote Count

charter ( 0 )
Chronopie ( 0 )
d3x ( 0 )
Debonair Danny DiPietro ( 0 )
DrippingGoofball ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 0 )
farside22 ( 0 )
fishythefish ( 3 ) DrippingGoofball Chronopie LLamaFluff
Gammagooey ( 0 )
imaginality ( 0 )
Jack ( 0 )
StrangerCoug ( 0 )
LLamaFluff ( 0 )
Nicodemus ( 0 )
phate ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 1 ) Jack
RedCoyote ( 2 ) Ellibereth Plum
Shotty to the Body ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
Plum ( 0 )
Zorblag ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 15 ) fishythefish UncertainKitten StrangerCoug charter phate Debonair Danny DiPietro Zorblag farside22 Nicodemus Shotty to the Body imaginality d3x RedCoyote Gammagooey popsofctown
Total Votes ( 21 )

Deadline: May 24th at 11:00 EDT
With 21 able to vote, 11 needed to lynch.

[Plum]

##Unvote

## Vote: Fishy

[Gammagooey]

Cool.

##Vote: Fishy

L-6.

[Ellibereth]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

##Unvote

##Vote: Fishy

[popsofctown]

The post used to say that the player's name would not be announced until night, that the player about to be modkilled would not post, and that anyone else could post. So there was a loophole where anyone who posted was confirming that they were not the modkilled player.

Since players had to send in night actions, posting gave away to scum that you were a valid night target, so it wasn't in your best interest to post, I was pointing that out.


This is why editting posts can be so confusing.

[Jack]

Is this an "I got a guilty result on him" kind of "fishy isn't town"? "Non-hostile other" would be not town you know. Be more specific.

[LlamaFluff]

Is this an "I got a guilty result on him" kind of "fishy isn't town"? "Non-hostile other" would be not town you know. Be more specific.

*sigh*

Do I really need to give the "things like survivors are not town aligned so you lynch them" speech here?

[d3x]

Hmm... Chrono is not Voting Fishy, thus she did not get a Scum result in whatever investigation. I'll withhold my Fishy Vote for the moment.

[d3x]

Wait, wtf? I missed that unvote something fierce...

##Vote:Fishy

[LlamaFluff]

Hmm... Chrono is not Voting Fishy, thus she did not get a Scum result in whatever investigation. I'll withhold my Fishy Vote for the moment.

What votecount are you looking at?

[d3x]

The original Vote for the Day from Chrono was on you. I missed the UnVote/Vote switch in the middle of the quick Votes.

[Jack]

Is this an "I got a guilty result on him" kind of "fishy isn't town"? "Non-hostile other" would be not town you know. Be more specific.

*sigh*

Do I really need to give the "things like survivors are not town aligned so you lynch them" speech here?

I can't see me being enthused about a survivor lynch.

Anyway, it isn't clear yet whether fishy is scum or chrono is panicky scum.

Disliking Jack, UK, Fishy, VP/Plum.

Still don't see Fishy as particularly scummy.

I skim read Fishy's Iso, makes a few good points, few slightly scummy points, overall neutral assessment.

[LlamaFluff]

There is also one more thing I want to take care of before the day ends, it shouldnt take more than 24 real life hours, but I really want to look into it before the day ends. So please no quicklynch.

[LlamaFluff]

Is this an "I got a guilty result on him" kind of "fishy isn't town"? "Non-hostile other" would be not town you know. Be more specific.

*sigh*

Do I really need to give the "things like survivors are not town aligned so you lynch them" speech here?

I can't see me being enthused about a survivor lynch

Yes

Ok...

all neutral roles are not aligned with the town, and will not play with the best interest of the town in mind. This is especially true if they have what they view as a win opportunity. A survivor will claim and vote with scum near the end of the game, jester will claim and just ask to be lynched by scum. No good comes from leaving a neutral player alive. They arent going to scumhunt, they arent going to ever help the town, they are just an anti-town role with no kill. So you lynch them.

[popsofctown]

neaux kwiklinch hee ses

[popsofctown]

So can we lynch Jack since he doesn't seem to be aligned with the town, you ninja? kthx.

[Jack]

Ok...

all neutral roles are not aligned with the town, and will not play with the best interest of the town in mind. This is especially true if they have what they view as a win opportunity. A survivor will claim and vote with scum near the end of the game, jester will claim and just ask to be lynched by scum. No good comes from leaving a neutral player alive. They arent going to scumhunt, they arent going to ever help the town, they are just an anti-town role with no kill. So you lynch them.

I'd rather take a shot at scum than a known survivor. If there aren't any good leads then it makes sense obviously. And waiting to see if there's a vig makes sense too.

[Nicodemus]

I need clarification from chronopie before I put my vote on fishy as to what he is implying with the "fishy isn't town" comment, so for now

##vote: RedCoyote

[RedCoyote]

Nico, do you have reason to doubt Chrono?

##Vote: Fishythefish

If my playstyle is a problem, which everyone seems to indicate (Elli, Llama, Plum, Nico, etc), then you need to be upfront about that. I'm trying to get on here and keep up pace with you people, but I'd suggest you start thinking and talking with me one-on-one and not just bending to someone's will who makes a blanket "RC and Fishy must be partners because he thinks Fishy is town" statement. Coming after Fishy yesterday with no real evidence besides "seems the most scummy in group of X = proven scum". I don't see the tangible case against him. I like his posts. If Chrono has an accurate report, then I'll stand corrected.

Parama's flip = farside is still a direction we need to push btw. Jack, pops, xvart, and SttB should all still be on the table as well.

So it's proven that Jack lied about his role now, correct?

[Jack]

So it's proven that Jack lied about his role now, correct?

Who are you asking, and why are you asking rather than explicitly telling?

[RedCoyote]

It's more rhetorical.

I'm lagging behind the game, but I think more people are in a rush to post their useless little twitter blurbs rather than following through on anything. Parama's Modkill shouldn't give us a free pass to screw around today. We need to get, like, FBI serious here.

You know what? No, I'm not going to do this. I didn't like Cobalt, and I don't really see how Chrono has been much of an improvement.

##Unvote
##Vote: Jack

This needs to be done. Jack is not town-aligned. Even if Chrono has something incriminating against Fishy, Jack is still not on the town's side. I don't know how I can be paired with Fishy when Jack is sitting there trying to rolefish Chrono, Gamma, and whoever else. I'm not comfortable with his style.

[Jack]

What was it you didn't like about Cobalt? Be specific

You are upset at being paired with Fishy it seems.

[RedCoyote]

What is it you liked? He only posted two words, and one of them was vote.

[LlamaFluff]

You know what? No, I'm not going to do this. I didn't like Cobalt, and I don't really see how Chrono has been much of an improvement.

Cobalt was complete null read, and I agree that chrono was scum read, untill he heavily breadcrumbed a non-town result on fishy. Then he became town.

Jack might be an ok person to direct a kill towards at night, almost just because I dont trust him not to do something foolish, but im not for lynching him right now.

Remember

1) No quicklynch (24 hours needed)
2) Chrono needs to post again before day ends
3) We may as well have a fishy post too

[Jack]

Did I say I liked Cobalt? Hmm I don't think I did.

What was it you didn't like? I mean, I can see not "liking" people who don't post and get replaced. But you found cobalt scummy? And yet object to specifics being asked about Chrono's role? And to Nico doubting Chrono?