Pledge of Allegiance (Game Over! Page 76)

[Fishythefish]

Sorry, I should have made that clear initially. Claiming my ability does

not

count as a claim from the point of view of "surviving unclaimed". Only things related to flavour and alignment count.

[UncertainKitten]

@Zorblag: See: outsiders in Legacy of the Ancients mafia, large theme by Tar.

Fishy's role sounds almost EXACTLY like that.

[farside22]

Fishy is lying thru his teeth. Please tell everyone why you targetted RC last night.

##Vote Fishy

[Fishythefish]

@farside: what?

[farside22]

@farside: what?

Did I stutter?

[Fishythefish]

Are you claiming to have a report that has me visiting RC?

If so, I have nothing to say except that it's false. I didn't visit RC last night.

[farside22]

Are you claiming to have a report that has me visiting RC?

If so, I have nothing to say except that it's false. I didn't visit RC last night.

Well unless someone wants to say the buss drove me elsewhere I do have a report of you having gone to see red coyate.
So since I don't believe your lying ass at all I would rather just lynch you.

[Jack]

Hmm, it's almost a shame with all the detail in that claim.

[UncertainKitten]

I'd say that is a very convincing tracker result.

However, I think Fishy is either at L-2 or L-3 at this point. So no more votes until we resolve this.

[farside22]

I will say on the heels of Chronopie claim this comment is even more scummier

Actually, I'm currently a non-hostile neutral effective townie. Having (mostly) claimed, I get nothing for survival.

This is caught scum trying to swing his wincon into a townie view. He should be lynched.

[Fishythefish]

I realise that at this point my situation is dire. I'm going to make it a little bit worse.

While my roleclaim contains nothing that isn't true, it isn't quite the whole story either. There is a good reason not to quicklynch me. I can see that I'm most likely the lynch today, whatever happens. But I can provide information for the town that will be helpful after I'm gone (and flipped non-hostile). I can do this during the day. I ask not to be lynched for a couple of RL days. What I say after that probably won't derail my lynch, but it may well help the town, and the town winning is a good thing for me.

The reason I haven't claimed the ability I propose to use now is that it is one case where the town's interests and mine aren't precisely the same. It is protown whenever I use it, but possibly better for my modified win con if I used it a little later. The fact that I'm about to be lynched obviously changes that somewhat.

So. Give me a little time. I have a little more claiming to do, and then you can get on with lynching me.

I really, really didn't visit RC, though .

[farside22]

*mechine picks up*
I'm sorry the number you reached that has a PM in her box saying that you targetted RedCoyote is not a figment of her imagination. If you feel you reached this number in error please explain in details how this error could occur.

Beep!

[RedCoyote]

I do know someone visited me, and I suggest they don't do it again.

[farside22]

I decided that Fish does not deserve leeway and asked the mod a question about if I was to be bus driven some how.
In short I would know who I tracked and would be told who I tracked and to whom.
If you have any doubt now.

##confirm vote: Fishy

Please explain doubt to my vote.

[DrippingGoofball]

I do know someone visited me, and I suggest they don't do it again.

Mmm. Looks like Fishy's visit isn't the sort that one welcomes.

I BELIEVE FARSIDE - the fire of truth burns in her belly.

[LlamaFluff]

I believe farside knows fishy targeted RC.

I am not ready to lynch fishy. There are now two things I need to accomplish before the day ends.

@fishy - Who, if anyone, did you target last night?

##unvote

[RedCoyote]

I've been seriously mulling this over. I haven't felt good about farside at all, but I know for sure that I was roleblocked last night. It doesn't help that the website is not running very smoothly for me right now.

Fishy, who did you target yesterday if it wasn't me?

##Unvote

Ugh. It's a total shot to my pride if Fishy is my Roleblocker and farside is the one who uncovered this. Screw it; go big or go home.

##Vote: Fishythefish

(Unofficially, this puts Fishy at L-1)

[LlamaFluff]

I've been seriously mulling this over. I haven't felt good about farside at all, but I know for sure that I was roleblocked last night. It doesn't help that the website is not running very smoothly for me right now.

Fishy, who did you target yesterday if it wasn't me?

##Unvote

Ugh. It's a total shot to my pride if Fishy is my Roleblocker and farside is the one who uncovered this. Screw it; go big or go home.

##Vote: Fishythefish

(Unofficially, this puts Fishy at L-1)

Well offically take him off L-1. Im very very serious. If anyone lynches today before I am ready I will do my best to get a gun pointed at them.

Although oddly enough im thinking there is a far less chance RC is scum than before, other is an option but im doubting scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Well offically take him off L-1. Im very very serious. If anyone lynches today before I am ready I will do my best to get a gun pointed at them.

Better state clear objectives.

Townies don't suffer non-townies to live.

[LlamaFluff]

Well offically take him off L-1. Im very very serious. If anyone lynches today before I am ready I will do my best to get a gun pointed at them.

Better state clear objectives.

Townies don't suffer non-townies to live.

I need one thing im watching to resolve today, hopefully a second. Both of them are going to be far more benificial if they get done before a lynch as opposed to twilight.

[Ellibereth]

OK

##Unvote

[Jack]

Yeah, no need to rush.

[charter]

Charter- did you read the first sentence of my 388? (you can ignore the rest since Jazz's scum-lurking in another game means almost nothing now that she's been replaced)

Yes I did, but I want Jack to explain what he's talking about.

@Llama, charter, Parama: You paid lip service to this wagon (and in Parama's case voted). Do you share the conviction that EVERY SINGLE ONE of
Ellibereth LLamaFluff ojanen Nicodemus charter UncertainKitten VP Baltar
is town? Do you think that an 8 person wagon is significantly more likely to contain scum than a random group of 8 people?

No, but that's not why I'm suspicious of you, either. I do think that most of them are town, however.

Who wants me lynched and why? What can I get informed on briefly, because I have an AP test tomorrow I really ought to be cramming for?

I do, because you're scum.

Pops is probably town.

We should lynch Jack. He's a massive distraction to anything productive, isn't scumhunting, and is pretty much dead weight.

526 by Chronopie is scummy as hell. He's telling others to discuss meaningful stuff but he's not doing that.

On gamma claiming PGO, I'm inclined to believe it.

Ok, I think Chronopie is probably a third party. I don't think his scumbuddies would let him try and launch an attack on Llama. A dumb thing to do right now.

Do I really need to give the "things like survivors are not town aligned so you lynch them" speech here?

I'm pretty sure everyone here knows that you lynch anyone not town with absolutely no lenience or discrimination.

Jack's scumminness just soars up with every post he makes.

Lol, fishy's claim. I read to "I'm not town" and that was far enough.
Was going to vote Fishy, but I'll let Llama do whatever he wants first.

After Fishy, my top suspects are Jack, then Plum, with some Chronopie and probably Phate/Shotty/Stranger rounding out my scumspicions.

[Jack]

I get 526 by chronopie as being scummy. Third party speculation is off, because "his scumbuddies wouldn't let him" is not a good reason (it's not like they are dictating his every move). I get wanting to vote fishy. Don't get not reading the claim, and really don't get not mentioning chronopies claim.

[Fishythefish]

RC was roleblocked last night? That's the last fucking nail in the coffin. I'm dead.

My priority is to do what's best for my faction now. This means I'm not going to tell you everything. I want the town to win, so it's in my interests to tell you some stuff. All I'm asking is a couple of days. It

will

help the town. At the end of that, lynch me. You will still not be able to trust my information - but there's at least a decent chance that at some stage in the game, you will be grateful for it.

I will state unequivocally at this point that I did not (intentionally) visit RC last night, and I do not have an action that would roleblock someone.

I did visit someone last night. I doubt I'm going to claim who, because I've no intention of giving away what that action is. It's a protown action, but frankly my points rivals already know plenty about me.

Please. From your points of view, I am overwhelmingly likely to be scum or scummy other. But we are in the very rare case were I happen to be fundamentally protown other who got bussed onto someone who got roleblocked while doing an action that it wasn't in their interests to put in their claim. It sucks, and I don't expect not to be lynched. It'll probably take me about 24 hours from this post to do something protown (and pro-me). At most, it'll be 48. Then lynch the hell out of me.

In the scenario that, at some point, there is a reason to believe I was being broadly truthful today - nothing I've said has been a direct lie. The points system is as I described, and my targets are a subset of real points conditions, all of which align with the town's interests to a large extent.

I'll claim what I'm going to as soon as I can - I've no intention of stalling for time.

I urge some people to unvote. I am very near a lynch, it is not in the town's interests to lynch me without hearing me out.