Mini 968 - Bastard Mass Effect (Game Over)

[VP Baltar]

@ Reck - wtf are you talking about picked up Parama's gun? You had a choice of equipment to pick up from him?

[animorpherv1]

That makes sense, but someone else ahs to confirm that.

P.S. Called it.

P.S.S. Reck's role, after checking Mass Effect Wiki, sorta checks out. The only problem is that he could also be a survivor, who picked up the gun and is claiming vig. Or he didn't pick up a gun at all, and is lying.

[Col.Cathart]

a) True, Thane is an assassin, but with a very strong moral code. He pledged loyalty to Shepard, and after doing such a thing, he couldn't betray him.

He's also at the verge of dying from a disease, and he joined Shepard after fulfilling his last contract in his career. Quest with Shepard will be last in his life, so he has even more reason NOT to spill blood of his crewmates.

b) Cult Leader stepping up to counter a vig claim, when it doesn't concern any cult at all? That makes no sense at all... (same thing with an SK to a lesser extent. Why should I counter-claim while being SK, if we're still from any end game situation, being caught with a lie means lynch, AND the fact, that vig claim still doesn't point in any bad way at me?) Very stupid assumption.

c) Everyone who played ME2 as a Renegade knows, that Garrus can act like an awful dick.

[VP Baltar]

less worrying about flavor, more mafia playing.

I really don't like that you guys weren't shooting at bv310 or lukepukeduke btw. Those were pretty obvious vig baits.

Where is Fate?

[animorpherv1]

a) Could possibly mean he is a Survivor, but with a Bastard Twist and has a gun.

b) So Cult doesn't die, and he gains town-credit

c) Doesn't apply to me. Never played ME/ME2. But beigna dick doesn't guarantee someone to be a SK. It means they have anger issuses.

[Col.Cathart]

Whoa, yet another Vig?

True dat though, Joker WILL do anything for Normandy and Shepard. Considering his disease, I think it is possible for him to work with half (or even lower) rate success...

[Col.Cathart]

less worrying about flavor, more mafia playing.

I really don't like that you guys weren't shooting at bv310 or lukepukeduke btw. Those were pretty obvious vig baits.

That was my initial plan, but after that D1 hammer from ani, I wanted to test the water on DB/ani pairing.

a) Could possibly mean he is a Survivor, but with a Bastard Twist and has a gun.

b) So Cult doesn't die, and he gains town-credit

c) Doesn't apply to me. Never played ME/ME2. But beigna dick doesn't guarantee someone to be a SK. It means they have anger issuses.

a) Survivor with a fatal disease. Yeah, that makes sense

b) Cult dies with a cult leader. And even if not, usually loses chances to recruit. Even if not, it's still such a reckless action, it hurts.

c) Doesn't guarantee, but makes it a possibility.

[animorpherv1]

a) Trying to survive to the End of the mission

b) It lowers the chances of them being hit. By saying that everyone in the cult is 'town".

c) This possibility = 0%.

[Kerristar]

kerristar - why were you thinking of ani over night?

Thought of ani because I hated his hammer and wanted to have some background if he tried worming around it.

Three vig types? Freaking crazy.

@ani: I find the cult idea unappealing, it doesn't make much sense at all.

[animorpherv1]

I understand, but I find it's a possiblity.

[TonyMontana]

19.) Outguessing the mod is discouraged, but not illegal. It just won't help.

Dumbest rule I ever made.
Outguessing the mod is highly encouraged, as it is highly entertaining for me.

[Doombunny9]

Can't tell a lot from peoples associations with Parama. It seems that pretty much everybody thought he was scummy so Can't tell that much.

Well, I guess I should explain why I hammered since everyone is mad at me, etc.

When I heard Parama essentially say that he could kill, I thought he was either a SK or a mafia member, because I am a vig. Last night, I shot KerriStar because he had the most votes on him, but it didn't go through.

My flavour has stuff about me having Extensive military training, and being a former C-Sec officer. I am Garrus Vakarian.

Claiming early=fail. Even if you will "probably be asked for it" that doesn't mean you should. The reason for the hammer is valid at least although still early. I'll be watching you.

My own role, unless there are two vigs in here (incidentally, I send a kill message against you, but for some reason it didn't work).

Answer for the obvious question someone will ask in a while: I'm Thane Krios.

Another claim... way to go. At least you have a good reason to claim.

Hi, let me find some stuff about your charachter:

1. Your an assain (sounds like a SK to me)
2. Deeply spritiual (Can lead to being a Cult leader as well)
3. Asks forgivness after each kill (WHAT?!?!?! This makes no sense to have as a town role. You'll just die while parying. Also reason to belive your a CL.)

This is a bastard mafia. Flavor means almost nothing here. Finally, how does reason three show that he's scummy?

Yes, I shot Doombunny last night - I can only shoot on odd nights. I'm Joker and my flavor involves me doing anything to protect this ship. When Parama died, I picked up his gun and became an odd night vig.

Loling at the three vigs. Can you elaborate more on the "picked up Paramas" gun bit? Did you keep your abilities (if you had any) from before you picked up the gun?

Anyway, I'd be willing to beleive all three of them are vigs due to the fact that this is a bastard mod. However, there would probably be a way to even this out, hence the lack of any deaths other than MMM's (which I assume if from the maf) due to the fact that there may be certain conditions to a successful shot. However, I am beginning to doubt that Ani is a vig due to her quick hammer and for trying to debunk the col. based on only flavor.

[animorpherv1]

3 = Cult Leader. IMo, Col = 3rd Party.

[animorpherv1]

Ok, from what I can see, there are 3 options:

1. There is 1 vig, and at least 1 3rd Party (not likley)
2. There are 2 vigs, and 1 3rd Party member (most likley)
3. There actually are 3 vigs, and we are going at this wrong (Less liklely than 2, but more likley than 1).

I'm saying 2 is our best shot, as it

seems

to be what it should be. 3 Would be next most likley because from Tony's last post, he could be toying with us. 1 Seems not very likley, to have 2 3rd Party members, that (IMO) are most liklly 2 SKs.

[VP Baltar]

The reason for the hammer is valid at least although still early.

I am beginning to doubt that Ani is a vig due to her quick hammer

Let me know when logic comes back to the game. Hey mod, can I chill with you in the laugh boat for awhile?

[animorpherv1]

Ok, from what I can see, there are 3 options:

1. There is 1 vig, and at least 1 3rd Party (not likley)
2. There are 2 vigs, and 1 3rd Party member (most likley)
3. There actually are 3 vigs, and we are going at this wrong (Less liklely than 2, but more likley than 1).

I'm saying 2 is our best shot, as it

seems

to be what it should be. 3 Would be next most likley because from Tony's last post, he could be toying with us. 1 Seems not very likley, to have 2 3rd Party members, that (IMO) are most liklly 2 SKs.

Woops. that last bit should be "1 Seems less likley, because with 1 mafia, 1+ SK (could be other 3rd Party) seems a bit underpowered, IMO.

[xRECKONERx]

I had no abilities before, but was told in my opening PM that if anyone dropped a gun, I'd have the option to pick it up in order to better defend my ship.

[VP Baltar]

I had no abilities before, but was told in my opening PM that if anyone dropped a gun, I'd have the option to pick it up in order to better defend my ship.

So your role said vanilla but you were really a back-up vig?

[Fate]

Here reading:

First thoughts:

Tony, you delicious bastard...

[Fate]

Oh hell, don't we have a funfest of killsprees going on at night?

Ani this scrambling of role speculation (a cult leader who CCs vig?) to discredit Colonel just screams SK to me. You figured your character (Garrus) would be seen as a "good" guy and just full-on claimed out of the gate.

Also, "I shot Kerristar because he had the most votes on him" uhhhh? You know scum vote D1 too? You know lukepukeduke and bv310 were MUCH better vig targets (besides you, who Colonel apparently shot). This just seems like you made a kill you could pass off as "vig-like" because some of town wanted KS lynched yesterday.

oh I forgot the cherry on top. "I know nothing about the flavor (take my word for it pl0x) so full claiming early shows I'm really Garrus and really a good guy!"

Vote: animorph

As an aside, since luke and bv310

are

still in the game, let's have more from you two please.

[Fate]

As for the rest of the players, xRECKx's Joker claim makes me lean town (don't see how scum would think of that odd a role/claim they now have a kill)

So here's mah neutral/scum list:
Doom
Kerristar
Luke
Bv310
Ani

Limerick is at slight town for now but I want to see his reaction to this whole mess.

[VP Baltar]

Unvote, Vote: animorph

Now that claim madness appears to be over, I think my thoughts are closest in line with Fate's. I don't really feel that all of our vigs are probably on the up and up, and well early claim scumtell ftw.

[Doombunny9]

Let me know when logic comes back to the game. Hey mod, can I chill with you in the laugh boat for awhile?

I see nothing wrong with this. Ani's reason for voting=Ok, albeit a bit paranoid. The earliness of the lynch=not ok.

Anyway, as said before, Ani would be my top scum/third party pick. The col woould be my next choice for a lynch if Ani flips town and Reckoner seems pretty townish to me.

@The Col and Ani- Do you have any ideas as to why your shots didn't go through?

[Doombunny9]

Oh shit, relized I didn't have my vote on Ani (thought I put it in in post 261 but meh).

Vote: Ani

[xRECKONERx]

I agree - if anyone is going to be a lying vig out of the other two, it'd be ani.

Vote ani

PS please don't vig bv310, he's town.