Mini 961: Insane Asylum II: GAME OVER :O!

[UncertainKitten]

The Tenth "Nymphomania" Vote Count

"Hypersexuality is an abnormally increased desire to engage in sexual activities at a level high enough to be considered problematic and clinically significant. The concept replaced the older concepts of nymphomania (or furor uterinus) and satyriasis. Nymphomania was believed to be a female psychological disorder characterized by a hyperactive sex desire and an obsession with sex, and lowered sexual inhibitions, and the sufferer of this condition was colloquially referred as a "nymphomaniac", "nympho" or "sex addict"."

Mod Note: Apparently bv310 will be replaced if he doesn't post in 45 minutes. Great, and I'm out of quick go tos for replacement .

0. UncertainKitten (0)
1. magnus_orion (0)
2. StrangerCoug (2): SocioPath, Iecerint
3. SocioPath (3): bv310, Leech, Glork
4. farside22 (0)
5. Glork (0)
6. Leech (0)
7. Tarhalindur (2): Slicey, Snow_Bunny
8. bv310 (0)
9. Haylen (0)
10. Iecerint (0)
11. Slicey (0)
12. Snow_Bunny (4): Tarhalindur, farside22, magnus_orion, StrangerCoug,

Not Voting (1): Haylen,

Snow_Bunny is at L-3

Prod Clock (New): 45 hours
Players still needing to respond to prod: Leech

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline is in 9 days at 3:00 PM EST, Monday, May 24th, 2010

[bv310]

I'm sorry, please replace me. I can not get into this game, and I'd rather not make this a chore.

Understood. I'm sorry it wasn't fun for you. I'll see who I can find

[Leech]

I tried a few times to post a V/LA for Sat/Sun, but kept getting the white screen on the posting.php I'll try to get a content post up by Sunday evening. Long work schedule this weekend, sorry guys.

Don't you just LOVE the server?

[UncertainKitten]

So, Slicey and S_B are getting some prods in here now

[DrippingGoofball]

I agreed to replace "bv310"

Waiting on role PM.

[Iecerint]

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

Thank you, Miss Kitten. <3

[UncertainKitten]

DGB replaces bv310. However, since she is just so on top of things, you already knew that.

[DrippingGoofball]

The yellow letters on black background are making my eyes bleed.

Tough. Be glad I at least use spoiler tags

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm on page 2 and I want to say that SocioPath is town.

[DrippingGoofball]

The whole confusing thing. That's the problem with Glork's claim. I'm not saying he's scum or anything like that, but it raises my suspicious level on him.

Declaring oneself to be confused = scummy
Saying a player is suspicious, but not suspicious = scummy

[DrippingGoofball]

@Glork: Voting for yourself is helping how?

I will answer this question as soon as you answer a question of mine:
Why is your vote still on known town?

This is blatant hypocrisy, for one thing. Chances are you know your alignment and win condition; you have no good reason for your vote either.

For another thing, you're

STILL

treating Iecerint as confirmed, i.e. nobody votes him; end of discussion. It's fine to think Iecerint is obvtown, and I admit the two concepts are related, but they're not identical.

Way to go completely out of your way to justify a boring vote by answering a question directly asked towards somebody else about their vote specifically.

I'm sure you'll call this OMGUS, but

Uvnote, Vote: StrangerCoug

. I don't see this type of zealotry as being likely protown.

I disagree with Glork here. I totally see SC's point of view, he said something I might have said myself.

[DrippingGoofball]

So your question to me about voting for a known town was what?

It was me being intentionally obtuse at the start of a mafia game for the purposes of generating discussion.

A simlar example can be found in these three posts from NY60: Face-to-Face.

I don't like this post at all. Including the bringing up one's own meta. It's WIFOM-sauce.

[farside22]

SP - first 9 post looks like fluff nonsense. I need links to OS mafia. I'm not seeing the connection here this post doesn't make sense

In fact, if you pay attention, you'll notice the exact opposite happening.
Timeline dictates that I'm responding to him, not him to me.
Glork is being intentionally dismissive and condescending in my direction, in order to claim a higher ground to not respond legitimately.

I'm not seeing this. I think you both were acting poorly toward each other. I can also see that you seem to try and get a rise out of Glork

Doing something stupid?
Like outing yourself as scum?
Or Coug as your partner?

This is just stupid. Are you really even making a case at this point?

For what it's worth, NOTHING IS A NULL-TELL.
As long as a person is posting in game, everything has a reason always.

This is false many things people do are null tells based on meta. If they do it in one game as town and another as scum it means he's showing it as null.
Why are you being reactionary towards Glork? What is the point of it?

You are certainly second on my list, don't pretend that you are not.
Pity that SC has tied himself to you so strongly.

I'm reading this as you know SC will flip scum and then tie Glork to it.

That is quite the non sequitur.
He is the one that mentioned 'doing something stupid' and saying I was 'failing' meaning that there would be methods that wouldn't, as he said, 'fail' at doing such.
Meaning its possible.
Don't have to be "idiotic scum" to screw up as scum.

Screw up = doing something stupid?
You still are not explaining yourself well on your case. Why is Glork reading scum to you?
Note found link to OS will read later.

SC's unvote and the reasons for such were SO FAKE, and completely disregarded the role that most often has inside knowledge of town...that being scum.
SC had a weak attack on Glork, either to distance or to try to get something to stick.
He couldn't keep it up, and therefore dropped the attacks, and slinked into a corner to let the more vocals take over.

This just means that SC is more likely scum in this view how does this connect to Glork?
The rest of this about glork I find meh and unworthy of a scum tell.

The case on Glork is full of nothing scummy I found. SC point is valid.
Note again reading OS and reading SP in iso it seems sporadic in the beginning. God this guy is erratic.
Based on just reading OS he reads erratic I want to look at the other games when I have more time.
This game the only thing I found worth any value was his SC point the rest is just not a case. I don't know scum to attack others in this fashion unless Glork/SC/SP scum together (which I doubt)
I find the lack of case or clarity on his Glork is scum concerning and worth keeping an eye him.

[DrippingGoofball]

Could both glork and bv310 explain this?

SP was being senselessly disruptive and trying as hard as possible to forge a link between Glork and StrangerCoug. Coug's unvote on me was reasonable, and SP immediately jumped into "YOU GUYS ARE DISTANCING SCUMBUDDIES" mode.

VERY certain that SP is town. At first I got a scum vibe from Glork, but then he wavered, in a very credible way, and what I believe was actually happening was that SC was fanning the flames of a town vs. town dispute.

I've got SB and SC earmarked as scumbags. I have a few pages to read, but I wanted to write this one down in case I forget it later.

[DrippingGoofball]

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/940/insaneasylum.jpg

= town

[DrippingGoofball]

SC started out townie at first, then degenerated into scum territory. SB was never town. But since I love a good horse race:

2. StrangerCoug (2): SocioPath, Iecerint
12. Snow_Bunny (4): Tarhalindur, farside22, magnus_orion, StrangerCoug,

I like the players on both these wagons. Except StrangerCoug, whose vote looks like a late wagon bus.

unvote, vote: StrangerCoug

[Iecerint]

I totally missed MO's cute chart. Looks accurate, too, as far as I'm concerned, messiness notwithstanding.

[DrippingGoofball]

I totally missed MO's cute chart. Looks accurate, too, as far as I'm concerned, messiness notwithstanding.

Completely useless, but 100% town thought process. I'm sure he can't draw conclusions from it either (I should know, I tried those graphical methods before, though in a simpler format).

[magnus_orion]

eh... DGB probably has a point actually... snow_bunny, if you ever do get around to answering my questions, throw in your opinion on coug.

[Glork]

Hi. I'm here, kinda lurking.


I personally don't see the benefit to a chart like the one MO posted, but to each his own. To me, finding scum is usually more in the posts themselves and ebb/flow of the game.

DGB makes a disturbing amount of sense in her initial posts. The paranoid part of me is thinking about CT III, but otherwise her posts look very good so far.

I would be content to hop on a wagon of either Coug or Bunny. I'm also going to stop using SC/SP/SB because for some reason they keep getting me mixed up.

Not much else to say on my end. I feel like the day has dragged on too long.

Unvote, Vote: StrangerCoug

for parity's sake. I'm interested to see which way the scales tip from here.

[SocioPath]

The ebb and flow of this game is interesting.

SP - first 9 post looks like fluff nonsense.

Then you aren't looking hard enough.
I mean, I know that some of the stuff I say can be fairly cryptic, but those Iec posts are very much not fluff nonsense or even appear as such.

[farside22]

SC:
post 70
votes for glork for bugging him and does his miller claim after 2 other people. I don't like that mention of 3 millers in the last game comment as almost a confirmation of it being possible without showing a link.

For the record there was three miller claims in the game insane 1
1 was a death miller and the other 2 were regular millers.

I don't understand the unvote here. You were not orginally voting him based on his iec is town comment.
please point to where glork defended himself against your orginal gut feeling.
Why didn't you say in your orginal case that you thought he was scum because "due to definite knowledge of town"?

I simply am not in the habit of claiming roles right off the bat, simply because it's not beneficial for most of them. It only came to immediate mind when the other miller claims were coming in.

Actually reading the first few pages of insane you said pretty much the same thing on claiming there. Did you reread the game?

I'm leaning town on the two people you mention here. As for scum other than SocioPath, I'd probably draw a couple lurker's names out of a hat (I know, I don't like LALurkers, but I perceive an activity disparity between the players that's making the game drag). I have a neutral or no read on everybody else we don't mention right now.

this is lazy. Why only lurkers looking scummy? I want your input on Kai at this point and your views.

post 281 again lazy and now just following the biggest bw.

Okay so reading SC I found many flaws with him. (1) his vote on glork and then unvote. His case as I pointed out had nothing to do with Glork's comment with his question towards me. He has been mostly just going after SP this game and now switches to SB and frankly I don't like the vote he cast. I don't know if it's scum bussing or scum jumping on an easy wagon.
He has not said anything about anyone else and I still have that Kai's case in my head where he has points towards SC but voted SP instead. I could so see a connection with these two.


In short for all those reading:
I see Kai/SC scum pair
SB - nonresponsive, lack of anything informative scum
I see since my bv case the DGB took over and I'm not getting the case she has on SC or SB. If she thinks that SC is doing a late bus why jump on the SC wagon?
I would go for an SC lynch but DGB jump on that wagon leaves me more leary then SC's jump.

[Iecerint]

Uh. So why are you voting SB?

Also, given that you don't like that DGB chose to push the SC part of the wagon, why would that make you *less* suspicious of SB?

[farside22]

Uh. So why are you voting SB?

Also, given that you don't like that DGB chose to push the SC part of the wagon, why would that make you *less* suspicious of SB?

SB - nonresponsive, lack of anything informative

The more indepth post on SB is here

Why would someone I get a bad feel and see a weak case on make SB less suspicious?

[farside22]

Also, given that you don't like that DGB chose to push the SC part of the wagon, why would that make you *less* suspicious of SB?

I'm sorry for the double post but I never said I was less suspcious of SB. Where are you getting this from?
My vote is not on SC because of DGB's post was not stellar.