With nine players alive, five votes are required to lynch.
Deadline falls on Saturday June 5 at 17:14 UTC.
I did not evade the question, I answered as clearly as I could. Sorry if I still don't have any lead...ThatTumblweed wrote:@remouk
With all the questions and poking going around, you don't have any clues? I've been picking up vibes pretty well. Is this you just determined to stay as neutral as possible by evading the question?
I totally understand. Don't forget that I did give all my thoughts. The thing is, I still don't have anything to say about your behaviors. Maybe I need a little bit more time than you.Incognito wrote:remouk, it's usually just a good idea to just give your thoughts on situations. Let us know what you're thinking, etc. Once you do that, I'm sure the questions will just flow naturally. If you're town, we obviously need toa)figure out that you're town based on what you're posting andb)maybe notice things that youyourselfmay have noticed that maybe none of us have noticed. By keeping your thoughts bottled up, that doesn't help us at all if you're town, but I could see how it might help you if you're scum.
Yes I played my first game here, just like here I was town. I won and yeah, you can read that in the begining I didn't talk a lot (I didn't know what to say/ask), I observed and it was seen as lurking, they thought it was scummy so I had to explain myself and change my playstyle. I don't want that to happen again because it made the game tough for me, that's why I'm clearly saying that I still don't have any clue.Incognito wrote:Incidentally, remouk, based on your title of "Goon" I'm guessing you've played at least one other game on here. I haven't looked at the game but were you scum there or town? If you were town, did you have a difficult time figuring out what to say there too?
Alta wrote:@ThatTumbleweed
I don't think there is enough evidence to really go after remouk at this point. It just doesn't seem very weird to me for him to not be sure about anything. If he is Town then he wouldn't have any idea about who is scum and who isn't
Hypocritical, much?Mod wrote:remouk (1) - Alta
Earlder1 wrote:I didn't write Iguana in purple letters. Does that mean it's the mod?
Er, I assure you that my vote was not random. I have very good reason for switching my vote to you even though I didn't provide my reasoning, and I don't think I'd ever switch from one fairly arbitrary vote to yet another arbitrary vote like that anyway. If you thought my vote was random though, you really wouldn't feel the need to question me about it? That strikes me as a bit counterintuitive at this point.Post 55, Earlder1 wrote:Well, random voting is one thing, but calling me scum, is a bit more serious. That's why I decided to reply. I didn't even mention incog's vote because it's obvious his is just random. You calling me scum, however, I felt needed recourse.
What's suspicious about it?Post 59, Coach Travis wrote:Though I've never liked bandwagons in the RVS stage, so I'm also a bit suspicious of Incognito for even suggesting such a thing at this point.
He's also lost more games as town than he's won. Doesn't that mean he's better at being deceiving than being helpful to the town? You should take all things into consideration.LordChronos wrote:Given that Incog has won all of his 8 games as scum, doesn't that mean he is a good player. He has a 7/9 chance to be town, so why do you want to get rid of a good player who is likely to be town?
BrianJ wrote:By the way, I lost my first game as Mafia, so my win rate as a scum is 0%. If anyone wants to vote for me please consider that I am player who is likely to be town and fails at playing for scum side!
...Which then turns into a discussion about the reasoning for each player's perspective on the matter, which turns into something else. Yes, the topic itself is pointless, but the topics that get spawned from those topics usually end up being useful. Even RNG votes serve a point in the grande scheme of things. Though, personally, I prefer a heated RVS that turns to discussion quickly. Doesn't seem too RVS'y at the moment, which is nice.LordChronos wrote:If they do all of the time, and can provide game links to show this, I would say it is a null tell. I hate RNG votes though because they don't lead to any discussion beyond whether RNG usage is a scumtell.
We could throw around the names of all the players equally, but that would get us no where fast. I'm a fan of early game bandwagons to put pressure on someone, and see where that goes. This not only shows you how that player will apply to pressure, but how the other players will respond to the wagon, in general.Earlder wrote:I didn't wanna give you your second vote. I guess at this stage, it isn't entirely important, but I feel everyone should have their name thrown around in this stage. It is less helpful to try and generate conversation by voting randomly if not that many people are getting voted. With that thought, I prefered to vote for someone without a vote yet.
You think using Meta is silly, because not all players have it on this site? I don't think so, at all. If anything it's a good subject to discuss to get the game going. Also, when someone has played as many games that Incog has, you will eventually notice patterns that will give you a hint to how he plays on each side. While, it's not something I'd lynch for, it's something you should always consider.ThatTumbleweed wrote:Mostly because I don't have any past game experience of my own to rely on. The meta of this is unfamiliar to me and it feels like you're talking over my head.
Misrep an RVS vote, much?LordChronos wrote:Hypocritical, much?
You need to worry less about someone getting multiple votes, and more about the benefits from bandwagoning. If someone quick hammers out of the blue, you should thank the scum for being that blatant.Coach Travis wrote:You're vote seemed random, and you specifically said it was good to start a bandwagon. However, considering we're still in RVS with little actual evidence, to suggest putting multiple votes on one player, which could potentially put them in danger, just comes across as scummy. Also, if you have an actual reason to vote him but never give that reason, that just makes it worse.
Not necessarily.Post 68, Leech wrote:He's also lost more games as town than he's won. Doesn't that mean he's better at being deceiving than being helpful to the town? You should take all things into consideration.