Werewolf: Wisborg Asylum: GAME OVER, Innocents Win.

[Nightson]

I have never encountered the whole alliance thing before, anybody have a link to a good game with one in it? Preferably one that isn't so long I don't bother to read it.

[inHimshallibe]

I have never encountered the whole alliance thing before, anybody have a link to a good game with one in it? Preferably one that isn't so long I don't bother to read it.

Scum.

[Merkabah]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13266 is my experience with it. Spyre joined about page 40 or so IIRC so you can go from there if you'd like. Otherwise just read day 3.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... start=1725 is where it really starts getting fun. At that point, UncertainKitten is a known Jester; dramonic is an SK-JOAT; pomegranate and zoraster are both scummates. Animorph is an unlimited shot dayvig (who can keep shooting as long as he doesn't hit a vanilla townie)

OH SHIT. Just fucking hammer dram now; he knows Spyre does awesome as alliance leader.

[Fate]

As much as I love anti-town quickhammers, a bigl part of me wants Dram to claim a provable role so we can lynch Jack instead.

[Merkabah]

We know he's scum; why would he do shit to help us/give us something that we can prove?

[crypto]

I have never encountered the whole alliance thing before, anybody have a link to a good game with one in it? Preferably one that isn't so long I don't bother to read it.

Scum.

Whelp.

[crypto]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyGlZ3LbkgU

[ReaperCharlie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyGlZ3LbkgU

OMFG... I wanna laugh but... is it wrong? LOL

[Deer]

(RAWR OTHER HEAD)

Also: anybody that says that Spyre is scum after he formally announced the alliance is FULL O' SHIT.

Let's think about how scum win: out-survive the town, and any other scum factions.

Becoming the leader of a large block of votes, as scum, paints a huge target on his back due to the other scum team (since we know that there's werewolves and vampires and maybe something else due to the theme announcement thread post thing). That would make him dead and hurting his scum team's chances for what, one lynch, maybe two, depending on night actions? ANTI-SCUM

Also, Spyre has made an alliance in several games so far (I've {Amished} been in one of those). His meta has him always ONLY doing this as town. One game as scum is never worth enough to throw out a huge OBVIOUS town-tell for yourself, especially since you're going to be town two to three times more often than scum (given standard 25-33% scum distribution or so). To go back on it just once throws away more games than it'd even possibly win you (one).

Anybody who's said that Spyre is or could be scum (or FoS'd him) or whatever should also go on our death list since only scum is afraid of a large block of townies voting together. Town can help said block and win with us and there's no reason to buck against it like so many has.

@Spyre: This point is one of the major reasons that I would oppose Deer becoming part of the alliance and why I'll help with a dram lynch since he hasn't done shit and knows that the alliance helps way more than it hurts.

ALSO: Vote hopping to suspects is NOT a scumtell, dram. Better luck next time.

VP and I will be talking over our vote again (hopefully tonight). I'm fully in support of a dram lynch; as much as I don't like making more people claim. Since Chrono is in the alliance, SV would be the obvious choice otherwise but we'll get back to you soon-ish.

WIFOM...alliance, alliance, alliance...more WIFOM. Thinking Spyre is confirmed town is dangerous thinking.

I'm not against the alliance, but I'm against Merk.

[Merkabah]

WIFOM...alliance, alliance, alliance...more WIFOM. Thinking Spyre is confirmed town is dangerous thinking.

I'm not against the alliance, but I'm against Merk.

/slap

It is not dangerous thinking, it is cold, reasoned fact that Spyre is confirmed town. It does not help him as scum this game; nor in any potential future games. There is ZERO motivation for him to form an alliance.

Please, tell me why you're against me. Or elaborate why "Thinking Spyre is confirmed town is dangerous thinking." You want to explain your ill-conceived half-thoughts?

[Dry-fit]

Fate, you're alliance; we look after each other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exGJsv6ZNlo

[ReaperCharlie]

WIFOM...alliance, alliance, alliance...more WIFOM.

Haha!... yeah that's pretty much all that post was, huh? =x
I lol'd.


I'm not against the alliance either, FTR. Love the idea. I just don't trust Spyrex.
Though he *has* been acting more townie since I voted for him... Hmmmm...

*wifom-nuke goes off inside head*

[Merkabah]

/cry

Seriously, how the fuck can you justify any distrust towards Spyre? What non-town motivation does he have to suggest such a thing?

Mod: Can I have an atomic bomb so I can blow up half the player list?

[SpyreX]

While I, true, haven't pulled this stunt as scum YET its only because the bubbles have never meshed right for it to work since that great day when it sparked in my head. It'd be much harder to pull off as scum but it would be awesome.

However, this has nothing to do with the

fear

of me being "confirmed town" versus "looking for scum".

Deer is on the short list.

[Shattered Viewpoint]

Okay, I'm convinced.

unvote

Vote: Dramonic

[Fate]

You.

YOU MOTHERFUCKER.

[Fate]

FTR THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CAN PULL OFF HAMMERS BEFORE CLAIMS ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE UNDER NO SUSPICION OTHERWISE.

SOMEONE WHO WAS AT L-1 EARLIER AND STILL HAS A WAGON ON THEM CANNOT.

BULLET, SV'S HEAD.

MAKE A DATE.

[Deer]

If spyrex is scum, he leads this alliance to an endgame where you guys eventually have to figure out who to lynch among yourselves. You're so sure that he's town (because he has "no motivation for doing this") that you let him win in LyLo. How do you not see how that situation is dangerous? How do you not see that situation as a possibility?

[SpyreX]

I can't believe how wrong I was about SV he dies tomorrow if not sooner.

[Fate]

How do you not see that situation as a possibility?

Becoming the leader of a large block of votes, as scum, paints a huge target on his back due to the other scum team (since we know that there's werewolves and vampires and maybe something else due to the theme announcement thread post thing). That would make him dead and hurting his scum team's chances for what, one lynch, maybe two, depending on night actions? ANTI-SCUM

MOAR SV-Hate please.

[Nightson]

Well, Day 2 is going to be interesting.

[Chronopie]

Deal: SV lynchin tomorrow pl0x

[rajrhcpfreak]

WIFOM...alliance, alliance, alliance...more WIFOM.

Haha!... yeah that's pretty much all that post was, huh? =x
I lol'd.


I'm not against the alliance either, FTR. Love the idea. I just don't trust Spyrex.
Though he *has* been acting more townie since I voted for him... Hmmmm...

*wifom-nuke goes off inside head*

agree totally. as we have seen in survivor this past week. someone can openly be in control of an alliance and make it to the finals.
not to mention a real mafia godfather does this exactly.
as long as he can convince you that hes town then he can control the group and the town forever with out any resistance.

but thats why we dont elect a dictator to run the town. we vote every day. so an alliance is anti-town.

think of the town as a pure democracy. everyone gets to make their voice heard and everyone gets one voice. alliance is like introducing special interest groups and political parties, which is necessary in modern democratic republics but not in small democracies.

again

X

to alliances


[note to mod: i hope the use of the big bold red x is ok. i checked the rules and it said only red italics are yours. if its not ok then go ahead and edit it and let me know for future reference.]

[Knight of Cydonia]

The 24 inhabitants of the bunker gathered around dramonic. "You... boy. What manner of fiend are you? Speak up now, or forever hold your peac-" As the group interrogated the luckless soul, Shattered Viewpoint ran through the group, tackling dramonic and lifting him easily over his shoulder. Before the group could act, dramonic was hanging from the noose, and Shattered had taken up the sword and pistol. "DIEDIEDIE yay fighty fighty time, blood blood blood." Oddly, though, it was not Shattered, seemingly mad, who gibbered these words, but dramonic. He ceased twitching in the noose, and lifted clawed hands that the group could now see covered in stitches to his throat, cutting himself... no, itself free. The Creature lumbered forward, shaking off the skin of the poor unfortunate it had last fed on, revealing it's botched, half human, half mechanical mass. Shattered, however, held his nerve, and as the rest of the group ran forward to help him, he stepped forward, and - one two, one two, and through and through! - cut the Creature's metal chest plate apart, revealing the two hearts that pulsed in unholy matrimony beneath. Raising the silver-loaded revolver, he calmly put two rounds into the fiend's chest, one through each heart, adding another in the rough area of the crotch for good measure. The Creature the group had once called dramonic fell down dead, and as he did, the lights began to flicker and fade. The group ran for their rooms, as the simulated night fell in the bunker.

Dramonic,

The Creature

, has been lynched on Day 1.

Players with night actions of any kind have until 2pm on Saturday the 22nd of May to submit them.

[Knight of Cydonia]

As the lights flickered back on, the group awoke and began to look more closely at the bunker that was now their home - and found it was no bunker, but the entrance to a vast series of catacombs.
They had to presume that this was where Nightson and Chronopie had been dragged, because bloody trails led from both their rooms to these dark, forbidding halls. No clues had been left behind to show whether these were the deaths of innocents, or casualties of a battle between the dark forces of the Asylum.

Fate's body, however, was found - what was left of it. Pieces of it littered his room, his blood splashed in odd symbols across the floor and walls. His right leg was missing: poor innocent boy.

Chronopie, ???, and Nightson, ???, have been taken into the tunnels and slaughtered.

Fate,

Innocent

, has been brutally murdered and dismembered.

With 22 alive, 12 to lynch.