@Adumbro
Adum wrote:
No, we wouldn't, but you're missing the point, all the other stuff that you normally do with a vote (or threat thereof) in terms of scumhunting. How do we know that toDay isn't gonna extend till June, think of all the scumhunting that could be done... that you can't do now because you can't remove your vote.
Wrong, you can still scum hunt. You limiting your options is scummy.
Adum" wrote:
I agree, prana is probably scum, but your action was stupid and anti-town from the theory side regardless of who actually is scum, and honestly, trying to defend it makes it look scummier.
Wrong, unless you believe both of us are scum and are on opposing factions. Part of this attack defends Prana. You sir are failling to connect the dots.
Adum wrote:
Dunno about that, as we're illustrating, doom counter is easy to game, the mod probably balanced it with that in mind
We don't even know if it's gone after a lynch (aka a battle). Unless you specifically know about the doom counter mechanic and/or it's counter (which makes you scum) it is balanced as a normal kill function.
@Prana
Prana wrote:
The "your vote is stuck" comment means "If you vote again you WILL, 100%, kill Devotress".
Why do we know this? Go and look at the previous Doom counter (yes, go research it, honestly, the game isn't about to run off into the distance if you actually do some pissing research before blundering in stupidly). I voted, I then unvoted and voted someone else specifically to get the counter to zero thinking it would be me that died, it counted as a vote.
Hence the point. You have just stated, point blank that killing Devotress would benefit town. (Although somehow stated that it doesn't if she is town... but we have no knowledge either way, just the fact that she seems town, if she seemed scummy I would have no problem ignoring the Doom counter, but she doesn't, and pretty much everyone else is in agreement here or they would be FoS'ing her).
No I thought he meant it was literally stuck. ><ll. Hence my Confusion. I played a pokemone game where a
death clock meant sticky votes.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12130
Dev dying is moot. If Devotress is scum, then yes. If Devotress is town, then we die, and our votes are free to lynch who ever. Either way I'd say Vote if you are certain, FoS/HoS as normally. I already said the system was good. Hello? Read again?
Prada wrote:
Your claim that we should be voting and putting pressure on... what part of "when a FoS gets to a majority, we will all pile the votes on" do you keep ignoring? Nobody is ignoring people, nobody is scared of the Doom counter, everybody (well, the majority) are wanting to play it safe. That's the most logical and pro-town play to do, you are blatantly ignoring all of this and just saying that it doesn't matter to town if Devotress dies. When it matters a whole lot if she dies and flips town.
Yes, which I did, before everyone yelled about the doom counter. If I wanted to I would be voting again.
Prada wrote:
I admit, some people could be faking it, but the only people who have no need to care, would be scum.
There we go, we have the ding ding ding stance on me.
@Glork
Glork wrote:The other snag is the fact that if Tiamat thundered and Kraken drowned, that'd be two kills coming from the same scumgroup, which I still think is extremely unlikely.
No, I'm content to believe that BV's group has Tiamat doing electrocution kills, and Kraken blinding. Not sure what Lich is up to, though.
Just because we have the fire fiend flip, doesn't mean we have all the fiends. I would be concerned with ~5 scum left.
Also your analysis bugs me. The hell out of me. except for the fact that yellow scum didn't night kill and doom at the same time. This piece is missing. If a Red Scum Flips I'm saying this theory is shot. From my Perspective.
Electrocute is made by 1 scum player which worked.
The Nothingness -> No kill -> Drown is scum faction 2 with players missing and a kill failed or on this second night scum sacraficed their kill for an action.
Doom -> Remaining Scum
But I see the loafs of bread and will drop it for now. Finally Glork, your reasoning to vote me is pretty pathetic. VI and Scummy are opposite in the spectrum, where one is town and the other is scum.
You are just calling me town or scum, with the above average chance to be scum. Words man, mean nothing.
@Chrono
What bugs me about this analysis, this claim reads as if Anti was role blocked.
Chronopie wrote:Here's the actual quote:
Antifinity wrote:I got some weird flavor last night. A big brown cloaked man shot musical notes out of his mouth at my ears. My guess from the description is that it might be a Tonberry, as many comments are made about how it might not be human. I wasn't told what effect, if any, that the singing(?) actually had.
However, Anti wasn't told specifically that they did nothing. Unless it's an omission on Anti's part. Which I doubt, seeing as they weren't told what effect it had.
But Anti didn't claim role block did he? Or what the music does.
@Adum
Adum wrote:Yes we CAN confirm, but the fact that we've got a scum faction using it makes it less likely to correct, and now your vote is stuck unless we wanna kill dev.
Hell yea, we should consider it, but because of the pattern, most likely it's a scum faction's kills, so the doomed person is less likely anyway.
So why would you do it, why why why?
Now this person reads as a frustrated newb townie, or someone mad about their partner.. In anycase,
Wait a minute:
Adum wrote:Beyond that, we're still very suspicious of Anti, since Dev is most likely town, we might wanna forgo killing him today and having him as the kill tomorrow. That begs the question,
ARE WE THAT SUSPICIOUS OF ANTI? A townie for scum is generally a more then fair exchange, but with two obvious scum factions (with a reasonable possibility that they're both fully fledged as opposed to one just being a SK) it's worth considering.
What did you mean about this question? Are you Defending Him or asking everyone to reevaluate their case on Anti?
Secondly, we should focus on lynching scum, regardless of the numbers. We won't get anywhere if you just question the number of factions, number of players, etc. You just want to lynch them. If Devotress dies, the goal is still the same.
@Devotress
Your posts are lack luster in everything. For someone who's close to dying I expected much more panic or if you just gave up. Anyways, this lack of enthusasim is why the game stalled.
@Dram
I'm bothered by your lack of intrest on the case against me.
@Self
Note to self. Inspect Glork.
Note to self. The players are focused on finding which roles are in the game, but they aren't pinning these roles onto people. This is quite sad.
K back to work for now i'm at 1058 in recent responses. Dram bothers the heck out of me with his indiffrence. Devo clearly doesn't care anymore. Adum is reading as panicy, but he echos Prada.
People who are lurking. Bill and JS. Bill posted a quick question but I have a feeling that Bill is just lurking for the heck of it. That question reads as someone who just skimmed over the recent pages, and that's scummy.
