In relation to (my) 8, Yabba never made this post?yabbaguy wrote:. I'm uncertain about what Empking is griping about over his RV anyway, but I notice posts are being made whilst I type this.
While I don't exactly have you pegged as "likely Town" right now, I think I've made it quite clear how I feel about Jag, and my vote remains on him for now.Empking wrote: Everyone (other than RS): Summiest player out of me or Jag?
While the thought of this being hypocritical did actually cross my mind as I was previewing, I believe there is a distinction. Even a precise, forceful accusation or comment could be said to "feel forced". "Forced" is an issue of tone and appearances. I am concerned in this case with substance and motive. More importantly I backed up my accusation with follow up inquiry, the lack of which was one of my biggest concerns in this matter.VibeBox wrote: The observation "XXX felt forced" is a weak, vague comment that tends to make me uncomfortable.
Do you have any other reason to feel that yabbaguy is scum, or is that your only reason for voting him at this point?
As in the act of trying to get everyone to wagon Jag, thus ending discussion and cutting the day short, is random. Not that you suggest that a random person is voted.Empking wrote:I'm voting Jag. How is wanting to wagon Jag random?
VibeBox, RealityFan, yabbaguy. The majority of your posts have been either defensive, pointing fingers over minor things and rather not actually trying to figure out who is scum. You seem to be thinking that everybody in the game is scum, instead of everybody having the possibility of being scum.Empking wrote:Which players have contributed more than me?
Post 8, 9, 10, 12, 17. About 23% of your posts.Empking wrote:What posts did I defend myself in?
As in, you've been accusing people over fairly minor and trivial things (eg: a non-serious vote in RVS, changing votes in RVS to prevent possible bandwagons, saying only scum think too much about the game, not voting and not wagoning somebody) which don't seem to be that worthy of note. However, you have help generate discussion from the reactions of people from these accusations, so their not entirely useless.Empking wrote:What's "throwing suspicions around"?
What discussion was going on when I made that post? (So what discussion would I have cut short.) How does a wagon automatically lead to cutting the day short?Red Star wrote:As in the act of trying to get everyone to wagon Jag, thus ending discussion and cutting the day short, is random. Not that you suggest that a random person is voted.Empking wrote:I'm voting Jag. How is wanting to wagon Jag random?
So a minority of players? So if a majority of players (including yourself) have contributed less than me, it seems weird that I'm the persons who's too few contributions are voteworthy.VibeBox, RealityFan, yabbaguy.Empking wrote:Which players have contributed more than me?
The majority of your posts have been either defensive, pointing fingers over minor things and rather not actually trying to figure out who is scum.
What players have I expressed suspicion of?You seem to be thinking that everybody in the game is scum, instead of everybody having the possibility of being scum.
So 23% of posts having some degree of defense is overdefensive?Post 8, 9, 10, 12, 17. About 23% of your posts.Empking wrote:What posts did I defend myself in?
Quotes for all of those please.As in, you've been accusing people over fairly minor and trivial things (eg: a non-serious vote in RVS, changing votes in RVS to prevent possible bandwagons, saying only scum think too much about the game, not voting and not wagoning somebody) which don't seem to be that worthy of note. However, you have help generate discussion from the reactions of people from these accusations, so their not entirely useless.Empking wrote:What's "throwing suspicions around"?
It's not abrupt or hopping. Empking wanted everyone to answer his question, and that's what I did. And I didn't vote Jag Johan.yabbaguy wrote:Chevre hopping on Jag is abrupt IIRC- I'd like to know why.
Odd that his only contribution to the game, questioning your self-labeled "pressure vote" in (2) & (4), is not even mentioned.Red Star wrote: Chevre
0- Fluff
1- RV Cuetlachti
2:3- Fluff
4- Asks where Empking has gone
5- Doesn't like case against Thief
In (6), your "pressure vote" is again questioned, and you label fluff.Red Star wrote:Deer
6- Fluff
(8): I was questioning it actually. We had just had an exchange about it. The post does strike me as odd and defensive, but it wasn't as out of the blue as you imply.Red Star wrote:Empking
8- Tries to defend something no-one was questioning
I like answering questions like this
notice the latter fencesits a bit.Red stars question could be a scummy thing to make an impression of doing good for the town. But probably Red just wanted us to get started talking. The info from the questions are not that useful.
And a baseless suspicion:Empking: Why are you attacking people for tiny stuff, why do you think it so important? And why didn't you defend yourself against my accusation?
all are telling me this wagon is the way to go.Second suspect is Yabba.
